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science fiction and fantasy are garbage.

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    it's trash. garbage. unholy filth for philistines. why do we tolerate the readers of this tripe?

    99% of it is poorly written and the other 1% is nothing compared to the quality of writing you get from literary authors. fantasy and sci-fi readers don't even deserve the title of "readers" - sci-fi and fantasy require the reading level of a 5 year old child. if you think it makes you better, smarter or more cultured than people who watch garbage like reality TV then you're wrong; it's the same variety of easy-to-swallow nonsense for a generation of people unwilling to engage their dumb minds and put a little effort into what they do on a day-to-day basis.

    most fantasy and sci-fi writers are objectively terrible and the critics agree with me. if the thought that just came into your mind is "taste is subjective" then you're wrong and you should kill yourself.

    if you willingly buy, read and support the dreck then you support the death of literature. thanks for reading.
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    No, not really.
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    (Original post by Abbadon27)
    No, not really.
    (Original post by Abbadon27)
    The only book I got was Good Omens. It's good though.
    next.
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    Taste is subjective.
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    You are a naughty troll.
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    i'm only trolling a bit. i love literature and hate that it's dying and being replaced by garbage.
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    (Original post by Norfolkadam)
    Taste is subjective.
    doesn't change the fact that idiots will subjectively have an idiot's bad taste.
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    (Original post by poster child)
    next.
    Pratchett is a very funny author, bad troll!
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    George R. R. Martin, Arthur C. Clarke, J. R. R. Tolkein, Tad Williams, David Eddings, R. A. Salvatore.

    Enough said.

    I could name more but do I need to? They are some very fine fantasy/science fiction authors.
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    I'm going to take the opinion seriously of someone who has an I heart a double child murderer sig. Your taste is obviously misguided.
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    (Original post by poster child)
    i'm only trolling a bit. i love literature and hate that it's dying and being replaced by garbage.
    okay, but 1984 is amazing as is A clockwork orange as is A Scanner Darkly as is The Hobbit as is... I could go on, but you probably think all these are trash?
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    (Original post by Sammydemon)
    George R. R. Martin, Arthur C. Clarke, J. R. R. Tolkein, Tad Williams, David Eddings, R. A. Salvatore.

    Enough said.

    I could name more but do I need to? They are some very fine fantasy/science fiction authors.
    oh my... they are already proving my point for me.
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    the best literature is easy to read
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    I have to admit, Sci-Fi and Fantasy are genres I've never been especially bothered about. There's only a few of each that I've read, however I did enjoy them (the Narnia books I loved, and I also enjoyed The Hobbit, The Day of the Triffids, The Wizard of Earthsea and Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea). Although I much prefer other genres/ non-fiction subjects (travel writing, history, art, anthropology, mythology, some classic fiction both modern & older), I wouldn't say that SF and Fantasy are 'garbage', as although there are books of questionable quality (ie. Twilight), there are also some good books within the genres.
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    Nah mate. There's a lot of badly written fantasy/sci fi out there, sure - but there are a lot of equally crappy books in other genres.

    I study english lit, I have read and am very fond of a lot of older, more "literary" books but I still really enjoy well-written, clever fantasy and scifi.
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    (Original post by poster child)
    i'm only trolling a bit. i love literature and hate that it's dying and being replaced by garbage.
    too presumptuous in drawing a line between fiction and fantasy, I think
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    (Original post by KingofSpades)
    the best literature is easy to read
    wrong.

    (Original post by FormerlyHistoryStudent)
    I have to admit, Sci-Fi and Fantasy are genres I've never been especially bothered about. There's only a few of each that I've read, however I did enjoy them (the Narnia books I loved, and I also enjoyed The Hobbit, The Day of the Triffids, The Wizard of Earthsea and Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea). Although I much prefer other genres/ non-fiction subjects (travel writing, history, art, anthropology, mythology, some classic fiction both modern & older), I wouldn't say that SF and Fantasy are 'garbage', as although there are books of questionable quality (ie. Twilight), there are also some good books within the genres.
    i hope you grow up one day and learn to appreciate good literature.

    (Original post by Angela_Beth)
    Nah mate.
    wrong.
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    Pseudo-intellectuals, got to love their opinion.
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    You should read Joe Abercrombie's trilogy, its kind of fantasy for people who don't like fantasy. They are so damn good.
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    (Original post by Abbadon27)
    Pseudo-intellectuals, got to love their opinion.
    the only pseudo-intellectual here is you. i know a lot more than you, as evidenced by me being right and you being wrong.

    (Original post by SillyRodent)
    You should read Joe Abercrombie's trilogy, its kind of fantasy for people who don't like fantasy. They are so damn good.
    I happen to have flicked through some of his stuff. it's really not that great. at all.
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