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  1. therealOG's Avatar
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    Re: The most underrated school in the UK?
    (Original post by viksta1000)
    I think its got to the point now where City is restraining Cass from getting any further recognition

    the only ways forward IMO
    1. City joins UoL
    2. Cass gains independence
    3. City University Board members pull their fingers out and start marketing City as the next LSE
    Which one are you choosing? Kings or Cass?
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    Re: The most underrated school in the UK?
    (Original post by therealOG)
    Which one are you choosing? Kings or Cass?
    King's
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    Re: The most underrated school in the UK?
    Cass
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    Re: The most underrated school in the UK?
    (Original post by viksta1000)
    I think its got to the point now where City is restraining Cass from getting any further recognition

    the only ways forward IMO
    1. City joins UoL
    2. Cass gains independence
    3. City University Board members pull their fingers out and start marketing City as the next LSE
    Good points. The main problem is that there's a huge discrepancy between some City departments and Cass, both in terms of calibre and aspirations. Not everything at City is crap I think. Don't forget, the Actuarial Department only joined Cass later on, it was a department of Mathematics first.
    Psychometric department joined Cambridge,etc....

    1. Won't happen. They've deferred their application to join.
    2. Doubt it.
    3. I think that's the plan, if you look at the entry requirements for most City courses now, they have increased massively. The new VC has got some good ideas, he realises that City (being a uni from 1960s) has seriously underperformed and something fundamentally has to change.
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    Re: The most underrated school in the UK?
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    Good points. The main problem is that there's a huge discrepancy between some City departments and Cass, both in terms of calibre and aspirations. Not everything at City is crap I think. Don't forget, the Actuarial Department only joined Cass later on, it was a department of Mathematics first.
    Psychometric department joined Cambridge,etc....

    1. Won't happen. They've deferred their application to join.
    2. Doubt it.
    3. I think that's the plan, if you look at the entry requirements for most City courses now, they have increased massively. The new VC has got some good ideas, he realises that City (being a uni from 1960s) has seriously underperformed and something fundamentally has to change.
    Yes I have noticed that, both courses that I received offers of AAB this year are now both AAA courses for next year's applicants...but then again, the same is true of the course that i've firmed at King's

    With the amount of press and publicity that Cass gets at the moment, imagine how much they would gain if City were to begin competing with the likes of LSE and Imperial in the fact that it offers specialist degrees/have a business school

    Cass is a definite option for my postgrad, it already has the prestige, however I think if the University can raise its ranking, or Cass begins to dissociate itself away from City (i.e. moving all business students out of Northampton Square) then undergraduate degrees from Cass will see a significant raise in their profile
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    Wow how do you guys know that cass is trying to gain independence from City? I think that'd be great.

    I also notice the course I applied for which I got an offer with AAB is now AAA. Thank god i'm not 1 year younger than I am =)) =))
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    Re: The most underrated school in the UK?
    (Original post by viksta1000)
    I think its got to the point now where City is restraining Cass from getting any further recognition

    the only ways forward IMO
    1. City joins UoL
    2. Cass gains independence
    3. City University Board members pull their fingers out and start marketing City as the next LSE
    I think that joining the UoL would be a big step forward. There's actually a fairly good chance of this happening - City was mounting a bid to join the UoL last year but decided to postpone the bid due to "the strategic changes underway at City and the need to respond flexibly to the challenges of the near future" (according to the UoL's Head of Communications). The UoL would give City a much-needed reputation boost, and the UoL union would supplement the decidedly lacklustre City SU perfectly.

    However, I don't think Cass could really be an independent institution, because it only teaches a handful of degrees, although it's very good at what it does.

    I've spent the last year at City, on the journalism course, which is also very well-reputed in the small and pretty insignificant world of undergraduate journalism. When you're there, you get the feeling that City is very good for a small number of subjects (Cass's specialities, journalism, music, law to a certain extent, nursing), but massively overshadowed by the more prominent London universities as an entire institution. I think, if City was anywhere else in Britain, it would be looked upon far more favourably, but because of its location it's somewhat overlooked. City is a specialist institution in that it really is a university for the professions, which is quite unusual, and it probably suffers in the rankings because of this. It doesn't have a traditional arts department or a science department, just a number of things that it's good at. I'm transferring to UCL to do History next year though, because journalism wasn't all it was cracked up to be.
    Last edited by Spannerhawk; 08-05-2011 at 15:15.
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