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    'Arry's behaviour has been so strange and seems to think that because he is the English media love child, he can get away with anything- e.g. taking you guys for mugs.

    He spouting his mouth all over the press saying the importance he gets given a new contract bla bla bla but then today says "It was nothing to do with contracts or me asking for anything. I had a year left and that was fine." :yawn:
    Last edited by 419; 14-06-2012 at 13:28.
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    Yep. I feel he may be out of his depth in terms of signings. His tactics are quite negative as well.
    dont know wot levy is thinking arry was our only hope of a further way forward.the only man who can continue wot arry began is jose m who is not coming to spurs.
    so lets face it david moyes can only be a more reliable choice compared to the avb and benitez
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    Here's my initial reaction on this, thoughts welcome.

    Redknapp did a lot of good things for Tottenham. He also fell up woefully short in some key situations. Depending on who you are, his attitudes towards tactics, dealing with players and dealing with the media can be seen as positive or negative. I could tell by the comments in previous threads that Harry Redknapp is a very polarizing figure, and he's only going to get more polarizing if his replacement is anyone but a big name manager with recent trophies to his name.

    Those who think Redknapp was 100 percent lucky in his time with Spurs and that he is an incompetent buffoon are probably crazy. So are people who think that he was a brilliant manager, and that the club will not soon recover from his sacking. Redknapp was a decent manager with a lot of positive qualities and a lot of flaws. We don't know whether or not the next manager will be an upgrade or a downgrade. There's so much to talk about, and yet there's seemingly nothing to talk about at all.

    We'll talk about David Moyes and Roberto Martinez. We'll probably talk about Rafa Benitez and Andre Villas-Boas. We might even talk about Jurgen Klopp. Someone will inevitably want to talk about Gus Poyet. Nick has a Didier Deschamps fixation, while someone will probably want to inform everyone about the greatness that is Thomas Tuchel. Paul Lambert, Brendan Rodgers and Chris Hughton just got new jobs. Whoops on all accounts.

    We'll talk even more about Gareth Bale and Luka Modric. I expect Modric to ask to leave the club. I expect Gareth Bale's agent to plant links to big clubs. I expect teams with money to bid for both of them. What Daniel Levy and a hypothetical new manager will do about it, no one knows.

    That stuff is all really easy to write about, and we'll write about it a lot. But Harry? I have nothing to say about Harry at the moment.

    But I think I'm happy it's over.
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    (Original post by FK)
    Here's my initial reaction on this, thoughts welcome.
    I agree pretty much with what you say.

    For me Harry Redknapp is a manager like Sven Goran Eriksson, he might be a different personality and play different style of football but both in their own ways have been very good at self-promotion and creating the impression that they are better than they are. They are both decent managers but neither in the top class. I was not surprised Hodgson got the England job ahead of him, I think Hodgson is a better manager.

    As for Spurs, I think a downturn in fortunes beckons, although maybe not a freefall. I wouldn't be surprised if Modric and Bale are gone before too long and Spurs lose ground on Chelsea and Arsenal, they may even get pressured by Liverpool.

    Spurs are now well established as one of the top clubs which for a while they weren't, they were up and down the table, sometimes getting into relegation fights, at least those days seem long gone now. However I think a window may be closing of the time when they had a chance to just about nick into the top 2 or 3 and win a trophy or even the Premier League.
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    Re: Tottenham Hotspur Society II
    (Original post by FK)
    Here's my initial reaction on this, thoughts welcome.
    .

    (Original post by MagicNMedicine)
    I agree pretty much with what you say.

    For me Harry Redknapp is a manager like Sven Goran Eriksson, he might be a different personality and play different style of football but both in their own ways have been very good at self-promotion and creating the impression that they are better than they are. They are both decent managers but neither in the top class. I was not surprised Hodgson got the England job ahead of him, I think Hodgson is a better manager.

    As for Spurs, I think a downturn in fortunes beckons, although maybe not a freefall. I wouldn't be surprised if Modric and Bale are gone before too long and Spurs lose ground on Chelsea and Arsenal, they may even get pressured by Liverpool.

