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Jack Straw spoke the truth (asians hate whites)

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    (Original post by aws)
    Whilst his words weren't the best his sentiment was true and anyone who disagrees hasn't lived in heavily Asian areas.

    Firstly I am not going to give numbers or even words like minority/majority of but rather that the phenomena exists.

    There this is this mentality of 'whites = good for a shag' and 'asians = marry' which leads some asian males to regard them as lesser/only good for sex. since all the asians are 'brothers'
    they leave each others sisters alone


    Also you don't target your own there is a huge sense of pride of religion and culture and they are more protective of their 'sisters' and even hypocritically don't even allow their own sisters to date and parents are generally heavily protective of their daughters so % wise not as many are allowed out, no drinking culture factor into them separating themselves from whites

    The above reasons should explain why they elect to go for whites and only whites. Their minds allows them to do such crimes because they have made the whites almost sub-human in their eyes so it becomes ok in their minds to do such things.
    Any relative form of validity in this statement was distorted by your sheer ignorance and simplification of the issue.

    Yes, there is a problem. However, can you really say ALL asians hate ALL whites ? That is ridiculous. In fact, there isnt even significant evidence that there is widespread animosity, and in reality, asians tend to hate other asians (ie. indians and pakistanis) more than they hate other races.

    Secondly, this is a problem with asian GANGS. Would you like it if i compared the whole white race to gangs of chavs ? If i said there was a problem with white people because 'they all just get pissed and start fights' ? No, you wouldnt, because the statement is invalid and demeaning. Yes, there is a problem with asian gangs, but bear in mind this tends to be restricted to inner city areas where these asian boys fester- most of whom are pakistani or bengali descent anyway. Also bear in mind that the white girls that become victims of asian gangs often choose to get involved with these gangs in the first place; whether its the 'pimped out car' or the money the asian boys splash on them, these white girls are not being kidnapped and raped, rather groomed.

    Thirdly, asian girls are just as much victims. The reason why they are not 'preyed' upon however, is due to conflicts within asian communities. For example, if the boys in the gang were muslim, they would most likely not go near hindu or sikh girls and vice versa.

    so please, before you make a bigger idiot of yourself, look deeper into this problem. thanks
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    (Original post by bunty64)
    there were about 27 victims in total who were abused by this gang and 7 of them were non-white....

    The white girls are an easy target in their area....broken homes, little or no parental guidance/care and add alcohol to the mix... makes it all too easy for these sexual preadators....
    **** off.

    A parent can't stop their child going to the shopping centre, or to the cinema etc, which is where the majority of these things happen. Young girls are impressionable, there's nothing else to it.
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    (Original post by younglawyer)
    So all the white men in this country who have committed similar acts, they are behaving in the same way because white girls are going around in a Burqah? - Your argument has no logic I'm afraid, although I understand where you are coming from. If you mean to say they are deprived of mixing with women, yes I agree. If that's the reason why it is okay to go around grooming young girls, no that's wrong. There's a simple solution, it lies with these young men, if indeed they know they can't be with a white girl, why go after them? - Surely, it's better if they just focus on the girl they'll be able to marry or just wait till they marry someone their parents pick. A proportion of the blame has to go on the stupid Asian, (sorry to single it out) Pakistani culture of marrying their cousins. It's nothing to do with being Muslim, it's just very thick/stupid boys crossing the line in their thoughts and actions. As you said Black boys feel the same way, maybe the girls should take a look at themselves too (I'm excluding the decent white girls).
    I'm not saying that, obviously it can't be that because Britain isn't a muslim country. I'm saying that these men are not used to mixing around women who are allowed to dress however they please, nor are they used to being in a media where sex is constantly pushed in your face, so they might be disgusted by it or overly excited by it. These men coming from these countries aren't allowed to even see the female form until marriage so when they see young girls who are vulnerable walking around in next to nothing clothes or cleavage they're gonna view these girls as easy or "tarts" and think that they are allowed to molest them because of this.
    The men who abuse young girls in this country usually do so because of pornography (corrupts the mind) or they crave sex, therefore the easiest person to get it from is from a young girl. The majority of young girls in this country are white.
    And the girls are partly to blame too because some of the White British girls BRAG about their sexual activity which will lead them into being perceived as being sluts.
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    (Original post by BBYoungLady)
    I'm not saying that, obviously it can't be that because Britain isn't a muslim country. I'm saying that these men are not used to mixing around women who are allowed to dress however they please, nor are they used to being in a media where sex is constantly pushed in your face, so they might be disgusted by it or overly excited by it. These men coming from these countries aren't allowed to even see the female form until marriage so when they see young girls who are vulnerable walking around in next to nothing clothes or cleavage they're gonna view these girls as easy or "tarts" and think that they are allowed to molest them because of this.
    The men who abuse young girls in this country usually do so because of pornography (corrupts the mind) or they crave sex, therefore the easiest person to get it from is from a young girl. The majority of young girls in this country are white.
    And the girls are partly to blame too because some of the White British girls BRAG about their sexual activity which will lead them into being perceived as being sluts.
    I understand the point about men coming from other countries, but the problem isn't with Pakistani immigrants that come over here, but more the British Asian boys. So I don't really follow.

