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  1. DJ_Black's Avatar
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    Re: Assasin's Creed: Brotherhood
    I haven't got the game myself, but my cousin got it on Christmas, and we pretty much spent about 8 hours on the multiplayer that night. I was pretty inebriated whilst playing it, but I do remember thinking it was pretty ****ing ace... Going to buy my own copy when I get paid at the end of this month... sick singleplayer storyline as well, so I've heard.
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    The multiplayer is ludicrously fun. Mainly because it's so different to any other game, and Ubisoft manage to support it really well.
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    Re: Assasin's Creed: Brotherhood
    (Original post by DJ_Black)
    I haven't got the game myself, but my cousin got it on Christmas, and we pretty much spent about 8 hours on the multiplayer that night. I was pretty inebriated whilst playing it, but I do remember thinking it was pretty ****ing ace... Going to buy my own copy when I get paid at the end of this month... sick singleplayer storyline as well, so I've heard.
    Get the first two first or at least read up on the storyline of the first game and get AC II first. AC II is the better game, but Brotherhood is pretty damn good as well.
  4. Phalanges's Avatar
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    I would definitely like to be in this society. I think these games are probably tied with the Hitman series as my favourite games of all time.
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    (Original post by TomH999)
    Yea same situation Im half way through Brotherhood and loving it, have you played online, to be honest I didnt think it would be that good but really enjoy it.



    From what ive researched they arent giving much away and I think most topics are merely rumours at the minute. I found this article, good be true but could be complete rubbish, but it doesnt give anything away at all.
    http://www.connectedconsoles.com/blo...magazine/2794/



    I was trying to think where they could take the next assassins creed if they decided to let Ezio rest (which would be a good idea) am I right in saying that Brotherhood is set in the 1400's to around the 1500's? Please correct me if Im wrong.
    Alot of people have been saying that t should be set in the Victorian London Era, I just think this would be too far ahead on the historical timeline, I was thinking the Stuart Period because this is around the 1600's so i believe and then they could involve people like Shakespeare
    Theres lots of options really, will be interesting to see where they take it next.
    Have you completed Brotherhood? If so, look at my spoiler below:

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    Shaun at the very end mentions the masonic eye and pyghrian cap or something like that. The only place those have been seen were in the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen, an important piece of legislation to have come from the French Revolution. This also makes sense. Ubisoft are a company based in France. The development team are based in Ubisoft Montreal which is largely a French speaking town. Revolutionary France just seems like such a perfect setting. I wonder if they will put Napoleon in and if he will be an enemy or not, because those who were enemies in the previous games were powerful figures in history. They could just as easily make him to be part of the Assassins, but I doubt it.

    Last edited by Madjackismad; 12-01-2011 at 01:22.
  6. vn2009's Avatar
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    Re: Assasin's Creed: Brotherhood
    (Original post by HilariousNinja)
    The multiplayer is ludicrously fun. Mainly because it's so different to any other game, and Ubisoft manage to support it really well.
    Multiplayer is really good! U got it on ps3 or xbox?
  7. Jess!ca's Avatar
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    Hmm, Etzio

    I love this game, I love the history inside it too. Much better than COD etc. I not one for my aiming. Good ol lock on and kill ^^
  8. Phalanges's Avatar
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    I have a new favourite theory about the ending to Brotherhood with respect to the greater canon:

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    You are playing this game as the son of Desmond. The mother is Lucy. When you stabbed Lucy you created a parradox whereby you can't exist, hence the game cutting to black and distant voices yelling that you'd gone unstable and had to be put back in the Animus.

    Eden is heaven. Subject 16 tells you that you have to bring "her" back from Eden. By using the Shroud (the piece of Eden that allows for resurrection) you will be able to manipulate death and travel to heaven where Lucy will be now you've killed her. Once resurrected, she will be freed of her Templar past and will awaken to the realisation that she is Eve. Juno said "She lies not within our sights [heaven], awaken the sixth".

    It's also worth pointing out that the alternative name for Juno is Lucina. Juno was a goddess of childbirth.
  9. Madjackismad's Avatar
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    Re: Assassin's Creed Society
    (Original post by Phalanges)
    I have a new favourite theory about the ending to Brotherhood with respect to the greater canon:

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    You are playing this game as the son of Desmond. The mother is Lucy. When you stabbed Lucy you created a parradox whereby you can't exist, hence the game cutting to black and distant voices yelling that you'd gone unstable and had to be put back in the Animus.

