[redalert]

There is no 'insight' to be had - they're basically the same. Choose on basis of location, price or where your firm/firms you like specify for LPC.

[peachmelba]

(Original post by redalert)
There is no 'insight' to be had - they're basically the same. Choose on basis of location, price or where your firm/firms you like specify for LPC.

Agree with this having experienced CoL for GDL and BPP for LPC.

[CurlyWurlyRach]

im at CoL and very happy with everything. Nice facilities, helpful tutors and i really like all the e-learning as i fit it in round my jobs.

[twistedmoose]

@ BPP Waterloo part-time and do like BPP - Mr Tort (aka John Clifford) is awesome.

[tabbycat1]

Does anyone have any views about whether CoL's Legal Aid route is substantively different from just choosing legal aid friendly electives like family/immigration at BPP? Ideally I would go to CoL, but it means extra time and money commuting to York, instead of going to BPP in Leeds, where I live and I don't know whether it's worth it. I want to work in High Street/legal aid firms in the future.

Any opinions on this would really be appreciated!

[jjarvis]

(Original post by The West Wing)
I'm pretty happy with BPP. I have no problems recommending it.

Thought you were hating the LPC? Enjoying things a bit more now?

[jjarvis]

(Original post by The West Wing)
Oh, not at all. But my issue is with the course content (which I maintain is ridiculous and pointless). BPP delivers it pretty well and they are very considerate about us. Whenever something is really stupid they are clear in passing the blame on to the SRA.

(e.g. how to look up cases in hard copy. If it's an old case you have to look at the physical copy of the year it was published and then look in every single yearbook after that to see if it's been updated. It can take a good 30 minutes/40 minutes just to find and update a single case!)

How many solicitors in practice would actually do that?!

[The West Wing]

(Original post by jjarvis)
How many solicitors in practice would actually do that?!

We were offered the examples of ones which don't have computers, ones that don't subscribe to Westlaw, and when you have to do work when there's a power cut.

So obviously the firms we're going to

My main issue with the LPC is a personal one though and it's probably more my problem than anyone else's. In the first few weeks I was told off for analysing things unnecessarily and any attempt I made at trying to challenge something in the materials they were shot down quickly in a manner which suggested I should shut up and get on with the box ticking exercise or rearranging cards in the right order exercise. I've realise now that the best way to learn the LPC is to relinquish control to BPP and just do what they want, which involves doing all the box ticking exercises they make you do.

[CurlyWurlyRach]

(Original post by tabbycat1)
Does anyone have any views about whether CoL's Legal Aid route is substantively different from just choosing legal aid friendly electives like family/immigration at BPP? Ideally I would go to CoL, but it means extra time and money commuting to York, instead of going to BPP in Leeds, where I live and I don't know whether it's worth it. I want to work in High Street/legal aid firms in the future.

Any opinions on this would really be appreciated!

I went to a meeting about this recently and it basically involves taking at least 2 out of 3 related electives and doing some further workshops and a portfolio type thing of pro bono that don't sound too onerous. I will dig out the handout if you want?

[jacketpotato]

(Original post by The West Wing)
We were offered the examples of ones which don't have computers, ones that don't subscribe to Westlaw, and when you have to do work when there's a power cut.

So obviously the firms we're going to

My main issue with the LPC is a personal one though and it's probably more my problem than anyone else's. In the first few weeks I was told off for analysing things unnecessarily and any attempt I made at trying to challenge something in the materials they were shot down quickly in a manner which suggested I should shut up and get on with the box ticking exercise or rearranging cards in the right order exercise. I've realise now that the best way to learn the LPC is to relinquish control to BPP and just do what they want, which involves doing all the box ticking exercises they make you do.

Not to worry, it gets more interesting and challenging in Stage 2

[nulli tertius]

(Original post by The West Wing)

(e.g. how to look up cases in hard copy. If it's an old case you have to look at the physical copy of the year it was published and then look in every single yearbook after that to see if it's been updated. It can take a good 30 minutes/40 minutes just to find and update a single case!)

I beg your pardon.

