[ukstudent1989]

Dear Lord Browne

I started university in Feb 2010. I will graduate in early 2013.

Will the new tuition fees affect me?
Will I have to pay graduation tax if i graduate in 2013 even no i started in 2010?

And if 2010 students don't get the increase this year but 2011 students do, will 2010 students have to pay the new price for the years 2011/2012/2013 etc, or will they only stick to paying the current price (£3,290) + inflation for the rest of their studies?

[Lord Browne]

Thanks for your questions - this is a common concern.

Our proposals will not affect the tuition fees that you pay.

[Aj12]

Hmm I have deffered entry for 2011 will they affect me

[SmileyGurl13]

(Original post by Lord Browne)
Thanks for your questions - this is a common concern.

Our proposals will not affect the tuition fees that you pay.

I'm applying for university at the moment, hoping to start in September 2011. Will your proposals affect the tutition fees I have to pay?

[Wezzler]

(Original post by SmileyGurl13)
I'm applying for university at the moment, hoping to start in September 2011. Will your proposals affect the tutition fees I have to pay?

no they wont, earliest year that will be affected is 2012, so i better well get my grades for uni this year.

[speedbird]

(Original post by Wezzler)
no they wont, earliest year that will be affected is 2012, so i better well get my grades for uni this year.

But if I start uni in 2011 and the fees are due to increase in 2012, will I retain my old fee status?

[Wezzler]

(Original post by speedbird)
But if I start uni in 2011 and the fees are due to increase in 2012, will I retain my old fee status?

Yes.

[SuperPatchKid]

I was talking about this with friends and it came up that this will make it harder to get into university this year (marginally) as everyone previously taking gap years will now not bother therefore more applicants in this cycle. Valid theory?

[Delaney]

(Original post by Wezzler)
no they wont, earliest year that will be affected is 2012, so i better well get my grades for uni this year.

What about if I've applied this year but chose to defer entry? Would this effect me since I start in 2012 although I applied in 2010?

[Ally451]

I have applied for deferred entry to medicine to start in 2012. Will the changes effect me? If so I think this is unfair.

[Wezzler]

(Original post by Ally451)
I have applied for deferred entry to medicine to start in 2012. Will the changes effect me? If so I think this is unfair.

yes i think it will probably effect you although i'm not completely sure.

[Wookie42]

(Original post by Wezzler)
no they wont, earliest year that will be affected is 2012, so i better well get my grades for uni this year.

Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source for this? I am not at all disagreeing, just can't find any information on this anywhere and I'm applying for 2011 entry

[Wezzler]

(Original post by Lord Browne)
Thanks for your questions - this is a common concern.

Our proposals will not affect the tuition fees that you pay.

he clearly says the proposals won't affect us, the fee introduced in 2011 i the fee we play each year for 3 years and i dont think it changes.

[pippit]

If we started in September 2010 does this also apply, even if we have student finance? (OP started FEB 2010 so I was just wondering)

[Samtooth]

(Original post by Ally451)
Will the changes effect me? If so I think this is unfair.

You're right, the recent changes in legislation are only unfair if they affect you.

[Ally451]

It's just that if you apply at a time when the fees are low then thats what you're buying into. Your fees should be frozen so to speak

[bownessie]

To be fair, though, if you did apply to defer, what his review was likely to say wasn't exactly secret. It was known that fees were going to go a lot higher and that it was possible (particularly for medicine, vet etc.) that it could become incredibly high. However, on the other hand, I agree it is unfair as you applied prior to the publication of the review and I can't see it affecting you as the governments actual policy will be delayed anyway.

[notanumber]

With thanks to Little Jules for clarifying this in another post. This was taken from discussion in Parliament clarifying fee increases for all (including deferred students) in 2012.

If you go in 2011, the current system applies throughout the course. If you go in 2012, the new system applies.

"3 Nov 2010 : Column 942
Mr Willetts: The hon. Gentleman makes a very important point. These are proposals for the future, which come in for 2012. They are not retrospective changes, and for current graduates the existing regime will not be changed. This is only for the future from 2012 onwards. I am grateful for this opportunity to make that clear.

Nic Dakin (Scunthorpe) (Lab): My question rather follows on from that point. Young people who are in their final year of a level 3 course-say, doing A-levels-might choose to take a gap year next year and therefore apply to UCAS through deferred entry for a 2012 start. Will they be affected by these changes, or will they go to university under the current rules?

Mr Willetts: All students going to university in 2012 will do so under the regime that I have proposed to the House. Some young people-this is a very important practical point-may already have applied for deferred entry as part of not going to university in 2011-12. Admissions procedures are the responsibility of individual universities, but we hope that universities and UCAS, working together, will open a window to enable those young people, if they wish, to have the opportunity of going to university in 2011."

[sav91]

But how can we be sure that these proposals won't affect 2011 starters? Maybe the people who started this year won't be affected because they will only have one year of their degree left when the proposals come into effect so there's not much point in changing their fee status. However 2011 starters will have two years of their degree left when the proposals come into power so what's to stop the government from charging us the new fees in our second and final years?

[Little Jules]

(Original post by sav91)
But how can we be sure that these proposals won't affect 2011 starters? Maybe the people who started this year won't be affected because they will only have one year of their degree left when the proposals come into effect so there's not much point in changing their fee status. However 2011 starters will have two years of their degree left when the proposals come into power so what's to stop the government from charging us the new fees in our second and final years?

As notanumber has quoted me saying in the post above, and as stated here on the Dept of Business website, and as Lord Browne said, this will affect those starting university in 2012. It wont affect those already there, however long they've been there.