    Spurs are now well established as one of the top clubs which for a while they weren't, they were up and down the table, sometimes getting into relegation fights, at least those days seem long gone now. However I think a window may be closing of the time when they had a chance to just about nick into the top 2 or 3 and win a trophy or even the Premier League.
    Tottenham won't go away, but they won't be in the champions league for the foreseeable future, unless arsenal have a poor season, I really really don't see chelsea having a shocker again because that was really down to bad man management and players having no motivation.

    Liverpool, well they'll do better, they'll challenge for top 4 and eventually get it(probably at the expense of arsenal). Harry redknapp was an average manager. He wasn't lucky, he did what he could do with the squad, challenge for top 4, which with his squad was always going to happen, all it took was a poor season from liverpool and tottenham got into the champions league.

    Does anyone remember chelsea 15 years ago, sounds a lot like tottenham, you guys will be lurking around waiting for a team to flop. Tottenham need investment in my view to challenge. Might have a good first team, but the bench is probably the worst from the top 6, only newcastle are worse in my opinion.
    Last edited by jam277; 17-06-2012 at 01:30.
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    Does anyone remember chelsea 15 years ago, sounds a lot like tottenham, you guys will be lurking around waiting for a team to flop. Tottenham need investment in my view to challenge. Might have a good first team, but the bench is probably the worst from the top 6, only newcastle are worse in my opinion.
    I think Tottenham are well placed to attract investment next time someone comes along with megabucks like Abramovich or the Sheikh. A key advantage Spurs have over the likes of Man U, Liverpool, Villa, Everton, Newcastle etc is that if you throw megabucks at any of those others its still hard to attract the blue chip players to those cities because they aren't sexy cities. The big players want to be in the big cities like Milan, Barcelona, Madrid, Rome, Paris, where there's fashion, nightlife, glamour etc. Spurs have the pull of London which can attract anybody. Also I think to a foreign investor it may be easier to get into Spurs than Arsenal which is more English and traditional and perhaps more resistant to outside funding.

    But I agree that without a megabucks investor Spurs will be hovering around just outside the top 4 but with big money they could be champions. I reckon the Sheikh at City could have had more fun at Spurs in terms of who he'd have been able to get and being able to take advantage of Spurs reputation for adventurous football to make an exciting team and maybe Tevez wouldn't have been whinging so much if he lived in London.
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    (Original post by MagicNMedicine)
    I think Tottenham are well placed to attract investment next time someone comes along with megabucks like Abramovich or the Sheikh. A key advantage Spurs have over the likes of Man U, Liverpool, Villa, Everton, Newcastle etc is that if you throw megabucks at any of those others its still hard to attract the blue chip players to those cities because they aren't sexy cities. The big players want to be in the big cities like Milan, Barcelona, Madrid, Rome, Paris, where there's fashion, nightlife, glamour etc. Spurs have the pull of London which can attract anybody. Also I think to a foreign investor it may be easier to get into Spurs than Arsenal which is more English and traditional and perhaps more resistant to outside funding.

    But I agree that without a megabucks investor Spurs will be hovering around just outside the top 4 but with big money they could be champions. I reckon the Sheikh at City could have had more fun at Spurs in terms of who he'd have been able to get and being able to take advantage of Spurs reputation for adventurous football to make an exciting team and maybe Tevez wouldn't have been whinging so much if he lived in London.
    Out of interest, would you guys want a big-money man to come and buy you out? :holmes:
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    Out of interest, would you guys want a big-money man to come and buy you out? :holmes:
    Would have to happen to Arsenal at pretty much exactly the same time for me. Otherwise, no. Morally dubious anyway.
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    Out of interest, would you guys want a big-money man to come and buy you out? :holmes:
    Absolutely not, there is something so plastic and fake about clubs who have that investment (Chelsea & Man City) which, as a genuine lover of my club, I cannot stand. The thing that is great about Tottenham, and why I have a mutual respect for Arsenal in this sense, is that we are run properly. The business doesn't carry huge debt, and we are one of the few remaining clubs who look to do things the right way.

