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  1. Aj12's Avatar
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    Really not fond of the extended cut. It fixes the piss poor previous ending. But it should not have been needed in the first place. And it still doesn't fix the main point of these crappy endings, none of your choices from the 3 games make any difference to the final ending. You don't find out how any of your choices panned out.
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    I think I'm pretty satisfied with the destroy ending as it is now. It's not perfect but to me it is the only one that makes sense. The game is based in an extremely technologically advanced world, and in that context, a beam to destroy the Reapers sent through the galaxy via the Mass Relays seems somewhat viable. Control and synthesis, on the other hand, seem like they are beyond technology. They're too magical, and I don't think they belong in the Mass Effect universe at all.

    If I ever do decide to replay this game, I'll be choosing the destroy ending without a doubt.
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    If you're reading this....then there is still hope.
    Hope that you can avoid the same mistakes we made.
    We fought BioWare, but we failed to stop them.
    We did everything we could. We created threads, but it didn't work. We fought as a united fanbase, but it wasn't enough.
    I only hope the information in this post is enough to help you before it's too late.
    My username is I Kant Spall. Herein lies why you should never buy a future BioWare game.


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    Nah, but the refusal ending/shoot-the-kid ending was a huge disappointment. It was basically a middle finger from BioWare to all the fans who didn't accept one of their three ingeniously-crafted creative endings. Accepting a false trichotomy, one of the Star ****'s endings, would be foolish.

    "You don't like our endings? **** you, everyone dies."
  4. TM94's Avatar
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    My thoughts on the ending...
    Vastly improved in my opinion, repairing most of the damage done by the horrendous original endings.
    -Fully explained how your squad got 'magically' on the Normandy, I took Liara as my love interest in my squad so it was a fairly emotional scene. :moon:
    -Shepherd doesn't just stand there like a gnome when the boy is spouting his ****, instead he questions and argues.
    -The photo montages were pretty cool as well, especially the Krogan babies and Zaeed sunbathing :lol:
    -Even seeing the mass relays being repaired and the rebuilding process of the galaxy made it a lot better.
    -I chose the destroy ending because well I still believed in the Indoctrination Theory and to be honest it was what I felt Shepherd would realistically do. I got the 'perfect' ending as well with Liara not putting Shepherd's name on the Normandy R.I.P list and Shepherd still presumably alive with the gasping breath.
    - The control ending looked really cool, Shepherd as a Reaper God :sogood: :nooo:, surreal how in that ending the Reapers actually helped the rebuilding process :rofl2: :teehee:
    BUT...
    -I still don't understand why Shepherd in that 'perfect ending' is buried underneath concrete and stuff when he was on the Citadel? :lolwut:
    -The Reaper Indoctrination Theory was awesome though :sogood:, kind of disappointed BioWare didn't just run with that
    -Synthesis ending is still really stupid.
    -The forced three, sorry four :grumble: choices is still really annoying and it doesn't take into account any of choices you made.
    I probably won't ever replay Mass Effect 3 because there is no reason to, none of my choices really mattered and although the original endings have been improved it still isn't enough IMO.
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    I chose Synthesis. How could I destroy EDI?! :eek:

    I know. It was all space magic nonsense, but it made me want to mail death threats written on my ME games discs slightly less. Slightly less.

    What pissed me off almost as much as the ending was the treatment of Thane. So I can magically fuse synthetics/organics into a new species by jumping into a beam of light, but no one could find a cure for Keprals syndrome?! :lolwut:
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    I don't want to argue with people about the extended endings but one thing is puzzling me a bit.

    Pre-extended cut, much of the rage was about..
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    Joker flying off. Pretty much everyone agreed that it was out of character. Hell, you have a whole squad willing to die with you in ME2, then suddenly in ME3 some of those same squadmates want to FO and leave you there.

    Now, in the extended cut video that I saw, they add in a bit where someone tells Joker to leave. I don't know if the person changes based on relationship rating or not, but the one I saw had Garrus doing it.. Which made even less sense to me. Garrus is a bro. He's not going to tell anyone to leave Shep behind. He'd jump out the airlock with a rope or something like Indiana Jones on crack. Why are people OK with Joker flying away now?


