The Dark Knight Rises
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto FalconeYes indeedy(Original post by Oh my Ms. Coffey)
Love his acting, isnt the guy who played Eames also playing a role.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto Falcone
Can't pretend to know anything about the character of Alberto Falcone, but I don't think Joseph Gordon-Levitt has the talent to outperform Heath Ledger. I'm sure he'll do a good job and it'll be a good film, just not as good as The Dark Knight. Would love to be proved wrong though.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto Falcone
And Christopher Nolan's directing
Just wait till Ellen Page and Leonardo Dicaprio are cast as well - Inception all over again
Cool though, JGL can really suit the role of the villain (if that's his role) and he's generally a good actor anyway -
Re: The Dark Knight Rises: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto FalconeYes of course, 3 great films there, all memorable, highly engaging and generally regarded as great films - I wasn't implying another Inception would be bad, it's just a funny coincidence some of the same actors are now in TDKR - aand Leo Di Caprio and Ellen page being cast is just a joke ofc(Original post by Muffled Snuffles)
It makes sense. It brings the entire series full circle as his father featured in the first film. It is also keeping with Nolan's universe and ties in with the criminals featuring heavily in each film. Falcone (BB), Maroni (TDK) and now Alberto taking up his father's mantle. They could also have him working with Talia al Ghul.
Why have you singled him out as the one who needs talent to outperform Heath Ledger? Making a comparison is extremely short-sighted considering there are other characters who may well have a bigger role (Bane). And Nolan hasn't let us down so far, so I think you can trust his judgement.
Batman Begins, The Dark Knight and Inception were a success and well liked. Do people actually think that is a bad thing? Michael Caine has been in a lot of Nolan films, and a director casts people who he has had experience working with, and who he thinks are suitable. Still, I agree that Leonardo Di Caprio and Ellen Page (who didn't have much of a role except asking questions) would be going a bit too far.
Some high profile director - actor collaborations are interesting, like Michael Caine and Nolan and now Joseph Gordon Levitt to, I think JGL and Nolan make for good collaborations actually, could do some more mind engaging, 'deep thinking' films -
Re: The Dark Knight Rises: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto FalconeThe Dark Knight was a success because of Heath Ledger. Sure, it was well-crafted, exciting, and all the rest, but the one thing that made it truly great, the thing that set it apart from Batman Begins, was the performance of Heath Ledger. This is just my opinion, but I'm sure many others agree.(Original post by Muffled Snuffles)
Why have you singled him out as the one who needs talent to outperform Heath Ledger? Making a comparison is extremely short-sighted considering there are other characters who may well have a bigger role (Bane). And Nolan hasn't let us down so far, so I think you can trust his judgement.
So when I heard that Nolan's Batman films were continuing, I was interested in who would be the next villain (who appears to be Gordon-Levitt). In any series of films, you'll aim for constant improvement, and I think the only way this can be achieved is if Gordon-Levitt somehow manages to make his character more interesting than The Joker. We already know that Christian Bale will be predictably average in his role, it's the supporting characters who will bring the film to life. -
Re: The Dark Knight Rises: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto FalconeOh, fair enough - didn't realise Falcone probably wouldn't be the central villain. Shows how much I know about Batman!(Original post by Muffled Snuffles)
By the sound of it, whilst Gordon-Levitt will be featuring, he doesn't seem to be having a more central role to the other villains; Bane (Tom Hardy), Talia nor, if you count her as a villain, Selina Kyle.
Alberto is playing a criminal, I don't think there is too much scope for overcoming Joker, or Heath Ledger's talent in TDK. His role will probably parallel to Falcone in Batman Begns and Maroni in TDK - where they were not the central villains at all (Joker and to a lesser extent, Two Face, were)
Indeed, hence why I was getting confused on why you focused on Gordon-Levitt being the one to face the obstacle of overcoming Heath Ledger's character where surely a more central villain like Bane would be expected to live up to the Joker. -
Re: The Dark Knight Rises: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto FalconeI think Marion Cotillard's going to be in it as well.(Original post by Oh my Ms. Coffey)
Love his acting, isnt the guy who played Eames also playing a role.
Now I just need to watch Batman Begins and the Dark Knight. -
Re: The Dark Knight Rises: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto FalconeBane is awesome, but he isn't a mastermind villain who can carry a whole plot, IMO. Alberto is a really good character because most of what he gets up to in the books is completely behind the scenes and mysterious. He is more powerful than he looks.(Original post by Muffled Snuffles)
Neither do I just so I don't come across as a complete arrogant tosser.
I'm going on the assumption he won't be that central due to the casting of Bane (who is a very significant figure) not to mention Talia al Ghul and Catwoman. And the fact that the previous criminal characters (including the father Falcone) who was present in Batman Begins, but was in no way central amidst Ra's al Ghul and Scarecrow.