    I agree with everything else
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    Everyone keeps saying Asian guys - there's a massive difference between Indians (mostly Hindu and Sikhs) and Pakistanis (Muslims).

    Jack Straw was talking about the Pakistani community - so please don't say Asian. I've heard this problem voiced quite a few times about Pakistani guys, never heard it about Indian guys.
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    This thread is full of whites talking like they themselves are perfect, because when a foreigner commits a crime it's always worse than if a white does it and there are always exterior motives involved to do with race when the foreigner ****s a white girl.

    There will always the odd sexual predator in any race of people. And I for one have NEVER remembered seeing a Pakistani with a white girl, they hardly integrate outside of their own Muslim/South Asian society. I don't think this is as big problem as people think, if they are going around targetting and abusing girls in Britain, some of them are bound to be white girls. I just think these were a pair of very sick individuals.
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    (Original post by aws)
    Whilst his words weren't the best his sentiment was true and anyone who disagrees hasn't lived in heavily Asian areas.

    Firstly I am not going to give numbers or even words like minority/majority of but rather that the phenomena exists.

    There this is this mentality of 'whites = good for a shag' and 'asians = marry' which leads some asian males to regard them as lesser/only good for sex. since all the asians are 'brothers'
    they leave each others sisters alone


    Also you don't target your own there is a huge sense of pride of religion and culture and they are more protective of their 'sisters' and even hypocritically don't even allow their own sisters to date and parents are generally heavily protective of their daughters so % wise not as many are allowed out, no drinking culture factor into them separating themselves from whites

    The above reasons should explain why they elect to go for whites and only whites. Their minds allows them to do such crimes because they have made the whites almost sub-human in their eyes so it becomes ok in their minds to do such things.
    Mate, just admit you're simple and then we can all relax.
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    I am asian and i know that a lot of white women/girls tend to go for an asian guy but dudes asian guys are not good looking i would rather go for a white guy than an asian.
    asian parents tend to be protective over their daughters becuase it ia all about respect and gaining respect from other asian families. It usually depends on how strict the parents are and how religious they are, i go out with my friends and my parents arent strict. C'est la vie
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    Jack Straw jacks off to asian girls.
    he's a douche.
    So are you..
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    (Original post by Michael Locke)
    **** off.

