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    I haven't seen much of Nishikori or Raonic, what sort of standards are they?


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    (Original post by D-Box)
    I haven't seen much of Nishikori or Raonic, what sort of standards are they?


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    Raonic had a very good match against Tsonga at the Olympics, losing after more than 40 games in the 3rd set. When he beat Murray earlier this year he looked pretty good aswell. Nishikori beat Ferrer at the olympics and he was looking pretty good too. Couldn't handle del potro though!
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    Tsonga and Del Potro are both out. Murray has Raonic next. Could be very interesting but given the form Murray is in he should win.
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    (Original post by TheMagicRat)
    Tsonga and Del Potro are both out. Murray has Raonic next. Could be very interesting but given the form Murray is in he should win.
    Perhaps, but remember Murray will be knackered, the Olympics win was only this Sunday then he has only been in Canada for a few days so has jetlag. He was showing signs of tiredness yesterday although he won with ease. His knee doesn't like the sudden surface change either.
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    Can't wait for the US Open. If Federer meets Nadal and loses, Nadal will once again beat Federer in a hard-court slam.

    It's the most anticipated match-up; what are the implications of Nadal leading the hard-court slam H2H 3-0? I think when Federer and Nadal have both retired, it'll come down to two big records: number of slams, and number of Masters 1000 titles.
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    Rafa's pulled out of Cincinnati Starting to look more and more likely that he'll pull out of the US Open aswell.

    Man I miss Rafa, the tour isn't the same without him IMO :sigh:
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    I don't think he'll pull out of the US Open, he's defending 1200 ranking points, which is a huge chunk of his points for the rest of the season.

    He'll probably have a very light end of season afterwards though.
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    Yeah it is quite sad, it never seems like everyone peaks at once
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    True, I wouldn't fancy him defending those points even if he does play though what with his lack of match practice.

    And now Murray's withdrawn from Toronto. They're dropping like flies! But that's what happens when it's scheduled the week after the Olympics :rolleyes: I was looking forward to his match against Raonic aswell Surely the tournament is Nole's for the taking?
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    So annoying! I was also looking forward to that match...
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    Murray won quite a bit at the end of the season last year...3 tournaments on the trot or so? Does anyone remember approximately how many ranking points they were worth? My gut feeling is not huge amounts, but they made up for it with silly trophies?
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    Don't know if anyone's noticed but Nadal has just withdrawn from Cincinnati. He's not looking good for the US open.
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    (Original post by Rachael.)
    Rafa's pulled out of Cincinnati Starting to look more and more likely that he'll pull out of the US Open aswell.

    Man I miss Rafa, the tour isn't the same without him IMO :sigh:
    Certainly isn't - the tennis at the Olympics was great but, it's just not the same without Rafa there.

    Really not looking good long term for Rafa, almost certain that he'll be no.4 in the next couple of months and maybe even lower by the end of the year.
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    I doubt he'll get lower than 4 unless Ferrer or Tsonga has a blinder of an ending to the season.
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    (Original post by Sirocco11)
    Certainly isn't - the tennis at the Olympics was great but, it's just not the same without Rafa there.

    Really not looking good long term for Rafa, almost certain that he'll be no.4 in the next couple of months and maybe even lower by the end of the year.
    How on earth would he fall as far as no.5 by the end of the year? 3,500 points between him and the current no.5 is gigantic. Probably no.4, sure, but no.5?
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    (Original post by TopHat)
    How on earth would he fall as far as no.5 by the end of the year? 3,500 points between him and the current no.5 is gigantic. Probably no.4, sure, but no.5?
    Perhaps that was an overstatement, I hadn't really looked at the gap between Ferrer and Murray currently. But he has a lot of points to defend at the US, and points here and there at some of the Masters events which will mean if he does drop to no.4 that he might also be dropping off the top 3 if he doesn't get some match wins under his belt.
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    Hope Rafa doesn't pull out the US Open. Although not his best surface, it just doesn't feel right to not have the top 4 in the semis.
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    (Original post by .eXe)
    Hope Rafa doesn't pull out the US Open. Although not his best surface, it just doesn't feel right to not have the top 4 in the semis.
    The top 4 don't have a god given right to be in the semis- it's the players that perform best in the tournament that deserve to be there. At the moment it looks like Del Potro's got a decent shot but we'll see where everyone is next week in Cincy.
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    (Original post by kbountra)
    The top 4 don't have a god given right to be in the semis- it's the players that perform best in the tournament that deserve to be there. At the moment it looks like Del Potro's got a decent shot but we'll see where everyone is next week in Cincy.
    True but Federer vs Djokovic and Murray vs Nadal are always the most entertaining semi matchups to watch. Although I would like to see Del Potro to do well too.


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    Murray vs Nadal is never a good semi match up. Murray's playstyle just does not gel well against Nadal, it's a dull match-up. Federer-Murray and Djokovic-Nadal is always much more interesting.
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