[Iqbal007]

(Original post by Aristotle's' Disciple)
Awesome, thanks for that.

i'll try to give u links in another 10 hours as im fasting

[Aristotle's' Disciple]

(Original post by Iqbal007)
i'll try to give u links in another 10 hours as im fasting

Ah right, so am I. No worries! Take your time

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(Original post by Iqbal007)
as far as I know Lenovo are a very reliable laptop maker, not sure about desktop, but should be pretty reliable....did u like the Asus? or the pcspecialist one for £315 which can be modified for more things?

I'll keep that in mind about Lenovo! Is Asus a good brand?

I actually really like the £315 you showed me (http://www.dinopc.com/shop/pc/-b-NEW...20-95p1419.htm) I mean it pretty much has all the same specifications and is a lot cheaper! I can easily take out the graphics card from my old computer and put it in this one.

Thanks a lot!

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by Pop_tart)
I'll keep that in mind about Lenovo! Is Asus a good brand?

I actually really like the £315 you showed me (http://www.dinopc.com/shop/pc/-b-NEW...20-95p1419.htm) I mean it pretty much has all the same specifications and is a lot cheaper! I can easily take out the graphics card from my old computer and put it in this one.

Thanks a lot!

that is a lot cheaper, so you can add on a few extra things like extra ram, storage, power supply, better case,etc.

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by Aristotle's' Disciple)
Ah right, so am I. No worries! Take your time

cpu:http://www.ebuyer.com/349029-intel-c...bx80637i53570k £177.44
motherboard: http://www.ebuyer.com/351598-gigabyt...ard-ga-z77-d3h £77.98
ram: low profile http://www.ebuyer.com/274036-corsair...8gx3m2a1600c9b £38.87
case:http://www.ebuyer.com/276229-coolerm...e-rc-335u-kkn1 £32.87
power supply: http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair...JSQ.html?src=2 £49.99
hard drive: http://www.dabs.com/products/seagate...52780000&src=3 £63.58
optical drive:http://www.ebuyer.com/176026-liteon-...oem-ihas124-19 £14.14
graphics: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-m...layport-2x-dvi £113.99, this is probably the weaker version msi make of the 6870

around £568 without OS............ for £50 more you can get a 6950

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(Original post by Iqbal007)
that is a lot cheaper, so you can add on a few extra things like extra ram, storage, power supply, better case,etc.

Definitely! Now I have never build a computer before and I am really wondering what it is with getting a different power supply - what would be the advantage of buying a better power supply? Does it have to do with overheating? I assume PSU has to do with power supply?

Also when increasing ram, the next 'upgrade' I can pick is 8GB (2x 4GB) is there any point in getting twice as much on such a computer?

I don't know if you know this but is it possible to rip out the 'internal card reader' from my old one and put it in the new one as long as the case has a floppy drive bay?

I think that is all I think for now

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by Pop_tart)
Definitely! Now I have never build a computer before and I am really wondering what it is with getting a different power supply - what would be the advantage of buying a better power supply? Does it have to do with overheating? I assume PSU has to do with power supply?

Also when increasing ram, the next 'upgrade' I can pick is 8GB (2x 4GB) is there any point in getting twice as much on such a computer?

I don't know if you know this but is it possible to rip out the 'internal card reader' from my old one and put it in the new one as long as the case has a floppy drive bay?

I think that is all I think for now

Going to DinoPC, isn't building a pc at all to be honest, they assemble it for you, building is when you get the parts yourself and than assemble at home. A better supply would mean a 80plus certified power supply, the more wattage means the better expansion options you have for the future. The standard 500watt isn't certified on the base specs of your one.

Well it depends on your usage, if it's basic than it's fine,more than enough, proper gaming would need more and the 1600MHz one.

Well technically yes, it should come out fine, remember to unwire it from the motherboard and push it out through the front.
There called optical drive bays, they take any sort of things like that.

[Cupid Stunt]

Could someone list the components for a dream £600-800 PC that can handle new games?

I'm honestly, stuck, I would actually pay someone to help me because I still have no clue apart from that one processor...

I'll probably use overclockers since they offer finance options.

EDIT: Registered on the overclockers forum, screw you noobs.

[DannyR2811]

(Original post by Cupid Stunt)
Could someone list the components for a dream £600-800 PC that can handle new games?

I'm honestly, stuck, I would actually pay someone to help me because I still have no clue apart from that one processor...

I'll probably use overclockers since they offer finance options.

EDIT: Registered on the overclockers forum, screw you noobs.

If you don't have a clue then http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=FS-213-OE looks ok.

If you want parts, I'd say..

CPU : http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CP-404-IN
Motherboard: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=5&subcat=2261
RAM: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MY-311-CS (out of stock atm)
PSU: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...23&subcat=1084
Case: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...d=1850&subcat=
SSD: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HD-071-OC
HDD: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HD-085-HI
GFX: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-155-GW

Around 720, giving £80 to change a few things if needed.

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by Cupid Stunt)
Could someone list the components for a dream £600-800 PC that can handle new games?

I'm honestly, stuck, I would actually pay someone to help me because I still have no clue apart from that one processor...

I'll probably use overclockers since they offer finance options.

EDIT: Registered on the overclockers forum, screw you noobs.

other guys one is decent apart a few things, such as the prices which are extremely high.

Have a look back for the one I made for someone else.

That should be similar for your build,just get a nicer case and switch the SSD for a better make like crucial m4 if you want it.
Graphics card wise for around £170 you can get a 7850 or 6950.

