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    (Original post by BlackVenom321)
    This is so true, people need to just get on with it. If you really want to make something happen and loose weight you will do it. it's not easy it takes discipline and commitment but that is all just a test of your will and disire to achieve what you want. Like i said if you are a big girl( I like big girls btw) and you want to be slim you can do it, so there's no use blaming slim girls for you feeling shyt.

    We are all insecrure about something but we all dont complain about it whenever we get the chance
    T H I S.

    If you want it...you've got to work for it

    I dont get the whole ..blame the media for their models etc....if you were happy with yoursleves you wouldnt blame them for looking good. It's only probably not good for young girls/ young teenagers.
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    (Original post by Mazty)
    Actually it's ingrained human nature, not social pressure, that tells you what is attractive:
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=1450150
    People know exactly how attractive they are (Mate Selection Theory) and so you would know how attractive you are regardless of if their was anyone else on the planet or not (as you judge yourself in the same way you would judge others in terms of attraction - and a lot of what is deemed attractive is subconscious), meaning it's nothing to do with social pressure.

    I do still think social pressure does play a part in people's insecurities, not solely responsible obviously but it does have an effect IMO... like I said, it's not just physical attractiveness, it applies to people striving to get the best degrees and the best jobs and earning the most money as well as wanting to be the thinnest, the prettiest, the most stylish...
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    Whilst some of it is nature, clearly some of it is also social, otherwise you wouldn't get "trends" in weight. I think girls focus on their appearances quite a lot and that why they're so sensitive about it. Also because people tend to make assumptions about your personality based on your weight ("fat people are lazy and have no discipline" etc etc) whereas they tend to do it less or not at all for things like height.
    I used to be very very conscious of my weight, but now I'm really not at all. Thank god.
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    (Original post by Mazty)
    You are so wrong it's hilarious. You do realise the drive to be thin and attractive is not society but nature?
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=1450150
    If you are unhappy with how you look it is because you know you don't look good. Stop trying to blame other people for the hard truth that is in the mirror.
    LOL, people like you make me laugh. What gives you the impression I am unhappy with the way I look? In no way am I blaming anyone else for the 'hard truth in the mirror?' Are you SERIOUSLY telling me that society has no role whatsoever in people's insecurities? Nature actually says women with baby fat, large hips and larger breasts are idolised, due to their increased sense of fertility. So I think you are the one that's wrong. Society DOES suggest women should be thin. Men also have society breathing down their necks, suggesting that women only want tall handsome RICH men....

    You are truly deluded.
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    (Original post by StressReliever)
    Is the OP asking why girls are generally insecure over issues like 'weight' or just another thread about fat girls? It seems to always escalate into the same old bull sh*t.
    It's yet another thread bashing fat folk. I'm just waiting for the "I hate sitting next to fat people on the bus LOL".
    Nature and culture both play a role in females being very sensative. But this doesn't mean that all larger people should feel embarassed or like they have to be a stick, because if they are happy that's all that matters. Not a random person on the internet telling them to get on a treadmill.
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    (Original post by missderrie)
    Yes, that's the 'truth' but most girls I know want to be slim, pretty with long beautiful hair. What's BS about that? Do you even understand what I wrote? If all girls understood that those models aren't even real with an unattainable look, there would not be one insecure girl on this plannet. Media do portray that look to be a 'standard' otherwise there would be no such thing as supermodels. Calm down..
    I agree with the sentiment of your post, but I would go further to say that it's not that celeb/model images are wholly unattainable for other women, but that the images we see are not even real. Yes, the model is very attractive in real life, but all the images in ads and magazines are manipulated. We do not even see the real image of the models. Comparing oneself to a digitally manipulated image is ridiculous and is very damaging to women. Many people don't even realise they are ogling images of beauty that don't exist. Not even the model herself has a waist so narrow, skin so smooth, hair so big and glossy, breasts so perky.

    So back to your post:"If all girls understood that those models aren't even real with an unattainable look, there would not be one insecure girl on this planet" - great quote. Here lies the rub, people (men and women) don't always realise these images are false and they admire something that doesn't exist.

    I am all for self improvement, fitness, healthy diet, beauty, hair, clothes etc but I strongly resent these images that misrepresent reality. Both men and women are subjected to this and it is very damaging indeed for those growing up with these images
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    (Original post by missderrie)
    LOL, people like you make me laugh. What gives you the impression I am unhappy with the way I look? In no way am I blaming anyone else for the 'hard truth in the mirror?' Are you SERIOUSLY telling me that society has no role whatsoever in people's insecurities? Nature actually says women with baby fat, large hips and larger breasts are idolised, due to their increased sense of fertility. So I think you are the one that's wrong. Society DOES suggest women should be thin. Men also have society breathing down their necks, suggesting that women only want tall handsome RICH men....

