I can categorically say NO, there is No guarantee than you will get a job which is why i'd recommend going down the scholarship route for a CPL. Commercial pilot careers are one of the most sought after, and with jets getting bigger and more technologically efficient, the demand for pilots falls, whereas the supply has increased dramatically over the past few years....therefore competition is fierce and there is no guarantee for a job
(Original post by callum_whitworth)
thanks vicsta is there a definate that you will get the job after paying all that money and completing the schooling
wich options and everything else could you recommend for me?
You're going to have to gain your PPL by yourself, for this your have 3 choices
Private - costs alot but you are free to do what you want
RAF/Army - Free to gain but will require you to payback in the form of service (could be around 5-10 years)
Cadet Scheme - pretty much the same as RAF
My biggest tip is dont choose subjects that will not help you if you choose not to become a pilot i.e. keep doors open for other careers too!
For GCSE I chose, ICT, Geography and Business Studies
and for AS I chose Maths, Physics, Chemistry and Economics
The reason for the total random spread is that I wanted to keep my options open, I have decided that I want to fly for pleasure rather than as a career, so instead I have opted to go into Investment Banking as a career, however my options are so diverse that they will allow me to become a pilot, or banker, or physisist etc...so keep lots of doors open in your career choice
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Dont choose GCSE's on the basis of becoming a pilot. Choose what you enjoy and are likely to be best at. Do the same with A-Levels.
hello, i will soon be choosing my options for my gcse's, my ambition is to be a pilot. but i dont know how to start of my learning to get the levels and gcse's you need
please could someone advice me in what to do.
picking my options
Unless you are going into the millitary (which is only if you want to be a millitary pilot, not to get freebie training) then do not put too much emphasis on becoming a commercial pilot at this time. You technically do not need GCSE's or A-Levels to become an airline pilot, as the vast majority of sponsored cadetships are no longer operating in the UK, and are highly unlikely to return. There are one or two in the Middle East and Asia, and as you can imagine competition is fierce.
There are two ways of sponsoring yourself to attain a Frozen Airline Transport Pilots Licence.
The first being the 'modular' route, by which way you will do all of your ratings at a time and places that suits you. In my opinion the best way, as it can be done for as little as £40,000, and you can work at the same time to fund it and hopefully remain relatively debt free.
The second is the 'intergrated' route. There are a limited number of flight training operators that provide this choice. The premise is that you start as a zero hour and do the full lot in one go (with the vast majority of the flying during a few months in Arizona, New Zealand or Spain). This route tends to cost in excess of £80,000 and does not offer the opportunity to work alongside, so living costs would need to be factored in also. The funding for this can be arranged by a couple of banks, but due to the sheer number of people enrolling on these courses and not getting jobs (so going bankrupt) at the end means that such a loan would have to be secured on a property. A very risky business, particularly when the monthly loan payments would be in excess of £1000 a month.
There are few openings for inexperienced fATPL holders, the main one being Ryanair. To get a job at Ryanair you must pay £30,000 for your type rating and line training. As you can imagine, those having gone the intergrated route would then be in a debt of £110,000 at least, that is assuming Ryanair take you on. As far as i know, Ryanair will take people from both the Intergrated and Modular route, so going the modular way and paying Ryanair for a job could cost less than doing an intergrated course.
In all, becoming a commercial pilot involves the investment of a large sum of money, with no guaranteed job in return. Im sorry if its not what you want to hear at the moment, but things can change.
I would just not advise putting pressure on yourself to chose A-Levels or GCSE's just with a view of becoming an airline pilot. Millitary aviation is slightly different, but you really have to want to be an officer in the RAF (for example) to even consider that route, as they dont want freeloaders and you would struggle to get past the initial assessments.
A very good source of information (from very experienced commercial pilots) is Pprune.org.
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