    Eden is heaven. Subject 16 tells you that you have to bring "her" back from Eden. By using the Shroud (the piece of Eden that allows for resurrection) you will be able to manipulate death and travel to heaven where Lucy will be now you've killed her. Once resurrected, she will be freed of her Templar past and will awaken to the realisation that she is Eve. Juno said "She lies not within our sights [heaven], awaken the sixth".

    It's also worth pointing out that the alternative name for Juno is Lucina. Juno was a goddess of childbirth.
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    A lot of theories have been floating about with the concept of a memory within a memory. I have to think to myself though, it seems too influenced by Inception and this game was in development before Inception was released. Also, why create such an elaborate threat as the Abstergo satellite launch in 2012, where you're playing as Desmond having to stop it? Would seem a bit pointless if they dropped all that and it turns out you're playing as the son of Desmond who needs to stop his father from killing Lucy. Also, isn't Lucy a descendant of Eve? Also, there is no heaven per se, as there are no Gods. Those such as Minerva, Juno and Jupiter only came to be perceived as gods as they gradually became mere myths. Also, I'm pretty sure Eden is the creation of the First Civilisation and in many respects it was more of a prison for the humans. I also think Eden was destroyed by the sun, same way the First Civilisation were destroyed.

    However, this is just me merely rambling. There is a good chance you're playing as a descendant of Desmond, but I think those voices at the end are either Templars who have kidnapped Desmond again or the Assassins's found them in the chamber (remember William H said he would meet them there).
    Last edited by Madjackismad; 12-01-2011 at 14:49.
  10. Phalanges's Avatar
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    (Original post by Madjackismad)
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    A lot of theories have been floating about with the concept of a memory within a memory. I have to think to myself though, it seems too influenced by Inception and this game was in development before Inception was released. Also, why create such an elaborate threat as the Abstergo satellite launch in 2012, where you're playing as Desmond having to stop it? Would seem a bit pointless if they dropped all that and it turns out you're playing as the son of Desmond who needs to stop his father from killing Lucy. Also, isn't Lucy a descendant of Eve? Also, there is no heaven per se, as there are no Gods. Those such as Minerva, Juno and Jupiter only came to be perceived as gods as they gradually became mere myths. Also, I'm pretty sure Eden is the creation of the First Civilisation and in many respects it was more of a prison for the humans. I also think Eden was destroyed by the sun, same way the First Civilisation were destroyed.

    However, this is just me merely rambling. There is a good chance you're playing as a descendant of Desmond, but I think those voices at the end are either Templars who have kidnapped Desmond again or the Assassins's found them in the chamber (remember William H said he would meet them there).
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    I don't think it looks influenced within Inception at all, tbh. I think it's perfectly plausible to take the original game and perceive of a future where people could relive Desmond's life without knowing about Inception. It's quite a simple extension.

    Well you have to bear in mind how memory playback works; you can't just start with the event, you have to work up. In this instance the event would be the Abstergo satellite, which it's easy to think of would have far enough reaching consequences that someone might want to go back and look (or Templars would want to see where they went wrong :holmes:). The Lucy thing that I was talking about would be worked into that story - Desmond has to find his Eve, but first she had to be awoken (killed then resurrected). It's just that after the killing part Desmond's son wouldn't be able to have been born until she was resurrected, hence the paradox.

    I thought "those who came before" pretty much were gods? They had humans as slaves, after all.

    Eden may well not be heaven, but I think it is what christianity perceives to be heaven. An unspoilt utopia. If Desmond has to travel there to find his Eve I would think it has to include present-day people.

    I can't imagine the assassins would be too happy to see Desmond stab someone very important, also you don't hear anything from Shaun or Rebecca which I think you would if it was 2012. Also, they say "get him back in the animus", which to me implies he was just in it.
  11. Iain 815's Avatar
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    Re: Assassin's Creed Society
    (Original post by Phalanges)
    I have a new favourite theory about the ending to Brotherhood with respect to the greater canon:

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    You are playing this game as the son of Desmond. The mother is Lucy. When you stabbed Lucy you created a parradox whereby you can't exist, hence the game cutting to black and distant voices yelling that you'd gone unstable and had to be put back in the Animus.

