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  1. Srxjer's Avatar
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  2. 8086's Avatar
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    Atheists are just arrogant agnostics
    Atheists claim to base their views on evidence (or the lack thereof) of a higher power/God. However, they hold a belief. They believe that God doesn't exist.

    Agnosticism is truly impartial, based on evidence, and not arrogant enough to make a conclusion as the evidence is inconclusive.

    Thoughts?
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    Re: Atheists are just arrogant agnostics
    (Original post by 8086)
    Atheists claim to base their views on evidence (or the lack thereof) of a higher power/God. However, they hold a belief. They believe that God doesn't exist.

    Agnosticism is truly impartial, based on evidence, and not arrogant enough to make a conclusion as the evidence is inconclusive.

    Thoughts?
    But then theists are surely also arrogant agnostics...
  4. Slumpy's Avatar
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    Re: Atheists are just arrogant agnostics
    Largely depends on your definitions. Care to give them?
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    Re: Atheists are just arrogant agnostics
    Atheism is the absence of a belief in God.There are potentially billions of things I have no belief in.
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    Re: Atheists are just arrogant agnostics
    This will not end well
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    Re: Atheists are just arrogant agnostics
    Lack of believe in God. That is what Atheism stands for.

    Arrogant? So you telling us that Theist are not arrogant? Basing their faith teachings and way of life on a Old Book?



    lol
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    Re: Atheists are just arrogant agnostics
    Surely that is only based on your definition of atheism that has come from your experience of it on TSR and mainstream media commentators?
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    Re: Atheists are just arrogant agnostics
    This argument has been done so many times. You can't force yourself to believe a god exists so it's pointless. There's no evidence, so why be open-minded? Agnostics are going to hell regardless if god were to exist.
    Last edited by mikeylfc1989; 28-01-2011 at 19:35.
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    Re: Atheists are just arrogant agnostics
    (Original post by 8086)
    Atheists claim to base their views on evidence (or the lack thereof) of a higher power/God. However, they hold a belief. They believe that God doesn't exist.

    Agnosticism is truly impartial, based on evidence, and not arrogant enough to make a conclusion as the evidence is inconclusive.

    Thoughts?
    I agree wholeheartedly, this is also true for theists as well
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    Re: Atheists are just arrogant agnostics
    Atheists are as arrogant as theists, but neither of them are agnostic.
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    Re: Atheists are just arrogant agnostics
    What was the point in even starting this thread? Aren't there already like twenty war threads between theists and atheists/agnostics going already?

    But anyway, you shot yourself in the foot with that ridiculous point you made there. Your statement goes both ways, fool.
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    Re: Atheists are just arrogant agnostics
    Yea that's probably true, but their arrogance pales into significance when compared with the mountain of arrogance piled on my theists.
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    Re: Atheists are just arrogant agnostics
    (Original post by Bellrosk)
    But anyway, you shot yourself in the foot with that ridiculous point you made there. Your statement goes both ways, fool.
    And which point would that be?
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    Re: Atheists are just arrogant agnostics
    I'v come across this point before when reading an interview with Douglas Adams (some years back). His point was that whereas Theism is a belief based on faith, Atheism is not a belief just a conviction based on evidence which would (or should, not all atheists are as blind to the possibility of God as Dawkins) be capable of change. It is a conviction requireing no leap of faith/belief
    Last edited by Duck-Rabbit; 28-01-2011 at 19:46.
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    No we are atheists because we have evidence based on science dating back to the neolithic ages not because we are arrogant. You filthy theists on the other hand believe in a "god" because you are lost in the sh!t of life, and are clutching at something to explain your **** hole of a life.
    Last edited by Saichu; 29-01-2011 at 01:16. Reason: swear filter
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    Re: Atheists are just arrogant agnostics
    Atheism is when someone believes that there is no God.
    Agnosticism is when someone believes that there could be a God.
    Christianity is when someone believes that there is a God.

    No, Atheism isn't arrogant Agnosticism, because the atheist doesn't believe that a God may exist. Christians don't base their decision to believe in God on any evidence, it is personal belief, and that's all the words (atheist, agnostic) means.

    I think a better question, albeit maybe a wrong one to ask, would be "Are atheists arrogant in their beliefs and would agnosticism be a more reasonable belief system?"
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    Re: Atheists are just arrogant agnostics
    (Original post by Boobies.)
    Atheism is when someone believes that there is no God.
    Agnosticism is when someone believes that there could be a God.
    Christianity is when someone believes that there is a God.

    No, Atheism isn't arrogant Agnosticism, because the atheist doesn't believe that a God may exist. Christians don't base their decision to believe in God on any evidence, it is personal belief, and that's all the words (atheist, agnostic) means.

    I think a better question, albeit maybe a wrong one to ask, would be "Are atheists arrogant in their beliefs and would agnosticism be a more reasonable belief system?"
    I would argue that these definitions are a tad nonsensical(and for instance, a better example would be the plot of theisticity, and gnosticity).
    Also, unfortunate on the sig.
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    Re: Atheists are just arrogant agnostics
    (Original post by Duck-Rabbit)
    I'v come across this point before when reading an interview with Douglas Adams (some years back). His point was that whereas Theism is a belief based on faith, Atheism is not a belief just a conviction based on evidence which would (or should, not all atheists are as blind to the possibility of God as Dawkins) be capable of change. It is a conviction requireing no leap of faith/belief

    I'm sure Dawkins would change his conviction with viable evidence.
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    Re: Atheists are just arrogant agnostics
    (Original post by Boobies.)
    Christianity is when someone believes that there is a God.
    That would be Theism.
    Christianity is a theistic religion
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