Also his power supply given is pointless, you'll be fine with a 650 modular one from Corsair which is much cheaper.

[DannyR2811]

He wants to use OC, so its going to be more, IMO I think the Shinobi is a nice case, I had to move my mates rig into one as he got it and the cable management was fine to do.

[Aristotle's' Disciple]

(Original post by Iqbal007)
cpu:http://www.ebuyer.com/349029-intel-c...bx80637i53570k £177.44
motherboard: http://www.ebuyer.com/351598-gigabyt...ard-ga-z77-d3h £77.98
ram: low profile http://www.ebuyer.com/274036-corsair...8gx3m2a1600c9b £38.87
case:http://www.ebuyer.com/276229-coolerm...e-rc-335u-kkn1 £32.87
power supply: http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair...JSQ.html?src=2 £49.99
hard drive: http://www.dabs.com/products/seagate...52780000&src=3 £63.58
optical drive:http://www.ebuyer.com/176026-liteon-...oem-ihas124-19 £14.14
graphics: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-m...layport-2x-dvi £113.99, this is probably the weaker version msi make of the 6870

around £568 without OS............ for £50 more you can get a 6950

Discussing it with a friend he says the i5-3570k is the same as the Core i5-2400 which is £30 assuming I don't overclock, should I overclock? Apparently I'll need more money to add cooling and stuff.

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by Aristotle's' Disciple)
Discussing it with a friend he says the i5-3570k is the same as the Core i5-2400 which is £30 assuming I don't overclock, should I overclock? Apparently I'll need more money to add cooling and stuff.

i5-2400 cannot be overclocked at all, in comparison, their is a difference, the current best 3rd gen i5 is about 10% better than the 2nd gen best i5.
Overclocking should be done when you have an effective aftermarket cooler, able to overclock, but you should only think about that when the processor begins to struggle unwise you wouldn't want to void the warranty.
You need a bit more money, about £25 for a decent one, but that I would save for the future when your processor struggles.

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by DannyR2811)
He wants to use OC, so its going to be more, IMO I think the Shinobi is a nice case, I had to move my mates rig into one as he got it and the cable management was fine to do.

well there is some cheaper options

[Aristotle's' Disciple]

(Original post by Iqbal007)
i5-2400 cannot be overclocked at all, in comparison, their is a difference, the current best 3rd gen i5 is about 10% better than the 2nd gen best i5.
Overclocking should be done when you have an effective aftermarket cooler, able to overclock, but you should only think about that when the processor begins to struggle unwise you wouldn't want to void the warranty.
You need a bit more money, about £25 for a decent one, but that I would save for the future when your processor struggles.

What about in comparison to the i5-3450? That's the one I meant to say, sorry!

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by Aristotle's' Disciple)
What about in comparison to the i5-3450? That's the one I meant to say, sorry!

clock speed is lower, so is turbo boost and unable to overclock.

[Aristotle's' Disciple]

(Original post by Iqbal007)
clock speed is lower, so is turbo boost and unable to overclock.

I read somewhere that the best way to future proof a PC is to make sure the motherboard and PSU are excellent, what do you think?

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by Aristotle's' Disciple)
I read somewhere that the best way to future proof a PC is to make sure the motherboard and PSU are excellent, what do you think?

Well PSU, definitely, motherboards a bit harder as they might change the cpu requirement, as in the pins.

Having 150+ watt spare capacity allows future expansions, especially sli/crossfire, or extra fans, hard drives, optical drives, etc.

Motherboard does matters but you got to make sure you know that future cpu's will be compatible as they will change.
The important thing about motherboards is the number of sata ports it has, usb ports 2.0 and 3.0..........and having more than 1 pcie express port. Mine has 4, but technically only 3 are useable, got 8 sata ports, few other pci ports, 650 watt psu, so I can go crossfire or go into heavy expanding on my board. Have 1 spare 4 pin left for another fan.

Were you looking at d3h motherboard as it supports dual graphics which is good.

[Aristotle's' Disciple]

(Original post by Iqbal007)
Well PSU, definitely, motherboards a bit harder as they might change the cpu requirement, as in the pins.

Having 150+ watt spare capacity allows future expansions, especially sli/crossfire, or extra fans, hard drives, optical drives, etc.

Motherboard does matters but you got to make sure you know that future cpu's will be compatible as they will change.
The important thing about motherboards is the number of sata ports it has, usb ports 2.0 and 3.0..........and having more than 1 pcie express port. Mine has 4, but technically only 3 are useable, got 8 sata ports, few other pci ports, 650 watt psu, so I can go crossfire or go into heavy expanding on my board. Have 1 spare 4 pin left for another fan.

Were you looking at d3h motherboard as it supports dual graphics which is good.

Ah, right, and I dunno reading up on that tbh, I have no idea what motherboard to get, other than the one you've shown me. Is there any real point in future proofing, how long is the life of a PSU and a motherboard respectively?

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by Aristotle's' Disciple)
Ah, right, and I dunno reading up on that tbh, I have no idea what motherboard to get, other than the one you've shown me. Is there any real point in future proofing, how long is the life of a PSU and a motherboard respectively?

There is to an extent yes, especially if your computer struggles a few years down the line for graphics, always the option to make a dual set up and will be cheaper by than.
Well I wouldn't be too sure on motherboard, mine is AM3+ for AMD, which can take AM2, AM3,AM3+ cpu's, and will take the next gen AMD ones.
The Z77 currently takes the 2nd gen and 3rd gen i's, not sure about 1st gen.......you got look up on what Intel are planning.

PSU can last as long as they can until their dead or you used up the max wattage.