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    -The photo montages were pretty cool as well, especially the Krogan babies
    That bit was pretty cute, to be fair.. I am glad there weren't any blue babies though. Yeah, FU Liara fans

    (Original post by smwilf)
    What pissed me off almost as much as the ending was the treatment of Thane. So I can magically fuse synthetics/organics into a new species by jumping into a beam of light, but no one could find a cure for Keprals syndrome?! :lolwut:
    Thane's treatment was unreal. They got involved in the whole "save Thane" campaign and whatnot, they dropped hints about transplants, they had him take on a total personality shift if you romanced him.. And then retconned all of that with his tiny bit of hospital speech. What a waste, he was an interesting character.
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    So is the Indoctrination theory definetly incorrect now? If so, what BS! Why did Bioware include so many clues indicating Shepard had been indoctrinated if he hadn't really? Or is there going to be yet another DLC, this time showing the real real ending? :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Super Cicero)
    So is the Indoctrination theory definetly incorrect now? If so, what BS! Why did Bioware include so many clues indicating Shepard had been indoctrinated if he hadn't really? Or is there going to be yet another DLC, this time showing the real real ending? :rolleyes:
    The indoctrination theory was stupid anyway. There weren't any clues, that was just people seeing things that weren't there.
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    Nah, but the refusal ending/shoot-the-kid ending was a huge disappointment. It was basically a middle finger from BioWare to all the fans who didn't accept one of their three ingeniously-crafted creative endings. Accepting a false trichotomy, one of the Star ****'s endings, would be foolish.

    "You don't like our endings? **** you, everyone dies."
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    I've seen other people say this and I disagree with it.

    I don't see it as Bioware giving everyone the middle finger. It was suggested by the characters during the game that it was impossible to beat the Reapers in a conventional way. If you choose not to use the Crucible, then based on what had already been said, they were going to lose the war.

    I don't know if people were expecting people to be able to beat the Reapers without the Crucible, or something else?


    The extended cut wasn't perfect, but it's much better than what we had before. A few strange things were explained. I'm satisfied.
  10. Logan's Avatar
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    I hated the indoctrination theory. Its as full of holes as the literal ending that Bioware gave us.

    I'm not too fussed about whether our actions on the past two games made any difference. This is mainly because when Mass Effect 2 ended and if the star was glowing blue or red in the back depending on your morality did not make sense/did not make any effect to mass effect 3 at all... I've surrendered thinking that I will see all the impacts my previous decisions have on the ultimate ending of the series.

    Having said that, I still love this game. Not a lot of games get me attached to characters as much as this did.

    I blame EA.
  11. Hylean's Avatar
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    People who don't understand how the choices affect the ending should check out the original differences between endings based on the Galatic Readiness Metre. I've no idea how it changes now, with the new ending, which I won't get to view til August.
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    Late to the party and just got it. :woo: (ME3)
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    Don't know if anybody cares, but Bioware are allowing people to download the Extended Cut soundtrack for free from their website as long as you have an account. http://social.bioware.com/me3ecsoundtrack.php
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    I think I'm pretty satisfied with the destroy ending as it is now. It's not perfect but to me it is the only one that makes sense. The game is based in an extremely technologically advanced world, and in that context, a beam to destroy the Reapers sent through the galaxy via the Mass Relays seems somewhat viable. Control and synthesis, on the other hand, seem like they are beyond technology. They're too magical, and I don't think they belong in the Mass Effect universe at all.

    If I ever do decide to replay this game, I'll be choosing the destroy ending without a doubt.
    I agree 100% with this

    Plus the destroy option is the only one that fits with Shepard's personality IMO

    I personally think even with the extended cut ending, it's a terrible way to end the game. It's hard to please everyone though I guess.

    My perfect ending would not have involved that retarded "Godchild" and the bit after The Illusive Man dies, just have Shepard activate the console and the Reapers die with epic music playing in the background. Simple but effective.

    It got all to "magical" and "mythological" towards the end. Kinda pissed me off a bit.

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    Also, dunno why they included the alternate ending where you basically tell the Godchild to **** off, that's an even worse ending lol
  15. zKlown's Avatar
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    (Original post by Super Cicero)
    So is the Indoctrination theory definetly incorrect now? If so, what BS! Why did Bioware include so many clues indicating Shepard had been indoctrinated if he hadn't really? Or is there going to be yet another DLC, this time showing the real real ending? :rolleyes:
    Indoctrination theory was basically aload of BS anyway if you ask me and the extended cut proves that.