    I love the club, the tradition, the area and the fact we have such a strong hold of support, despite our lack of success in recent years. Investment would cripple that. Yes it might bring success, but I can't see myself enjoying it the same way, with the same sense of achievement.

    On the subject of our future, looking at a couple of the comments above, I don't share the pessimistic view. I think if we get the right manager in place who is firm and knows what he wants, I don't see any reason why we can't continue to progress as we have done. We have money to spend (within reason), a new stadium in the pipeline, and until any of the current 'top' players leave, the same squad. It will be a telling few weeks I think...
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    I find it very sorrowful that for a team to have to challenge these days, money is the decisive factor not good coaching and player developing themselves and their game on the training ground. Really, really sad.

    Hope you guys continue the way you are even if it means lurking around the top 4 and never quite getting it and you won't mind it too much. I for one would rather Arsenal continue finishng 4th or outside top 4 if it means staying away from a sugar daddy.
    Last edited by 419; 17-06-2012 at 15:03.
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    (Original post by FK)
    Absolutely not, there is something so plastic and fake about clubs who have that investment (Chelsea & Man City) which, as a genuine lover of my club, I cannot stand. The thing that is great about Tottenham, and why I have a mutual respect for Arsenal in this sense, is that we are run properly. The business doesn't carry huge debt, and we are one of the few remaining clubs who look to do things the right way.

    I love the club, the tradition, the area and the fact we have such a strong hold of support, despite our lack of success in recent years. Investment would cripple that. Yes it might bring success, but I can't see myself enjoying it the same way, with the same sense of achievement.

    On the subject of our future, looking at a couple of the comments above, I don't share the pessimistic view. I think if we get the right manager in place who is firm and knows what he wants, I don't see any reason why we can't continue to progress as we have done. We have money to spend (within reason), a new stadium in the pipeline, and until any of the current 'top' players leave, the same squad. It will be a telling few weeks I think...

    Agreed. Spurs and Arsenal are examples for the rest to follow.
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    Would have to happen to Arsenal at pretty much exactly the same time for me. Otherwise, no. Morally dubious anyway.
    So if it happened to Arsenal, you'd be fine for it to happen to Spurs? How does that make sense? :p:
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    So if it happened to Arsenal, you'd be fine for it to happen to Spurs? How does that make sense? :p:
    No dunno. Probably wouldn't be happy for it to happen in any case. Haven't really thought about it to be honest :o:
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    :tumble:

    Bale signs new deal. That's what, the fourth deal he's signed since joining you lot?
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    He does seem to sign new deals pretty frequently, good work from Levy to keep him well away from running it down. Likewise, its probably the right move for Bale to stay at Spurs for now.
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    Bale happy for another season, good news for Spurs.

    Benitez and Spurs would fit like a glove, what are peoples thoughts? I've not kept itk regarding this lately. Spurs have players very similar to Liverpool's old side that used to progress in Europe and finish in the top 3. Article on my blog actually talking about Rafa that I did a while back.
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    Apparently AVB looks the most likely candidate to be the manager of Spurs. He could do really well for you lot.

    Look at this, Man Utd and Arsenal fans keeping the Tottenham thread alive.
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    Bale happy for another season, good news for Spurs.

    Benitez and Spurs would fit like a glove, what are peoples thoughts? I've not kept itk regarding this lately. Spurs have players very similar to Liverpool's old side that used to progress in Europe and finish in the top 3. Article on my blog actually talking about Rafa that I did a while back.
    Spurs have played absolutely nothing like how we played under Rafa.


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    To be fair, I have no internet at home and was the last poster, so not going to post two in a row lol then four posts come in in an hour..

    Good news on Bale, though had an inkling he was going to stay anyway. Modders still to go. No idea on the manager.
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    Spurs have played absolutely nothing like how we played under Rafa.


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    I never said they have, mate. (Liverpool fan here). But they have the potential and they seem to play a similar formation to what we did. I think Rafa could turn them into how we played back in the good days. They have a better left sided player than LFC ever had. They have pace down the right too, I think Rafa would need a more defensive winger to compliment that in fairness. Modric, well I don't know where he's going to end up, but you have VDV who could play behind the striker. Not forgetting the other player who can play in the middle.
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