    You are truly deluded.
    I'm deluded? You are arguing with scientific papers which you clearly haven't read. Now please explain why you would do that if you're not insecure
    Large breasts have never been seen as attractive - they are prominent sign of age. You would know this if you read the papers I linked to you.
    So instead of trying to claim you know better than doctors, researchers and professors, go read the papers I learn the facts instead of replacing reality with your own substitute.
    (Original post by CameraGirl)
    because there really is too much pressure from society to look good 0_o sucks eh?
    people jsut want to look in the mirror and be happy with what they see, is that such a bad thing?
    though yeah if they hate themselves that much , do something about it.
    it's so satisfying to really put the effort in and see it paying off
    hard to stick at it though.
    a lot of girls think they'll never find a guy who thinks they're attractive, especially if they don't think they are.

    it's really not complicated, people just want to look their best, and society's definition of looking good, is too difficult to acheive :P
    It's not society's definition of attractive, it's natures:
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=1450150
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    (Original post by Holly Hiskey)
    Whilst some of it is nature, clearly some of it is also social, otherwise you wouldn't get "trends" in weight. I think girls focus on their appearances quite a lot and that why they're so sensitive about it. Also because people tend to make assumptions about your personality based on your weight ("fat people are lazy and have no discipline" etc etc) whereas they tend to do it less or not at all for things like height.
    I used to be very very conscious of my weight, but now I'm really not at all. Thank god.
    How can you compare height and weight??
    You have no control over your height but you do your weight...There is a big difference between the two which you are bizarrely overlooking.
    (Original post by amizzle91)
    I do still think social pressure does play a part in people's insecurities, not solely responsible obviously but it does have an effect IMO... like I said, it's not just physical attractiveness, it applies to people striving to get the best degrees and the best jobs and earning the most money as well as wanting to be the thinnest, the prettiest, the most stylish...
    Thing is a lot of those social pressures come from nature, especially the ones to do with image. You'll find that what is regarded as attractive usually comes down to 2 things - fertility and health. Being stylish usually helps promote one or the other, money means more ability to support kids etc.
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    (Original post by Mazty)
    Large breasts have never been seen as attractive - they are prominent sign of age. You would know this if you read the papers I linked to you.


    It's not society's definition of attractive, it's natures:
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=1450150
    Those studies claimed the most attractive body type was slim, low WHR with large breasts even though it made them appear 2 years older than slim, low WHR and small breasts.
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    It's only the larger girls who are sensitive about weight.
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    (Original post by Mazty)
    You are so wrong it's hilarious. You do realise the drive to be thin and attractive is not society but nature?
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=1450150
    If you are unhappy with how you look it is because you know you don't look good. Stop trying to blame other people for the hard truth that is in the mirror.
    The drive to be 'thin' is a current trend. I cannot see how you can claim the drive to thinness is a natural urge. Go to a decent art gallery and look at the bodies of the naked women. Other than corpses, few are THIN. There are very few, if any artsworks of women as thin as current supermodels.

    The bodies of women seem to be of varied shapes and sizes. Some are slender, small breasted and have larger bellies, some are meaty, some are curvy, some are very large, some are obese. I don't see any anorexics. What I find odd and striking is that there are no paintings of anorexic weight women with large breasts.

    Ideals change over time. At some times large women were the height of beauty, sometimes flat chested women, sometimes big bottomed women, sometimes hourglass/full women, sometimes boyish slim figures, sometimes fit/toned/athletic, sometimes...'heroin chic'.

    If thin was always in, why were these women painted as larger and rounded?

    Look carefully at the bodies of these women. Various shapes and sizes at different times. Some even have rolls.

    http://www.shafe.co.uk/crystal/image...h_Organist.jpg

    http://www.russianpaintings.net/arti...ir_bather2.jpg

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Nuta_CQvIm...-by-Titian.jpg

    http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...frOZcqdG4x&t=1

    http://heindorffhus.motivsamler.dk/a...ptg-medium.jpg

    http://www.homosapiensunadorned.com/...mit_schwan.jpg


    http://www.russianpaintings.net/arti...ir_bather2.jpg

    80s - fit, rounded and healthy. Large thighs, hips, bottom, breasts. Not thin.

    http://daily.likeme.net/lm/wp-conten...rawford-76.jpg

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_j72YhvxjwT...r%2B017%2B.jpg

    90s heroin chic. Does this look healthy or attractive?

    http://beckybetts.files.wordpress.co..._by_day_gl.jpg

    http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...gyXSoOJqEw&t=1

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Ys3aN8gOP1...orrenti_gl.jpg

    http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...04_468x550.jpg

    http://images.teamsugar.com/files/us...007/heroin.jpg
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    (Original post by Bakerzoid)
    Because women clearly have no self-discipline. Want to lose weight? Put down that god damn fork. You will only lose weight when you start eating less, that is the most effective way to lose weight other than exercise, which I feel is nowhere near as effective.

    You just have to make sure that your diet is still nutritious and that you don't eat too little, that should be the most difficult part of dieting, not finding the willpower to go through with the diet or trying to lose weight without feeling hungry from time to time. What I would recommend doing is finding out how many calories somebody your age should be consuming and find ways of roughly sticking to this level of eating.

