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  1. TotoMimo's Avatar
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    Re: The Deceptively Non-Vegetarian Vegetarian Thread
    Guinness



    Why is it unsuitable? In the process of creating Guinness, fish is used.
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    Re: The Deceptively Non-Vegetarian Vegetarian Thread
    (Original post by Hylean)
    Fanta Orange has fish gelatine in it.

    Interesting enough, most apple ciders isn't veggie friendly but pear cider is.
    Weird, I've always looked at ingredients and it's never said. It doesn't say gelatine on the list of ingredients on the website either. Unless i'm mistaking some fancy scientific name for gelatine.

    "Carbonated water, sugar (from beet and/or cane), orange fruit from concentrate (5%), citric acid, vegetable concentrates (carrot, pumpkin), preservative (potassium sorbate), natural orange flavouring with other natural flavourings, sweeteners (sodium saccharin, aspartame), antioxidant (ascorbic acid) acidity regulator (sodium citrate), stabiliser (guar gum). Contains a source of phenylalanine."



    http://www.coca-cola.co.uk/brands/fanta.html
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    Also, on the subject of Fanta etc. I just remembered that Kia-Ora orange drinks have gelatine in too.
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    McDonalds chips are veggie/vegan though! Yay!
    Not as far as I am aware:

    http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/nutri...do?itemID=6052

    There's a conflicting view on the main McDonalds UK website, and I'm not sure whether that is because the recipes are different for McDonalds UK or, more likely, they're lying about their ingredients again.
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    (Original post by emilym94)
    Weird, I've always looked at ingredients and it's never said. It doesn't say gelatine on the list of ingredients on the website either. Unless i'm mistaking some fancy scientific name for gelatine.

    "Carbonated water, sugar (from beet and/or cane), orange fruit from concentrate (5%), citric acid, vegetable concentrates (carrot, pumpkin), preservative (potassium sorbate), natural orange flavouring with other natural flavourings, sweeteners (sodium saccharin, aspartame), antioxidant (ascorbic acid) acidity regulator (sodium citrate), stabiliser (guar gum). Contains a source of phenylalanine."



    http://www.coca-cola.co.uk/brands/fanta.html
    It's a stabiliser part of the colouring agent. I've called Coke up in Lambeg and asked.
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    I doubt it but are they suitable for vegans?

    And McDonalds apple pies. Might be fried in the same oil as the meat due to the **** filtering system.

    McDonalds chips are veggie/vegan though! Yay!
    I'm not sure about supernoodles, but I think the Sainsbury's basic chicken curry noodles ARE vegan... As are Walkers prawn cocktail crisps.

    Keen to see what is surprisingly not vegetarian though...
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    Re: The Deceptively Non-Vegetarian Vegetarian Thread
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    Not as far as I am aware:

    http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/nutri...do?itemID=6052

    There's a conflicting view on the main McDonalds UK website, and I'm not sure whether that is because the recipes are different for McDonalds UK or, more likely, they're lying about their ingredients again.
    May I ask where the evidence on the UK site is that the chips aren't vegetarian? I remember looking before and was convinced they are suitable... now I'm worried I would guess that practices are just different in the UK and US due to regulations on health or dietary requirements.
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    (Original post by Hylean)
    It's a stabiliser part of the colouring agent. I've called Coke up in Lambeg and asked.
    Oh cool, thanks for clearing that up. No more Fanta for me then. :rolleyes:
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    Re: The Deceptively Non-Vegetarian Vegetarian Thread
    (Original post by hayheyley)
    May I ask where the evidence on the UK site is that the chips aren't vegetarian? I remember looking before and was convinced they are suitable... now I'm worried I would guess that practices are just different in the UK and US due to regulations on health or dietary requirements.
    That's what I'm saying, the UK website implies that all that's in the fries is potatoes, sunflower oil and dextrose, i.e. they're vegan. I can't imagine that it would be to do with regulations.
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    Oh man, Nutella isn't? :<

    I got pissed off the other day when I found out that Tesco's changed their own recipe of their Vegetable pies to include cheese with rennet. Those pies were lush.

    Marshmallow has gelatin, I've only found tesco's marshmallow snowballs to be veggie friendly.

    Most walkers crisps, even if it says bacon, chicken or beef flavoured are veggie friendly. In fact, I've found it true across most snack foods, so don't be put off if its meat flavoured as usually it'll be artificial flavouring, just read the small print.

    I'll come back to this when I remember what looks like it should be vegetarian but isn't.
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    Candied Apples



    Why are they unsuitable? The candy coating contains insect material. Toffee apples, however, are unaffected.
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    (Original post by JCC-MGS)
    That's what I'm saying, the UK website implies that all that's in the fries is potatoes, sunflower oil and dextrose, i.e. they're vegan. I can't imagine that it would be to do with regulations.
    Well I don't confess to much direct knowledge of UK regulations but I have heard that if something is being sold as vegetarian, it must actually be. I can't imagine a large chain like McDonalds could get away with lying for so long. The fact that they seem quite open about the fact that their onion rings for example are not vegetarian because they are cooked with meat makes me question the logic of lying about their chips :confused:

    And on a slightly less relevant note, a lot of places in the UK tend to use vegetarian oils for frying because of health concerns which may be why the UK site says something different to the US. The recipe to McDonalds products do differ from country to country, so it is possible that the method of cooking differs too.
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    I check packets obsessively so I've yet to slip up, thank God. XD
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    (Original post by JCC-MGS)
    Not as far as I am aware:

    http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/nutri...do?itemID=6052

    There's a conflicting view on the main McDonalds UK website, and I'm not sure whether that is because the recipes are different for McDonalds UK or, more likely, they're lying about their ingredients again.