    Eden is heaven. Subject 16 tells you that you have to bring "her" back from Eden. By using the Shroud (the piece of Eden that allows for resurrection) you will be able to manipulate death and travel to heaven where Lucy will be now you've killed her. Once resurrected, she will be freed of her Templar past and will awaken to the realisation that she is Eve. Juno said "She lies not within our sights [heaven], awaken the sixth".

    It's also worth pointing out that the alternative name for Juno is Lucina. Juno was a goddess of childbirth.
    I'm moving that theory.

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    Well, probably not the whole heaven thing, but the paradox stuff definitely sounds possible.


    The game thoroughly deserves that Videogame Writing Award it's been nominated for.
    Last edited by Iain 815; 12-01-2011 at 15:22.
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    Re: Assasin's Creed: Brotherhood
    (Original post by vn2009)
    Multiplayer is really good! U got it on ps3 or xbox?
    PS3. Though I havent played for a while because of exams.
  13. Phalanges's Avatar
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    (Original post by Iain 815)
    I'm moving that theory.

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    Well, probably not the whole heaven thing, but the paradox stuff definitely sounds possible.


    The game thoroughly deserves that Videogame Writing Award it's been nominated for.
    What do you mean by moving the theory? :unsure:
  14. CB91's Avatar
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    I read an article on Game Insider (I think) where it had the Top 30 characters from the last decade of video gaming. Desmond, Altair and Ezio were all in it. :awesome:

    Anyone have any guesses as to who Ezio had his kid with?

    As soon as Altair's child was conceived with Maria in Acre, his memories stopped and passed on, so Ezio hasn't had his yet. I'm thinking Caterina tbh. :holmes:
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    (Original post by Phalanges)
    What do you mean by moving the theory? :unsure:
    Oops, meant to say I was loving that theory.
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    Re: Assassin's Creed Society
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    I don't think it looks influenced within Inception at all, tbh. I think it's perfectly plausible to take the original game and perceive of a future where people could relive Desmond's life without knowing about Inception. It's quite a simple extension.

    Well you have to bear in mind how memory playback works; you can't just start with the event, you have to work up. In this instance the event would be the Abstergo satellite, which it's easy to think of would have far enough reaching consequences that someone might want to go back and look (or Templars would want to see where they went wrong :holmes:). The Lucy thing that I was talking about would be worked into that story - Desmond has to find his Eve, but first she had to be awoken (killed then resurrected). It's just that after the killing part Desmond's son wouldn't be able to have been born until she was resurrected, hence the paradox.

    I thought "those who came before" pretty much were gods? They had humans as slaves, after all.

    Eden may well not be heaven, but I think it is what christianity perceives to be heaven. An unspoilt utopia. If Desmond has to travel there to find his Eve I would think it has to include present-day people.

    I can't imagine the assassins would be too happy to see Desmond stab someone very important, also you don't hear anything from Shaun or Rebecca which I think you would if it was 2012. Also, they say "get him back in the animus", which to me implies he was just in it.
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    True, there are so many possible answers. Wasn't the whole point of the animus in the first game was in finding a piece of eden so they could insert it into the satellite and then send it up to space? Because the piece of eden requires a constant energy force and then sun will give it that energy, meaning they can control people all over the world. If they were successful and the whole thing is indeed taking place later in the future, then nobody would be able to break out from the POE control. I'm probably wrong in this case. Hm, I'm starting to see what you mean with Lucy. Would be a good thing if this was the case. I'm pretty sure Lucy isn't dead though, I mean, can't someone survive from a stomach wound? They would certainly be bleeding out. Maybe they manage to save her and this is shown right at the start of ACIII?

    Yeah, but the thing is, Desmond didn't actively stab Lucy. Juno or the apple did it. The Assassin's might be able to see this. Also, there are many ways those two voices at the end could play out. I think the person saying "No!" is Desmond regaining consciousness, either after Abstergo have managed to kidnap him, Shaun and Lucy again, or the Assassin's have managed to take him back to HQ or something, which could explain why you're suddenly able to play as Ezio again. I dunno though.

