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Why do Brits have this arrogance that certain jobs are beneath them?

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If you have the capability to do a skilled job and have finished university or whatever, what's wrong with refusing to be a burger flipper, a cleaner or a fruit picker exactly? Fair enough do those jobs when you're in education or are a poor family or have no qualifications or skills. Better that than unemployed.

But who pays £20,000 and works hard for three years of their life to settle for that? It's not arrogance. It's called ambition. High horses. It's time to come off them.
Reply 21
Original post by withintemptation
Just out of interest, say you lost your job and there was absolutely nothing in your field available you just would not get a job?


I'd do whatever. I've done all sorts of supposedly "crap" jobs in the past. Data entry, shelf stacker, farmhand, construction: you name it, I've done it.

because ANY job is better than sitting at home like a ****ing loser.
Original post by Cesar Lecat
Like I said, fine, turn the job down. Every one has that right. But then why have the cheek to complain that the "immigrants" are taking the jobs. :confused: When is the last time you saw a polish person working as a manager in M&S? :s-smilie:



There are some cases where it makes sense to complain, lots of immigrants will work under minimum wage so are effectively making it impossible for a british person to get the job.

And, if there are an unlimited supply of workers for employers to pick from, it means that the workers cannot stand up to the companies. If foreigners didnt come here are take the low skilled jobs, the employers offering them would be forced to improve conditions so that the staff would come. The unlimited supply of staff means that conditions never improve.
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Original post by Cesar Lecat
Again, fair enough. But then why complain when immigrants from say Eastern Europe take those jobs? As it's in the case in that video. The employers have to employ people to do the jobs or they'll be out of business.

If you watched that video, those idiots were turning down jobs that were well above the national rate. They said they were desperate, but not desperate enough it seems.


The employers would rather take-on an employee who would work for less pay, and so people from other foreign countries are the rich pickings, because the employer knows how much they need the job.

If the rate of pay for these jobs were above the national rate then they really should have taken them. What were these jobs? And what hours were specified?
Original post by Stefan1991
Jobs aren't there to stimulate your pseudo-intellect, they are there to stimulate the economy and do things useful to society.

If no one needs IT specialists, but they do need fruit pickers and you refuse to do it, you are official worthless and your intellect means nothing to everyone else.


Pseudo-intellect? :eyeball: :p:

I'd argue that jobs aren't there to do anything other than make others richer...

Either way, if IT specialists are no longer required, then I'd have to assume that society has shifted massively to a technologically independent way of life. If that is the case, the of course I'd do something like fruit picking (done that before too), but at that point in time, with society having shifted so massively, I think it'd be a case of do this work or die tbh.
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Original post by py0alb
I'd do whatever. I've done all sorts of supposedly "crap" jobs in the past. Data entry, shelf stacker, farmhand, construction: you name it, I've done it.

because ANY job is better than sitting at home like a ****ing loser.


How is a construction job a dead-end job? You get payed £8 plus an hour on some of these construction jobs. Sure, shelf-stacking is crap but I know at Asda near me one of the stackers get £6 an hour. Doesn't seem like much of a dead-end to me.
Reply 26
its bad
Reply 27
Original post by Martyn*
How is a construction job a dead-end job? You get payed £8 plus an hour on some of these construction jobs. Sure, shelf-stacking is crap but I know at Asda near me one of the stackers get £6 an hour. Doesn't seem like much of a dead-end to me.



I didn't say it was. I was just giving an example of something I had done persoanlly that some people on here might be inclined to look down on. It was actually a really fun job. In some ways I wish I still had a physical, outdoors job like that rather than sitting at a desk all day.
Reply 28
Some Brits are the scum of the earth.
The reason why we had so much immigration in the last decade is because people are paid more on benefits than what they would get working on/near the minimum wage.

I've had to take crap jobs in order to pay the bills at the end of the month and anything is better than being unemployed.

If there is no demand for the skills you currently have, tough luck pal, no-one should have to pay taxes in order to pay your bills for you because a job washing dishes or whatever is beneath you.
Reply 30
I am a firm believer that people who sign on, and then refuse jobs, or dont make a decent effort i.e not going into an interview with the right attitude or clothing shouldnt be allowed to claim job seekers for X ammount of weeks. That would soon get people into jobs.. they would be begging to be paid £7 an hour to pick some Veg.

Society it to weak on people these days.. everyone has too many rights. The only real rights you need are the right to life, and a right to a fair trial. and the welfare system is too lucrative.

The economically inactive people only have themselfs to blame, its not my fault or my friends fault they dont have jobs... no one forced them not to turn up to school, no one is forcing them to crack a tinnie out in the middle of the day in front of a camera doing research in front of a job centre . Its not my fault they cant be arsed to catch a bus to the next nearest town and see what jobs are available there.
Benefits in this country are far too high and a disincentive to work.
i swear i know the second guy with the blonde hair...
It's just laziness. They want the easy way to make money than to start from the bottom and work up.
Reply 34
A lot of people stick there noses up at Mechanics calling us "Grease Monkeys". If it wasn't for us grease monkeys the whole world would come to a stand still.
I'd take any job as long as it meant i wasn't on the dole.
Reply 35
Original post by Cesar Lecat
You get that all the time, people who don't have jobs don't want to jobs that are "beneath" them and which they don't consider worthy. Yet when an immigrant takes it, it's all "TEY TURKING ER JURBS" :biggrin:

A classic example is the video I will show you. It was showin on the BBC a few years ago. You can watch the whole video, but I will only post part 6 of 7. In this part, brits are offered jobs, look at their reaction......



Now me personally, I'd have taken that job as part time while at Uni. £7 an hour? I'll bite your hands for that. :wink:

Furthermore Evan Davis made a documentary about a scenario if the "immigrants" left. It's called the Day the Immigrants left". You can youtube that and watch it there. It's pretty interesting. One thing I remember was that 4 of them were offered jobs in an indian restaurant and only 1 turned up, the others made excuses of being ill :biggrin:

However the point I'm trying to make is, why do people refuse to take jobs? If you refuse to take a job, you have no right to complain. As the saying goes, beggers can't be choosers, and rightly so.


totally agree with you mate!
Because they are wastemen.
Reply 37
Original post by Stefan1991

Original post by Stefan1991
Jobs aren't there to stimulate your pseudo-intellect, they are there to stimulate the economy and do things useful to society.

If no one needs IT specialists, but they do need fruit pickers and you refuse to do it, you are official worthless and your intellect means nothing to everyone else.


What gave you the impression that they care if their intellect means nothing to anyone but themselves?

I've acquired a lot of knowledge from my English Language course that I find fascinating and I like to learn and talk about it. However, the majority of people don't care about what I learn, doesn't make it worthless though.
Reply 38
Original post by usainlightning
Benefits in this country are far too high and a disincentive to work.


Explain?
Reply 39
Original post by morecambebay
There are some cases where it makes sense to complain, lots of immigrants will work under minimum wage so are effectively making it impossible for a british person to get the job.

And, if there are an unlimited supply of workers for employers to pick from, it means that the workers cannot stand up to the companies. If foreigners didnt come here are take the low skilled jobs, the employers offering them would be forced to improve conditions so that the staff would come. The unlimited supply of staff means that conditions never improve.


Basically its the immigrants fault! (love the british mentality!)

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