Please introduce your tutor to:

The Digest

http://denning.law.ox.ac.uk/lrsp/pri...w_indexes5.php

and The Current Law Case Citator

http://denning.law.ox.ac.uk/lrsp/pri...w_indexes4.php

The first editor of The Digest was Lord Halsbury and Current Law has been around since the 40s. They are not exactly a radical new idea!

[jjarvis]

(Original post by nulli tertius)
I beg your pardon.

Please introduce your tutor to:

The Digest

http://denning.law.ox.ac.uk/lrsp/pri...w_indexes5.php

and The Current Law Case Citator

http://denning.law.ox.ac.uk/lrsp/pri...w_indexes4.php

The first editor of The Digest was Lord Halsbury and Current Law has been around since the 40s. They are not exactly a radical new idea!

Actually, this is true. We were even taught about this here in our session on print sources.

[legalenthusiast]

(Original post by jjarvis)
Thought you were hating the LPC? Enjoying things a bit more now?

i may be a former brand manager at bpp but I would still heartily recommend their course. They offer so many different ways to get involved in the law from networking, to pro bono to well delivered course content that is largely challenging and applicable (i know this from my law internship this summer). and if you do miss anything they offer loads of useful ways to catch up! Definitely BPP!

[jjarvis]

(Original post by legalenthusiast)
i may be a former brand manager at bpp but I would still heartily recommend their course. They offer so many different ways to get involved in the law from networking, to pro bono to well delivered course content that is largely challenging and applicable (i know this from my law internship this summer). and if you do miss anything they offer loads of useful ways to catch up! Definitely BPP!

No need to sell me on the, I don't really have a choice!

[tabbycat1]

(Original post by CurlyWurlyRach)
I went to a meeting about this recently and it basically involves taking at least 2 out of 3 related electives and doing some further workshops and a portfolio type thing of pro bono that don't sound too onerous. I will dig out the handout if you want?

That would be great if you could, thanks so much.

[cbbg]

(Original post by Redemption)
Why would someone self-fund the GDL or LPC? I just don't get it.

I'd develop an argument to back that up, but I think it's really pretty self-explanatory to anyone bright enough to work in law.

Why self-fund? Some people have more than enough money to do so. It's certainly not an obscene fee like the typical $150,000+ for 3 years of law school in the US.

If you're including parent/guardian funding in your notion of self-funding, would you care to elaborate on your claim?

I assume that you're not talking about obtaining funding from a law firm, as securing a training contract before embarking on the GDL+LPC is 'highly unlikely', to put it lightly.

And if you're referring to some of the loan schemes out there, are there any that you would particularly recommend from your experience?

[olka1211]

Hello, I'm planning to study LLB full time. Got an offers from BPP, the college of law, uni of Westminster and birkbeck. Anyone could help to make a decision? Overall... What will good in my Cv and open doors, where they will teach clear and properly and in general how it is?


Many thanks


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[jjarvis]

(Original post by The College of Law)
Hi olka1211!

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Our LL.B has been endorsed by leading law firms such as Allen & Overy, and both Dechert and Pannone are offering scholarships for the course.

The course is designed to give you the best possible start to your career as a modern lawyer, and you'll learn the law in a practical, professional context. Our tutors have unrivalled experience of training students for legal careers, and you will benefit from direct, face-to-face access with practising lawyers - find out more here.

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Not to make things difficult for you--but how do any of these distinguish CoL from BPP? All of the points I've highlighted in bold are characteristics which BPP also has. It's mildly disingenuous, if something which most LPC providers do, to suggest that other LPC providers don't offer the same things. (Law firms do the same thing, in that they tend to sell themselves with generalities which are shared with other firms.)

That said, how is CoL different from BPP, apart from having slightly different former/practising lawyers as its tutors?

[olka1211]

I do understand that it is impossible to compare Universities. They cannot pleased everyone, however the information I wanted to find out are for example which one of the schools (The college of Law, BPP, Birkbeck or maybe different one) will look better in CV and open more doors, what is the difference between Uni and College and what is better. And in general if I asked you if you recommend University of Oxford or South Bank, I think I would hear many opinions. That is kind of things I want to know. And what would you choose if you had that choice?