Why were the Nazis called the National SOCIALIST party?

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That is a very good question! although I have studied the era of national socialism, German Reich and World War II intensively, I don't get an answer.

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Reply 62

Rakas21

The Nazis were socialists in the economic sense.

They believed in state ownership of the means of production, punitive taxation on the wealthy and significant state intervention in the economy. The reason the modern of socialists of today discard them is because of a refusal to distinguish between economic and social policy. His social policy of course being undeniably authoritarian.

In the same way that a capitalist is still a capitalist whether he supports the death penalty or liberalisation of drug policy, socialism is a purely economic construct regardless of your social views.

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Kallisto

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I have looked the derivation up. Socialism is derivated from the Latin word socialis what means companionable. Based on this meaning, its not a contradiction to be companionable and at enmity at the same time. In terms of National Socialism, National Socialists are comrades among themselves, but there were a certain ethnicity of people - namely Jews - which they hate nevertheless. National Socialism was quasi an alliance against Jews. And this Alliance made these National Socialists to comrades. And as far as I know there were people in Wehrmacht in which they describe themselves as comrades to demonstrate their unity.

That is my personal explanation at least why National Socialism contains the word 'Socialism'.

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KingBradly

'Socialism' doesn't just mean reading the Guardian, being right-on, and hating Margaret Thatcher. Socialism is at core based around economic principals which unfortunately allow the government to have a large amount of power. The Nazi's were socialist in every way. But they were were also fascist. Fascism is in no way at odds with socialism. In fact fascism couldn't work in a society which wasn't either socialist or communist.

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Old_Simon

Now I know that Adolf Hitler was a bad guy but he did know a thing or two about "branding" of political parties and about PR or spin doctoring. By that standard "National Socialism" is a very clever name. It certainly appealed to the masses. It created a sense of justice for the dispossessed in socialism. And it unified a very politically divided country by declaring itself national. Unity was a very important part of the Nazi message.

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imtelling

because they were a socialist party.

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ZÃ¼rich

Original post by chloeee!

How on earth were the Nazis 'socialists' or did that mean something different back then to what it does now? Didn't they hate the Communists, and isn't communism basically a stronger form of socialism?

Hitler said he regretted that name afterwards IIRC.

Economically though, Nazi Germany was very left wing with public works programmes, a large public service and large state intervention in the economy.

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Tinder

Original post by chloeee!

Perhaps this is over simplistic but doesn't national socialism mean socialism but just taking care of ones own nation and people as opposed to say socialism with mass immigration, foreign aid and supporting other people.

Now that New Labour has to deal with the fact that its voter base does not like mass immigration it will have to at least pretend to have national socialist policies.

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KingStannis

I'm not well versed in this period of history, but aI was taight at GCSE that it was to have their intentions remain ambiguous while appealing to a large section of people/

"Nationalist socialist" doesn't seem to have a particular inherent meaning, nationalism sounded partriotic and right wing where as socialism is inherently left wing. I think it was to have a broad appeal to those across class spectrums, especially since the poor would have wanted to vote for a radical party that would help the workers, and people would want to regain national pride after the humiliation of the treaty of Versailles.

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yo radical one

Original post by chloeee!

Their economic policies were centrist-socialist

They hated communism more because of the talk of men being equal, opposing hierarchy and the fact that Karl Marx had Jewish ancestry.