    If the Indoctrination Theory is at all true, why would the reapers allow Shepard to choose the destroy option?
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    Also, dunno why they included the alternate ending where you basically tell the Godchild to **** off, that's an even worse ending lol
    That was basically Bioware's way of saying: "So you don't like the 3 endings we gave you, do you a*****? Well **** you, if you don't pick one of our endings, guess what... everyone dies!"


    (Original post by zKlown)
    Indoctrination theory was basically aload of BS anyway if you ask me and the extended cut proves that.

    If the Indoctrination Theory is at all true, why would the reapers allow Shepard to choose the destroy option?
    You're misunderstanding the Indoctrination Theory. All the stuff on the citadel isn't real, according to the theory. Shepard is still lying knocked out from when they were all running towards the beam in London. The whole choice between destroy/synthesis/control is all in Shepard's mind - whether he can overcome the indoctrination or not. (If the Indoctrination theory isn't true then how come Shepard becomes a husk while he's falling if you choose the Control ending, which is giving in and going against everything Shepard was fighting for). That's why, when you do the Destroy Ending, you see Shepard inhaling on the ground amongst loads of rubble - because he's awoken having defeated the Reapers' mind game.

    But alas, it seems the Indoctrination theory isn't true according to Bioware
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    (Original post by Super Cicero)
    That was basically Bioware's way of saying: "So you don't like the 3 endings we gave you, do you a*****? Well **** you, if you don't pick one of our endings, guess what... everyone dies!"




    You're misunderstanding the Indoctrination Theory. All the stuff on the citadel isn't real, according to the theory. Shepard is still lying knocked out from when they were all running towards the beam in London. The whole choice between destroy/synthesis/control is all in Shepard's mind - whether he can overcome the indoctrination or not. (If the Indoctrination theory isn't true then how come Shepard becomes a husk while he's falling if you choose the Control ending, which is giving in and going against everything Shepard was fighting for). That's why, when you do the Destroy Ending, you see Shepard inhaling on the ground amongst loads of rubble - because he's awoken having defeated the Reapers' mind game.

    But alas, it seems the Indoctrination theory isn't true according to Bioware
    I think the whole "Shepard becomes a husk" thing isn't intentional, it's just people clutching at straws to prove this theory correct, but like we've concluded it's not true anyway.

    Just gone and got the first one again, I'm gonna do a new character all the way through trying to keep everyone alive etc. I never imported a character from the first one into the second one so Wrex was dead for two games which is not acceptable lol.
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    I've finally got ME3 and as it's a second hand copy didn't get any DLC. Is the online any good? I don't want to spend 800 MP on something rubbish.

    Also, I really want to get the Prothean because I want to see how cool he is and what he adds to the game. Is it worth it?
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    (Original post by Aust1n)
    I've finally got ME3 and as it's a second hand copy didn't get any DLC. Is the online any good? I don't want to spend 800 MP on something rubbish.

    Also, I really want to get the Prothean because I want to see how cool he is and what he adds to the game. Is it worth it?
    People seem to like the multiplayer, but I thought it was really boring and repetitive. I immediately stopped playing it once I got the achievements from multiplayer and boosted my galactic readiness.

    Also the Prothean is pretty cool if you are a massive Mass Effect fan. He fills in a bit of the backstory and he has a lot of cool dialogue scenes/interactions with NPCs if you take him along with you in your party. I wouldn't really class it as a necessary purchase though. If you have the 800MSP already then I'd definitely spend it on him instead of the multiplayer, otherwise...meh.
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    (Original post by rich2606)
    People seem to like the multiplayer, but I thought it was really boring and repetitive. I immediately stopped playing it once I got the achievements from multiplayer and boosted my galactic readiness.

    Also the Prothean is pretty cool if you are a massive Mass Effect fan. He fills in a bit of the backstory and he has a lot of cool dialogue scenes/interactions with NPCs if you take him along with you in your party. I wouldn't really class it as a necessary purchase though. If you have the 800MSP already then I'd definitely spend it on him instead of the multiplayer, otherwise...meh.
    Cheers. I'll give the MP a miss then and get the extra character.
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