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  1. Intriguing Alias's Avatar
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by Chow mein)
    Bit stuck on whether to go for a GTX 570 or an HD 7850..

    Although I do need to be careful as when I started planning this build I was going to get a 6850 but I can't stop extending my budget!
    7850 every time! Uses a lot less power and runs at a much lower temperature so leaves masses of headroom for overclocking if necessary. And I'm not an AMD fanboy, I've got a Nvidia for my latest build
    Last edited by Intriguing Alias; 02-06-2012 at 22:39.
  2. woofwoofkapow's Avatar
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    Which 6850 in particular would you suggest? im having difficulty telling the different between the 6 ive filtered out.

    Also, ' I would disagree, the higher end of Nvidia does outperform quite of AMD's high end stuff, but the AMD does have many advantages in it's graphics' I dont quite understand what you mean here.
  3. SMed's Avatar
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by woofwoofkapow)
    Which 6850 in particular would you suggest? im having difficulty telling the different between the 6 ive filtered out.
    The best 6850 is probably the Asus one. Overclocks as well as any, but is pretty quiet.
  4. Intriguing Alias's Avatar
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by woofwoofkapow)
    Which 6850 in particular would you suggest? im having difficulty telling the different between the 6 ive filtered out.

    Also, ' I would disagree, the higher end of Nvidia does outperform quite of AMD's high end stuff, but the AMD does have many advantages in it's graphics' I dont quite understand what you mean here.
    If you're spending £250-300+ on a graphics card, go Nvidia (though their cheapest desktop card of this generation so far is a 670 at £310 - the 7870 is still currently unchallenged price-wise). If you're spending less, go AMD.

    As for which brand 6850 to go. It really depends on the price. I'd aim for Gigabyte, EVGA or MSI for their returns support. The ASUS DirectCU is supposedly a little cooler and quieter but I hear their RMA is horrendous.
    Last edited by Intriguing Alias; 02-06-2012 at 22:48.
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by Chow mein)
    Bit stuck on whether to go for a GTX 570 or an HD 7850..

    Although I do need to be careful as when I started planning this build I was going to get a 6850 but I can't stop extending my budget!
    Hassi has a point about the 7850, also it's quite cheap for meaning new and they are fixing up the little issues it has, so isn't performing optimally so performance should increase in it's current state a bit without overclocking.
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by woofwoofkapow)
    Which 6850 in particular would you suggest? im having difficulty telling the different between the 6 ive filtered out.

    Also, ' I would disagree, the higher end of Nvidia does outperform quite of AMD's high end stuff, but the AMD does have many advantages in it's graphics' I dont quite understand what you mean here.
    The brands I would look at for the 6850 are MSI, Sapphire and XFX.
    Asus is pretty good, it's supposed to be cooler with it's specific cooling.
    Tell us what you find, because anything around £120 then your hitting 6870 terrority.

    AMD have their advantages and Nvidia have theirs.
    AMD gives vale for money performance such as the 6850 which gives amazing results despite it's low price compared to Nvidia. But Nvidia overall gives better performance at a higher cost, like it's top end graphics card that cost a lot.
  7. SMed's Avatar
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    You can get MSI 6850 for £84: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-163-MS

    I get free delivery from them too.
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    Found this; MSI R6850-PM2D1GD5/OC for £84 as SMed said

    the next one up is Asus EAH6850 DC/2DIS/1GD5/V2 for £112

    Is there going tobe any difference between the two, theres a pretty drastic price difference.
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    Getting together components for a new desktop, just posting here to get a second opinion

    *Windows 7 - 64 Bit

    *Tower: Cooler Master HAF 922

    *Processor: Intel Core i7-2600k Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz

    *Heatsink: Noctua NH-D14

    *Ram: G.SKILL 16GB Ripjaws X Series Dual Channel

    *Graphics Card: Nvidia Geforce GTX 560Ti

    *Mother Board: ASRock Z68 Extreme4

    *Power Supply: Corsair TX750 V2

    *Storage Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB

    *Boot Drive: OCZ Vertex 3 SSD 120GB

    Anything anyone would change?
  10. Intriguing Alias's Avatar
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by SMed)
    You can get MSI 6850 for £84: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-163-MS

    I get free delivery from them too.
    Is it 250 posts and 3 months to get free delivery?