    A parent can't stop their child going to the shopping centre, or to the cinema etc, which is where the majority of these things happen. Young girls are impressionable, there's nothing else to it.
    Exactly... I agree with you... The asian pimps knew this fact and the parental values/norms of both the white/pakistani families and so targeted the girls (white girls in this case)....

    watch the panorama programme on this issue: you may have already watched it...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC-ZA...eature=related

    note the section from 05:07 - 05:42 in the video below.... clearly states what I say above...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1Gh0...eature=related
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    (Original post by aws)
    if you looked at the stats ...

    jesus what's wrong with you people, I know first hand, having spoken to the types of people, they REALLY AND TRULY see white people as below them/second-rate. Why is this such a difficult concept for you to understand and say "well england is 90% white you know"

    believing a piece of paper than actual interactions. yes stats can be useful but you know there's only crime that gets reported, even the police say there's a lot we don't say/goes undetected

    I'm not saying I hang out with pedo's but rather I have been around enough asians who HATE the living daylights out of white people and in front of them "hey carol , love your dress" and behind "****ing gori besharam"

    BTW I am asian too and I have no affinity to asians or whites, I just tell it like it is and sadly unless you too are asian and in close with the asians there two-facedness will never be revealed.
    Is this the case with asians in general or just pakistanis... do you think a christian/hindu/atheist pakistani/asian would have the same mentality?

    Is it just whites who they believe are inferior to them, or can you include others who are not like them?

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    (Original post by Gulshie)
    I am asian and i know that a lot of white women/girls tend to go for an asian guy but dudes asian guys are not good looking i would rather go for a white guy than an asian.
    asian parents tend to be protective over their daughters becuase it ia all about respect and gaining respect from other asian families. It usually depends on how strict the parents are and how religious they are, i go out with my friends and my parents arent strict. C'est la vie
    are you pakistani muslim? Liberal/conservative?
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    (Original post by BBYoungLady)
    I'm not saying that, obviously it can't be that because Britain isn't a muslim country. I'm saying that these men are not used to mixing around women who are allowed to dress however they please, nor are they used to being in a media where sex is constantly pushed in your face, so they might be disgusted by it or overly excited by it. These men coming from these countries aren't allowed to even see the female form until marriage so when they see young girls who are vulnerable walking around in next to nothing clothes or cleavage they're gonna view these girls as easy or "tarts" and think that they are allowed to molest them because of this.
    The men who abuse young girls in this country usually do so because of pornography (corrupts the mind) or they crave sex, therefore the easiest person to get it from is from a young girl. The majority of young girls in this country are white.
    And the girls are partly to blame too because some of the White British girls BRAG about their sexual activity which will lead them into being perceived as being sluts.
    Most of the members of these pimp criminal gangs are british asians (of pakistani herigage). They have been raised in our sex focussed media/culture so its not a massive culture shock as to say someone coming from a small isolated village in their native country.

    In all honestly, I believe all men (and women for that fact) will view girls/women who dress with a lot of flesh exposed as being “easy” or any other similarly associated word.
    Interesting I watched a programme on bbc3 (iplayer) about the video girls in the “black urban hip-hop” music videos and the attitude of the black men towards these girls. The attitude was the same. They wanted and liked the girls to dress in a certain way but at the same time thought of them in a negative light for dressing in such a way. You may have heard black guys using the term “wifey”….. essentially having a “ting” with some “yat” (correct me if my slang is wrong), but then settling down with a different type of girl (“wifey” material).

    It’s not just white girls who ‘brag about their sexual activity’, or openly display their sexuality, but black girls and asian girls as well.… It is more limited or non-existant in girls/boys who come from a conservatively religious/cultural background.

    what country is your bf from?
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    The subcontinental males are absurd. They make ridiculous proclaimations about not eating meat, not smoking etc.in the name of Hinduism/Islam, while secretly practising all those bad habits and they even visit whores.
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    (Original post by nativeLondoner)
    The subcontinental males are absurd. They make ridiculous proclaimations about not eating meat, not smoking etc.in the name of Hinduism/Islam, while secretly practising all those bad habits and they even visit whores.
    its what happens when they bring religion into it..... ie. god said eating pork/non-halal is wrong.....having sex etc.... they still do it...

    just look at those in our soceity who promote religion and all that is forbidden within it.... they end up being serial paedos!
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    (Original post by bunty64)
    Most of the members of these pimp criminal gangs are british asians (of pakistani herigage). They have been raised in our sex focussed media/culture so its not a massive culture shock as to say someone coming from a small isolated village in their native country.