    (Original post by hayheyley)
    May I ask where the evidence on the UK site is that the chips aren't vegetarian? I remember looking before and was convinced they are suitable... now I'm worried I would guess that practices are just different in the UK and US due to regulations on health or dietary requirements.
    They are fine in the UK. They are Vegetarian Society approved.
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    Re: The Deceptively Non-Vegetarian Vegetarian Thread
    (Original post by Cicerao)
    They are fine in the UK. They are Vegetarian Society approved.
    Fries
    Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Sunflower, Rapeseed), Dextrose (only added at beginning of season). Prepared in the restaurants using a non-hydrogenated vegetable oil. Salt is added after cooking
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    (Original post by JCC-MGS)
    Not as far as I am aware:

    http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/nutri...do?itemID=6052

    There's a conflicting view on the main McDonalds UK website, and I'm not sure whether that is because the recipes are different for McDonalds UK or, more likely, they're lying about their ingredients again.
    They're certified by the vegetarian society so... I wouldn't say they were lying. Why would they lie? They'd get their behinds sued by angry vegetarians haha

    (Original post by affinity89)
    I'm not sure about supernoodles, but I think the Sainsbury's basic chicken curry noodles ARE vegan... As are Walkers prawn cocktail crisps.

    Keen to see what is surprisingly not vegetarian though...
    Prawn cocktail!!! Yay!

    (Original post by Mutedmirth)
    Oh man, Nutella isn't? :<

    I got pissed off the other day when I found out that Tesco's changed their own recipe of their Vegetable pies to include cheese with rennet. Those pies were lush.

    Marshmallow has gelatin, I've only found tesco's marshmallow snowballs to be veggie friendly.

    Most walkers crisps, even if it says bacon, chicken or beef flavoured are veggie friendly. In fact, I've found it true across most snack foods, so don't be put off if its meat flavoured as usually it'll be artificial flavouring, just read the small print.

    I'll come back to this when I remember what looks like it should be vegetarian but isn't.
    I miss marshmallows! :sad:

    Why isn't nutella vegetarian?? :eek3: it has cocoa, milk and hazelnuts. OMG, I virtually lived off nutella for ages! :eek:

    So I can have smokey bacon flavoured walkers crisps again? :awesome:
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    Does Fanta really have fish products in it? I thought that was just a rumour I'm a non-pescetarian, so if that's true, no more fanta for me.

    Would Tango be the same?
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    I check packets obsessively so I've yet to slip up, thank God. XD
    I check and I refuse to eat things I know have something in them, but life is too short to obsess, I've slipped up many times, probably times I haven't noticed. (sweets being my weakness) Eating out is the worse so I'm less concerned, granted I still won't eat gelatine, but like if I want to go to McDonalds or to chip shops they may cook their veggie burgers on grills with others or their chips with the sausages, I play the 'if I can't see it I don't know' however with subway I insist on them changing their gloves XD

    Also UK Mcdonalds chips are vegetarian as they are cooked in a completely separate vat from the meat and onion rings. They also have the V next to it on the menu, if they weren't cooked separately they wouldn't be able to have that because it could be seen as false advertising.

    I'm glad I live in the UK where most things are labelled and some companies are kind enough to label if it ISN'T suitable for veggies.

    Also if the non veggie ingredient isn't on the label, I'd still eat/drink it.

    I'll remember the tango/fanta one tho since I don't drink them anyway, it's risky since those who are allergic to seafood may never have thought it would be in those kinds of drinks.
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    I'm sorry, I respect vegetarians who choose not to eat meat to avoid animal cruelty, but some of this is just stupidly picky for the sake of it isn't it?

    (Original post by TotoMimo)
    Why is it unsuitable? McDonalds Q and A confirm it is potentially prepared in the same fat the meat products are.
    What difference does this make? Unless you are somehow allergic to meat then surely it makes no difference? By that logic, you shouldn't buy any McDonalds food because it is prepared by the same staff who prepare meat, and served at the same counter where meat is served.

    (Original post by TotoMimo)
    Why are they unsuitable? The candy coating contains insect material. Toffee apples, however, are unaffected.
    Surely no one cares? Who worries about insect welfare? Unless you have a phobia of animal products I don't see the point. Milk is more cruel.


    Sorry, this had to be said.
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    (Original post by Clementiney921)
    Caesar Dressing (anchovies), Starburst/gummi candies like Haribo (gelatin).

    Gotta watch out for that stuff.
    You can get veggie Hairbo. It's called "funny mix". It does taste funny, though.
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