    (Original post by woofwoofkapow)
    Found this; MSI R6850-PM2D1GD5/OC for £84 as SMed said

    the next one up is Asus EAH6850 DC/2DIS/1GD5/V2 for £112

    Is there going tobe any difference between the two, theres a pretty drastic price difference.
    The difference is minute for that difference in price. And MSI has the better warranty support by far.
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    (Original post by CustardCreams)
    Getting together components for a new desktop, just posting here to get a second opinion

    *Windows 7 - 64 Bit

    *Tower: Cooler Master HAF 922

    *Processor: Intel Core i7-2600k Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz

    *Heatsink: Noctua NH-D14

    *Ram: G.SKILL 16GB Ripjaws X Series Dual Channel

    *Graphics Card: Nvidia Geforce GTX 560Ti

    *Mother Board: ASRock Z68 Extreme4

    *Power Supply: Corsair TX750 V2

    *Storage Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB

    *Boot Drive: OCZ Vertex 3 SSD 120GB

    Anything anyone would change?
    Would help if you told us what price you're getting each of these components for - because there's no use suggesting something that is way out of price range in comparison.

    But I would change that Vertex 3 for certain. Get either a Crucial M4, Samsung 830 or a SanDisk Extreme (preferably one of the first two, though).
  12. SMed's Avatar
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by woofwoofkapow)
    Found this; MSI R6850-PM2D1GD5/OC for £84 as SMed said

    the next one up is Asus EAH6850 DC/2DIS/1GD5/V2 for £112

    Is there going tobe any difference between the two, theres a pretty drastic price difference.
    It's just that the Asus isn't on offer right now, so it's at inflated prices. I got the same Asus 6850 for £90 3 months ago.

    I'm not really sure about warranty differences, my first Asus arrived DOA and it was promptly replaced with a new one 2 days later. But that was by OcUK, not Asus.
  13. Intriguing Alias's Avatar
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    Regarding warranties:

    https://forums.ebuyer.com/showthread...lly-are-*Look*


    I may be more bothered from it than most since I was going for a top end card and didn't want to see all that money go down the drain in a year or two's time. But even digressing from money - I'd like to be able to get a replacement within a few days instead of losing hundreds of pounds of functionality for several weeks.
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by hassi94)
    If you're spending £250-300+ on a graphics card, go Nvidia (though their cheapest desktop card of this generation so far is a 670 at £310 - the 7870 is still currently unchallenged price-wise). If you're spending less, go AMD.

    As for which brand 6850 to go. It really depends on the price. I'd aim for Gigabyte, EVGA or MSI for their returns support. The ASUS DirectCU is supposedly a little cooler and quieter but I hear their RMA is horrendous.
    6850 is around £110 now i got a 7770 for £20 more.He should try going onto one of those.
    Last edited by Rainingshame; 03-06-2012 at 11:09.
  15. SMed's Avatar
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by Rainingshame)
    685 is around £110 now i got a 7770 for £20 more.He should try going onto one of those.
    6850? Those regularly dip below £90. There's an MSI 6850 for £84 right now.
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by hassi94)
    Regarding warranties:

    https://forums.ebuyer.com/showthread...lly-are-*Look*


    I may be more bothered from it than most since I was going for a top end card and didn't want to see all that money go down the drain in a year or two's time. But even digressing from money - I'd like to be able to get a replacement within a few days instead of losing hundreds of pounds of functionality for several weeks.
    Good to know that in the next three years it'll only take two days
  17. Rainingshame's Avatar
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by SMed)
    6850? Those regularly dip below £90. There's an MSI 6850 for £84 right now.
    I only buy from stores. I don't have access to a card. In stores it's ~110.
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by CustardCreams)
    Getting together components for a new desktop, just posting here to get a second opinion

    *Windows 7 - 64 Bit

    *Tower: Cooler Master HAF 922

    *Processor: Intel Core i7-2600k Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz

    *Heatsink: Noctua NH-D14

    *Ram: G.SKILL 16GB Ripjaws X Series Dual Channel

    *Graphics Card: Nvidia Geforce GTX 560Ti

    *Mother Board: ASRock Z68 Extreme4

    *Power Supply: Corsair TX750 V2

    *Storage Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB

    *Boot Drive: OCZ Vertex 3 SSD 120GB

    Anything anyone would change?
    Don't go for the OCZ. Their reputation for SSDs isn't nearly as good as the other brands out there. If you're just going to use it as a boot drive, you can go for something a bit smaller (Samsung's 64GB is going ~£50 at a few places), but if you're going to put frequently used applications on there too that's fine!

    Here's an SSD of the size you're going for that I recommend. Can't go wrong with Crucial. Make sure you use the voucher code too! hotukdeals is great for SSD deals.
  19. SMed's Avatar
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by Rainingshame)
    I only buy from stores. I don't have access to a card. In stores it's ~110.
    That is unfortunate for you. Why are you subjecting yourself to such hardships? Do what my other idiot friends do and give cash to someone with a card and ask them to order it.

    Or if you're in Staffordshire you can go to Overclockers and pick up the MSI 6850 for £84 with cash in hand.
  20. Intriguing Alias's Avatar
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    Re: Before buying PC please ask our advice first!
    (Original post by Rainingshame)
    I only buy from stores. I don't have access to a card. In stores it's ~110.
    Get a debit card? Amazingly easy to get one nowadays.
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