Yep I find these stats close to what I have observed.I met about 20 girls taking physics for their A-levels.It got even worse in A2 when there were only two girls in each group. For some reason physics is dominated by XY.
You take the same subjects as I do And when i tell people i'm applying for Maths they all go O_o.
I personally think the gender divide within subjects is down to the way a school operates. For instance at my school, they actively encourage people to apply for Medicine at University meaning we have large numbers of girls (I'm at an all girls school) taking Biology/Chemistry/Maths, as this is what the universities want them to take, and relatively few (for my year group it's only 6 people) taking Physics.
However at the mixed school across the road, there are more people taking Physics than there are Biology and Chemistry and the girls out number the boys...
Oh my, that's awesome! You're probably the first person I know who has the same subject combination
Well, yes I do think it depends on how the school runs it. My school's very good at encouraging weaker students to take weak subjects. And we do have a lot of asian people here (including myself) who are quite stereotypical genderwise when it coems to subject choices.
But I come from a family of female scientists. My mother did her masters in Physics, , my aunt is a Research Physicist, and many of my other family members did science subjects like Biology and such, so I suppose that may also have something to do with why I was quite bold with my choices
Yep I find these stats close to what I have observed.I met about 20 girls taking physics for their A-levels.It got even worse in A2 when there were only two girls in each group. For some reason physics is dominated by XY.
Dont worry. I'm going to have lots of children and make sure all the girls do physics and that all the boys do girly subjects just to try and break stereotypes
Oh my, that's awesome! You're probably the first person I know who has the same subject combination
Well, yes I do think it depends on how the school runs it. My school's very good at encouraging weaker students to take weak subjects. And we do have a lot of asian people here (including myself) who are quite stereotypical genderwise when it coems to subject choices.
But I come from a family of female scientists. My mother did her masters in Physics, , my aunt is a Research Physicist, and many of my other family members did science subjects like Biology and such, so I suppose that may also have something to do with why I was quite bold with my choices
Dont worry. I'm going to have lots of children and make sure all the girls do physics and that all the boys do girly subjects just to try and break stereotypes
They say that girls outperform boys in A levels in terms of their grade average. Nice to see the statistic that explains why this is the case. The guys tend to take the harder subjects. An A level in Media, Photography and ESPECIALLY Art are much easier than an A level in something like Chemistry and Physics. Don't start this 'Oh it depends on what you're good at, mathematical stuff or more arty stuff'.
They say that girls outperform boys in A levels in terms of their grade average. Nice to see the statistic that explains why this is the case. The guys tend to take the harder subjects. An A level in Media, Photography and ESPECIALLY Art are much easier than an A level in something like Chemistry and Physics. Don't start this 'Oh it depends on what you're good at, mathematical stuff or more arty stuff'.
Have you seen the amount of work they do for A level art?! Even if I was remotely good at arty things I'd be terrified to take it for A level!
Have you seen the amount of work they do for A level art?! Even if I was remotely good at arty things I'd be terrified to take it for A level!
they do an assload of work, but that doesn't mean it is difficult at all. I didn't do A-Level art but I did do it at GCSE. I spent alot of time on the coursework, but it isnt difficult really. and my friends who did product design A-Level (another arty A-Level where there is a crapload of coursework) said it is not hard, just time consuming
Look at the subjects along the bottom and see if you notice a trend in their nature, content and demands.
1) Why do you think boys and girls choose certain subjects over others? Genetic predilection? Invisible bias in the education system? An awareness by most girls that they will perform poorly in certain subjects?
2) Is this a "problem"? Do you think we need 50% of each gender in every subject? If so, why? And how would you achieve this - incentives and handicaps to get people in/out of the subjects? Systematic influence of children to ensure identical interests across the genders once in their teens?
Where is this graph from?
Notice how "Science subjects" are marked as the second most highly male dominated! Shocker!
Look closer, and realise that Biology and Chemistry both have their own indicators, and are both fairly close to the 50 - 50 mark. Biology is even swinging towards more girls.
Notice how "Science subjects" are marked as the second most highly male dominated! Shocker!
Not very shocking, really. I don't know what "Science Subjects" means, though - if it's a compilation of bio, chem, physics... or if it's "other science subjects" in some sense.
Look closer, and realise that Biology and Chemistry both have their own indicators, and are both fairly close to the 50 - 50 mark. Biology is even swinging towards more girls.
Not very shocking, really. I don't know what "Science Subjects" means, though - if it's a compilation of bio, chem, physics... or if it's "other science subjects" in some sense.
Correct. Biology is 43.6:56.4, m:f
any reason?
Thanks for the source
It's a pathetic graph because they've only included this arbitrary 'science subjects' category to back up their own conclusions that science is dominated by boys.
Physics is, absolutely, dominated by boys. And coincidentally, looking at the original data as well, 'science subjects' and 'physics' have the exact same gender ratio - 78.5:21.5 (m:f)
I would be very interested to hear what they categorise as a science subject, because using their data, if we look at what most people assume are science subjects (bio, chem and physics), the ratio is actually 58.1:41.9 (m:f)
This would lead most people to draw pretty different conclusions, if you ask me!
EDIT: I only just realised that the graph was made by you, and so I apologise - the graph is not pathetic, but in my opinion, the data tables it is based on are.
Look at the subjects along the bottom and see if you notice a trend in their nature, content and demands.
1) Why do you think boys and girls choose certain subjects over others? Genetic predilection? Invisible bias in the education system? An awareness by most girls that they will perform poorly in certain subjects?
2) Is this a "problem"? Do you think we need 50% of each gender in every subject? If so, why? And how would you achieve this - incentives and handicaps to get people in/out of the subjects? Systematic influence of children to ensure identical interests across the genders once in their teens?
I think this is actually really interesting.
Firstly, there might be an awareness by most boys that they'll perform poorly in certain subjects
But really, if you think about it, the old school system expected boys to do the practical stuff so really girls are still catching up in that aspect.
Also, I'm always hearing that boys are active learners and so generally they might struggle in essay-based subjects...
But really it's all subjective isn't it
I like how girls are outperforming boys at school in general though and there's a big hooha about it whereas if it was the other way round no one would have a problem..