But I certainly feel it is down to Tom Hardy, as Bane, to 'live up' to the Joker. But Nolan will probably take a route that is very different to the Joker and the role he played in TDK - just so it isn't more of the same, and people don't feel let down by the comparison they will inevitably make. -
Re: The Dark Knight Rises: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto FalconeBoth very good films.(Original post by Pi!)
I think Marion Cotillard's going to be in it as well.
Now I just need to watch Batman Begins and the Dark Knight. -
Re: The Dark Knight Rises: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto Falcone
Bane absolutely is a mastermind villain. He hasn't the education or affectation of some of Batman's other villains, but he's a calculating, manipulative genius, not the mindless, drug-addled brute pretty much every infuriating adaptation ever would have you think.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto FalconeLol Bane in Batman and Robin... I didn't even mind that adaptation of him that much. I'm one of 10 Batman and Robin fans in the world atm(Original post by Christien)
Bane absolutely is a mastermind villain. He hasn't the education or affectation of some of Batman's other villains, but he's a calculating, manipulative genius, not the mindless, drug-addled brute pretty much every infuriating adaptation ever would have you think. -
Re: The Dark Knight Rises: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto Falcone(Original post by lukejoshjedi)
Lol Bane in Batman and Robin... I didn't even mind that adaptation of him that much. I'm one of 10 Batman and Robin fans in the world atm
I'm going to assume you enjoyed it ironically. The alternative is just unfathomable to me.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto FalconeHe's a genius, but his addiction to venom makes him too easy to control. When he's fighting against the stuff, he has worked with Batman, not against him, but as soon as you get the tube into the back of his head his mind goes.(Original post by Muffled Snuffles)
I disagree. Are you passing him off as some brutish hulk? He's a complete genius and mastermind.

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Re: The Dark Knight Rises: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto FalconeHah well yeah sort of... I have a glossy nostalgia of certain films from the 90s including B n R, Alicia Silverstone...(Original post by Christien)
I'm going to assume you enjoyed it ironically. The alternative is just unfathomable to me.
George Clooney, Uma Thurman, even though people say it's one of the worst comic book films, the cast is freakin awesome
what's your most disliked Batman film btw? Batman and Robin I'm guessing lol -
Re: The Dark Knight Rises: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto Falcone(Original post by lukejoshjedi)
Hah well yeah sort of... I have a glossy nostalgia of certain films from the 90s including B n R, Alicia Silverstone...
George Clooney, Uma Thurman, even though people say it's one of the worst comic book films, the cast is freakin awesome
what's your most disliked Batman film btw? Batman and Robin I'm guessing lol
Well, that's understandable. I still have a soft spot for Space Jam, even though it rails against every aspect of my being.
I can't decide between Forever and B&R. Both of the Schumacher films got it wrong on an epic scale. Forever had a better Batman, but mangled Two-Face and the Riddler into caricatures, but B&R mangled everything. I'm no fan of the Burton films either, but I'm no fan of Burton, so I guess that's to be expected. -
Re: The Dark Knight Rises: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto FalconeWell I personally don't think Hardy, Gordon-Levitt, Cotillard, or Hathaway has the talent to get close to Ledger's performance. If my opinion makes me a complete arrogant tosser, then so be it.(Original post by Muffled Snuffles)
Neither do I just so I don't come across as a complete arrogant tosser.
I'm going on the assumption he won't be that central due to the casting of Bane (who is a very significant figure) not to mention Talia al Ghul and Catwoman. And the fact that the previous criminal characters (including the father Falcone) who was present in Batman Begins, but was in no way central amidst Ra's al Ghul and Scarecrow.
But I certainly feel it is down to Tom Hardy, as Bane, to 'live up' to the Joker. But Nolan will probably take a route that is very different to the Joker and the role he played in TDK - just so it isn't more of the same, and people don't feel let down by the comparison they will inevitably make. -
Re: The Dark Knight Rises: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto Falcone
According to this he is in it, but not as Falcone... Guess we'll have to keep waiting for an official announcement (unless that site isn't overly factual, I don't know much about film websites...)
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises: Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto FalconeEW is about as reputable as Variety.(Original post by Vekeh)
According to this he is in it, but not as Falcone... Guess we'll have to keep waiting for an official announcement (unless that site isn't overly factual, I don't know much about film websites...)


I'm going on the assumption he won't be that central due to the casting of Bane (who is a very significant figure) not to mention Talia al Ghul and Catwoman. And the fact that the previous criminal characters (including the father Falcone) who was present in Batman Begins, but was in no way central amidst Ra's al Ghul and Scarecrow.
George Clooney, Uma Thurman, even though people say it's one of the worst comic book films, the cast is freakin awesome