Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?

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  1. MrsRoxyK's Avatar
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    Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    Pretty much everywhere in Europe, going to uni is free or nearly free.
    Why is that? What makes British universities so much more expensive?

    I won't deny that the UK might have the best unis in Europe due to these high tuition fees, but there are some pretty good unis on the continent as well, which don't need a £6,000 tuition fee (and no £3,290 tuition fee either).

    £3,290 is already quite high compared to the rest of Europe. Why raise it? The UK isn't the only country with financial problems, but seems to be the only country that has to take dramatic measures.
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    Exactly! It's €500 in my country. And Belgium is in serious debt too.
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    Absolutely right - we do have the best universities in Europe, and lots of international students choose to come here to study.

    Almost all countries have tuition fees now, but it important that in England no student has to pay these up front.
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    That doesn't answer the question...
  5. gildartz's Avatar
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    Nice post. Unfortunately it doesn't answer the question...
  6. Drewski's Avatar
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    A polician avoiding the question?! Hold the presses.


    Lord Browne, this is why young people hate politics. Either answer the question or don't bother coming here and wasting time.
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    LOL at avoiding the question.
  8. StavRuler's Avatar
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    Yep and I'd like to see a comprehensive list of countries and cost for education in each, please! That "most" isn't enough.
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    (Original post by Lord Browne)
    Almost all countries have tuition fees now, but it important that in England no student has to pay these up front.
    What about graduate medics? You'll find that we do, actually.
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    Lol avoiding the question or what.
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    I heard being a member of the EU or something costs £55 million each day.
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    (Original post by Drewski)
    A polician avoiding the question?! Hold the presses.


    Lord Browne,this is why young people hate politics. Either answer the question or don't bother coming here and wasting time.
    Indeed, it's more respectable to just to hold your hands up and say that you don't know or can't answer the question than to avoid it.
  13. MrsRoxyK's Avatar
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    (Original post by Lord Browne)
    Absolutely right - we do have the best universities in Europe, and lots of international students choose to come here to study.

    Almost all countries have tuition fees now, but it important that in England no student has to pay these up front.
    The difference in quality is much smaller than the difference in tuition fees though.
    Last edited by MrsRoxyK; 13-10-2010 at 18:33.
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    lol if you're not gonna answer what's the point of posting?
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    (Original post by Lord Browne)
    Absolutely right - we do have the best universities in Europe, and lots of international students choose to come here to study.

    Almost all countries have tuition fees now, but it important that in England no student has to pay these up front.
    You have got to be kidding me. Why did you even bother posting with that response? Try again, please. I'm really quite curious to know the actual answer.
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    I have massive respect for Lord Browne but quite frankly this response is somewhat patronising. We may be young but we aren't stupid, and we can spot a sidestepping answer.
  17. MrsRoxyK's Avatar
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    (Original post by StavRuler)
    Yep and I'd like to see a comprehensive list of countries and cost for education in each, please! That "most" isn't enough.
    tuition fees in europe in 2007/2008:

    http://www.ifo.de/pls/guestci/downlo...ort407-db5.pdf
  18. Drewski's Avatar
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    (Original post by Azimuth)
    Europe generally has much higher rates of tax than this country. For example, VAT in Sweden is 25%.

    I don't think you'd support that either.
    However they also have either no or next to no income tax. It balances out.
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    Higher taxes.
  20. MrsRoxyK's Avatar
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    Re: Why are low tuition fees possible in Europe but not in the UK?
    (Original post by Azimuth)
    Europe generally has much higher rates of tax than this country. For example, VAT in Sweden is 25%.

    I don't think you'd support that either.
    And Swedish students get paid to go to school. It balances out, like the above poster's already metioned
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