    They were certainly "God-like", but remember at the end of ACII, Ezio asks her if she is a God, and she says no, they only came to be seen as Gods long after they had been wiped out through the messages they left behind about their civilisation. They were not human, but something else entirely. They created humans to be slaves and they controlled them through the Pieces of Eden because they had advanced knowledge. However, their downfall was giving humans a consciousness (remember Juno says she thought it was a mistake) and this led to Adam and Eve rebelling, stealing a piece of Eden, escaping from Eden and starting the whole war between "Those who came before" and the humans, who were beating them thanks to their numbers, before the sun wiped them out. I think I also read somewhere that the voice actors for Adam and Eve in The Truth video in ACII are the same for Desmond and Lucy.
    Last edited by Madjackismad; 12-01-2011 at 16:30.
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    Re: Assassin's Creed Society
    (Original post by CB91)
    I read an article on Game Insider (I think) where it had the Top 30 characters from the last decade of video gaming. Desmond, Altair and Ezio were all in it. :awesome:

    Anyone have any guesses as to who Ezio had his kid with?

    As soon as Altair's child was conceived with Maria in Acre, his memories stopped and passed on, so Ezio hasn't had his yet. I'm thinking Caterina tbh. :holmes:
    Yeah, I think it's probably Caterina.
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    Beautiful society...

    I'm going to name my male children Altair and Ezio.
  19. Phalanges's Avatar
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    (Original post by Iain 815)
    Oops, meant to say I was loving that theory.
    Ah, that makes more sense. :p:


    (Original post by Madjackismad)
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    True, there are so many possible answers. Wasn't the whole point of the animus in the first game was in finding a piece of eden so they could insert it into the satellite and then send it up to space? Because the piece of eden requires a constant energy force and then sun will give it that energy, meaning they can control people all over the world. If they were successful and the whole thing is indeed taking place later in the future, then nobody would be able to break out from the POE control. I'm probably wrong in this case. Hm, I'm starting to see what you mean with Lucy. Would be a good thing if this was the case. I'm pretty sure Lucy isn't dead though, I mean, can't someone survive from a stomach wound? They would certainly be bleeding out. Maybe they manage to save her and this is shown right at the start of ACIII?

    Yeah, but the thing is, Desmond didn't actively stab Lucy. Juno or the apple did it. The Assassin's might be able to see this. Also, there are many ways those two voices at the end could play out. I think the person saying "No!" is Desmond regaining consciousness, either after Abstergo have managed to kidnap him, Shaun and Lucy again, or the Assassin's have managed to take him back to HQ or something, which could explain why you're suddenly able to play as Ezio again. I dunno though.

    They were certainly "God-like", but remember at the end of ACII, Ezio asks her if she is a God, and she says no, they only came to be seen as Gods long after they had been wiped out through the messages they left behind about their civilisation. They were not human, but something else entirely. They created humans to be slaves and they controlled them through the Pieces of Eden because they had advanced knowledge. However, their downfall was giving humans a consciousness (remember Juno says she thought it was a mistake) and this led to Adam and Eve rebelling, stealing a piece of Eden, escaping from Eden and starting the whole war between "Those who came before" and the humans, who were beating them thanks to their numbers, before the sun wiped them out. I think I also read somewhere that the voice actors for Adam and Eve in The Truth video in ACII are the same for Desmond and Lucy.
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    Can't really remember back to the details of the first game very much, haven't played in it a while.

    You can survive, but it's also very possible to die from a stomach wound (it's one of the most painful ways). I think Altair survived after being wounded in a similar way in the first game. I have a gut feeling (no pun intended) she died though.

    I doubt they could see it, tbh. After all, they didn't mention a thing during Juno's speeches, when at the very least Shaun would have made some quips. To them it probably looks like Desmond's either gone crazy or revealed his true intentions.

    They sound an awful lot like Gods to me. :p: I'm beginning to doubt how much Juno and Minerva can be trusted, they probably have their own agenda seeing as how they are the only ones who can seem to control the artefacts.
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    I'm only halfway through Brotherhood - I'm feeling left out
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