    Also, don't give me this rubbish about women constantly being made to feel insecure, like men aren't made to feel insecure and are expected to be tall and good looking, something which they genuinely can't do anything about and which women attack men for complaining about, when its implications are also far greater. Look on the internet, there are actually men spending hundreds of hours of their lives pointlessly pursuing ways of increasing their height. To them, losing weight and gaining muscle is a walk in the park.
    lol,this is hillarious; you should be a motivational speaker.

    I'm not sensitive about my weight at all i'm just over 9.5 stone and normal bmi (according to wii fit ).

    Also i think girls should only complain about their weight if they have some kind of hormone imbalance thing like pcos. Everyone else who likes to moan about their body should lose weight.
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    (Original post by agolati)
    I mean, if you wanted to, you could lose weight you know.
    If you wanted to, you can pay no attention to the nagging insecure thoughts and just accept who you are, no one REALLY wants someone that doesn't accept themselves.

    title needs 'are' instead of 'do'
    Yeah, you can lose weight, but if you were a normal weight anyway, how does that help you?

    Weightloss doesn't solve anything. Just be healthy.

    Why are girls insecure about their weight? Many, many reasons, some being:

    - Airbrushed images of models whose BMIs are well under 17.5 but the ribs are smoothed over so they look healthy and thin. UK size 4-6 becomes a goal for the girls watching. (Yes I understand some people are naturally thin, but for the vast majority of adult people, size 4 is not normal or healthy)
    - Unrealistic images of beauty
    - Celebrity culture
    - Males on TSR who praise sexy underweight females and repulse at the sight of a healthy woman who isn't a stick
    -Some men who complain that their GF is too fat at size 10 and average height

    many more reasons, you get the point.
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    (Original post by the_decider)
    fyi: only true 4 western society girls
    No it isnt -.-
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    just like it has been said above in this same thread...a lot of it is down to the influence of the media, girls see these pictures and want to have what they see as the 'ideal' body when in reality it's nothing like what they see it to be and it's not really what it seems
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    (Original post by the_decider)
    fyi: only true 4 western society girls
    Doubt it.

    Insecurities abound. An extreme example being the prevalence of eating disorders in non Western countries eg Japan, Singapore, parts of China.
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    (Original post by StressReliever)
    Those studies claimed the most attractive body type was slim, low WHR with large breasts even though it made them appear 2 years older than slim, low WHR and small breasts.
    ...Which study are you looking at? Either way I should have been more specific. I was assuming we were talking large breasts on large women, which isn't seen as attractive due to the sagging being a sign of age. Also breast size tends to be one of the smaller signs of attraction, with weight being the main one, followed by WHR.
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    (Original post by No Future)
    The drive to be 'thin' is a current trend. I cannot see how you can claim the drive to thinness is a natural urge. Go to a decent art gallery and look at the bodies of the naked women. Other than corpses, few are THIN. There are very few, if any artsworks of women as thin as current supermodels.

    The bodies of women seem to be of varied shapes and sizes. Some are slender, small breasted and have larger bellies, some are meaty, some are curvy, some are very large, some are obese. I don't see any anorexics. What I find odd and striking is that there are no paintings of anorexic weight women with large breasts.

    Ideals change over time. At some times large women were the height of beauty, sometimes flat chested women, sometimes big bottomed women, sometimes hourglass/full women, sometimes boyish slim figures, sometimes fit/toned/athletic, sometimes...'heroin chic'.

    If thin was always in, why were these women painted as larger and rounded?

    Look carefully at the bodies of these women. Various shapes and sizes at different times. Some even have rolls.
    What you are looking at is evolution in attraction and the difference between art & marketing. Being thin used to indicate poor health/lack of food hence why extra weight was considered attractive by some. However in the last 100+ years food has increasingly not been a problem hence why extra weight is now a negative quality.
    Plus how can you compare marketing images for clothing to art? Also don't forget if an artist was hired, he is hardly going to draw the opposite of his clientèle...
    Thin is what is used in the professional model industry - something which certainly isn't propelled forward by testosterone. If you want what men actually like, open up a Playboy, watch Miss America of Victoria's Secrets something which is noted in one of the papers I've linked to.
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    (Original post by Mazty)
    ...Which study are you looking at? Either way I should have been more specific. I was assuming we were talking large breasts on large women, which isn't seen as attractive due to the sagging being a sign of age. Also breast size tends to be one of the smaller signs of attraction, with weight being the main one, followed by WHR.
    This one: http://web.missouri.edu/~rouderj/301...ings/Singh.pdf

    Generally it appears larger breasts increased the attractiveness rating for all body types (as show by figure 2 on page 8). I understand that heavier bodies were overall rated less attractive as were those with high waist/hip ratios, but when comparing the same body type, larger breasts scored higher (albeit only slightly).
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