    In all honestly, I believe all men (and women for that fact) will view girls/women who dress with a lot of flesh exposed as being “easy” or any other similarly associated word.
    Interesting I watched a programme on bbc3 (iplayer) about the video girls in the “black urban hip-hop” music videos and the attitude of the black men towards these girls. The attitude was the same. They wanted and liked the girls to dress in a certain way but at the same time thought of them in a negative light for dressing in such a way. You may have heard black guys using the term “wifey”….. essentially having a “ting” with some “yat” (correct me if my slang is wrong), but then settling down with a different type of girl (“wifey” material).

    It’s not just white girls who ‘brag about their sexual activity’, or openly display their sexuality, but black girls and asian girls as well.… It is more limited or non-existant in girls/boys who come from a conservatively religious/cultural background.

    what country is your bf from?
    Yeah it's not just white girls, it's western girls tbh

    But these are famous black men and they're not exploiting women of a specific race. They are looking at women as sexual objects regardless of race. However the Pakistani men in question aimed for white females. Why is that? Why is it specifically white females they look for?
    I saw that hip hop honey thing. I LOL'd at it tbh.

    My bf is Gambian/Senegalese/Sierra Leonian lol but was born in Gambia
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    (Original post by BBYoungLady)
    Yeah it's not just white girls, it's western girls tbh

    But these are famous black men and they're not exploiting women of a specific race. They are looking at women as sexual objects regardless of race. However the Pakistani men in question aimed for white females. Why is that? Why is it specifically white females they look for?
    I saw that hip hop honey thing. I LOL'd at it tbh.

    My bf is Gambian/Senegalese/Sierra Leonian lol but was born in Gambia
    yeh "famous" in their "endz"........ otherwise hoodrats! I'm not talking about those who've made it in the mainstream.....

    why do you think pakistani males target white females? I've already stated the reasons several times in the thread... I don't believe it is a race specific issue, rather a cultural issue.

    I didn't agree with your claim that pakistani men come here and get excited and can't control themselves/get excited etc..... this has nothing to do with these criminal cases...

    black men are just as bad..... in terms of pimping...... P.I.M.P ..... believe they dominate the wolverhampton pimp scene and the pakistanis run the bradford/blackburn pimp scene...
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    I don't think asians hate whites. They're just stereotypes that some people have, of any race. For example:

    - Some whites think asian men are nerdy and have small pricks
    - Some asians think white women are fat and slutty

    I don't think this is conclusive proof that asians hate whites. They don't.
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    Interesting that Jack Straw has said something that until now would have been said only by a British National Party spokesman and instantly denounced as 'racist'.

    But oh wait a minute. Jack Straw is a Labour party politician... the party that opened the doors to immigration, and then opened them wider, and wider, and then wider some more... and so on.

    The hypocrisy baffles the mind.


    More on topic... anyone who denies that these Asians held these English girls in contempt quite obviously themselves holds English people in contempt/has a chip on their shoulder against them (and we all know who those sort of people are on here)
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    (Original post by Time Tourist)
    Interesting that Jack Straw has said something that until now would have been said only by a British National Party spokesman and instantly denounced as 'racist'.

    But oh wait a minute. Jack Straw is a Labour party politician... the party that opened the doors to immigration, and then opened them wider, and wider, and then wider some more... and so on.

    The hypocrisy baffles the mind.


    More on topic... anyone who denies that these Asians held these English girls in contempt quite obviously themselves holds English people in contempt/has a chip on their shoulder against them.
    That's because the labour party does not have a history of being overtly racist, unlike the BNP, of which Mr. Griffin had to create a 'modern' image detracting from the days of John Tyndall and the other 'kick em all out' crowd. Secondly, Straw noted that this was a select minority of pakistanis and in no way reflects the pakistani or indeed the asian community as a whole, which despite bnp literature, is quite often the impression indicated by supporter's videos/comments/writings etc.

    And of course i agree that THESE asians held the english girls in contempt, however, in no way does it reflect the entire community in the slightest.

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