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  1. cdsmith1990's Avatar
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    Re: The Internet and Gaming at Newcastle University
    I'll put a word in too if you want guys, I wouldn't mind the option of a little online gaming
  2. Kylepott's Avatar
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    (Original post by cdsmith1990)
    I'll put a word in too if you want guys, I wouldn't mind the option of a little online gaming
    We just need the other guy to get back to us with the e-mail address we need.

    Seems like a few people would e-mail them, hopefully we can get something sorted.
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    (Original post by Kylepott)
    We just need the other guy to get back to us with the e-mail address we need.

    Seems like a few people would e-mail them, hopefully we can get something sorted.
    Sound, I'll check back until we get it...

    Should we come up with a kinda generic email to send so they realise it's a group effort?
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    If I'm gonna take an xbox and tv for a room in Richardson Road, am I gonna have to buy a table to put them on, or will there be something in the room to put the xbox and TV on? And if I am gonna have to buy a table to put them on will it take up a load of space relative to the size of the room?
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    Just the helpdesk guys...

    helpline@ncl.ac.uk
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    (Original post by Cheri)
    Just the helpdesk guys...

    helpline@ncl.ac.uk
    Ah right, thanks!

    Will send them an email asking them to sort out the ports for gaming.
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    (Original post by Cheri)
    Just the helpdesk guys...

    helpline@ncl.ac.uk
    Cheers, will get onto e-mailing them!
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    E-mailed them Sunday night and got this reply at 4 this afternoon:

    Hello

    It is not previously possible to connect to any online games or connect games consoles to the University network, which is provided for Academic use only. You will find that many applications that work on a commercial ISP do not work with our network.

    The University network docking service (both in halls and on campus) is subject to a strict firewall policy: this is to protect the security and stability of the halls network; the wider campus network, and the security of all network users. Applying exceptions to this policy both weakens its effectiveness, and requires maintenance downtime which disrupts the docking service for all users.

    As a result, we rarely relax these rules, and only when we consider there to be a strong, academic based case for the change in question.

    However if you can tell us which ports your games console requires we will look into this request for you.


    Regards,



    So does anyone know what ports Xbox live uses? and Psn for the PS3 users.
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    (Original post by Kylepott)
    E-mailed them Sunday night and got this reply at 4 this afternoon:

    Hello

    It is not previously possible to connect to any online games or connect games consoles to the University network, which is provided for Academic use only. You will find that many applications that work on a commercial ISP do not work with our network.

    The University network docking service (both in halls and on campus) is subject to a strict firewall policy: this is to protect the security and stability of the halls network; the wider campus network, and the security of all network users. Applying exceptions to this policy both weakens its effectiveness, and requires maintenance downtime which disrupts the docking service for all users.

    As a result, we rarely relax these rules, and only when we consider there to be a strong, academic based case for the change in question.

    However if you can tell us which ports your games console requires we will look into this request for you.


    Regards,



    So does anyone know what ports Xbox live uses? and Psn for the PS3 users.
    Taken from the Microsoft site:

    If you have a firewall or network hardware, such as a router, you might need to make a configuration change in order for your Xbox 360 console to communicate with Xbox LIVE. This configuration change is sometimes called "opening ports" or "port forwarding."

    Xbox LIVE requires the following ports to be open:
    Port 88 (UDP)
    Port 3074 (UDP and TCP)
    Port 53 (UDP and TCP)
    Port 80 (TCP)
  10. Kylepott's Avatar
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    I thought about the MS site as soon as i posted.

    It's not looking good, there must be a reason they haven't done it before. Anybody know if one of these ports can be dangerous to the network if its opened?
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    (Original post by Kylepott)
    I thought about the MS site as soon as i posted.

    It's not looking good, there must be a reason they haven't done it before. Anybody know if one of these ports can be dangerous to the network if its opened?
    Don't know brah, I'm guessing the more ports you open and stuff, the higher the risk to security...

    I've just sent an email anyway, see what I hear back...
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    Seems they have a done a U-turn and will definitely now allow online gaming unless we persuade them it is academic...

    Good Afternoon

    It is not possible to connect to any online games or connect games consoles to the University network, which is provided for Academic use only. You will find that many applications that work on a commercial ISP do not work with our network.

    The University network docking service (both in halls and on campus) is subject to a strict firewall policy: this is to protect the security and stability of the halls network; the wider campus network, and the security of all network users. Applying exceptions to this policy both weakens its effectiveness, and requires maintenance downtime which disrupts the docking service for all users.

    As a result, we rarely relax these rules, and only when we consider there to be a strong, academic based case for the change in question.

    Many thanks
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    I emailed them last night, with information of the ports that would need opening for Xbox Live and PSN, as well as a strong argument in favour of it, such as allowing people from different halls to socialise through gaming, and allowing people to keep in touch with friends and family back home etc. It was quite well thought out tbh...

    They emailed back this morning asking for my login and student number. Am I in trouble? lol...
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    If Steam is blocked as well, any chance of mentioning the ports for Steam too for us PC folk whilst you're emailing them?
    Just in case they actually do start opening ports.


    Steam Client
    UDP 27000 to 27015 inclusive (Game client traffic)
    UDP 27015 to 27030 inclusive (Typically Matchmaking and HLTV)
    TCP 27014 to 27050 inclusive (Steam downloads)
    UDP 4380

    Dedicated or Listen Servers
    TCP 27015 (SRCDS Rcon port)

    Steamworks P2P Networking and Steam Voice Chat
    UDP 3478 (Outbound)
    UDP 4379 (Outbound)
    UDP 4380 (Outbound)
    source: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...8571-GLVN-8711
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    Your doing well guys, admin at newcastle are tough nuts, whenever I argued with billing, they just stopped if I had a good point, never emailed me back, and sent a paper bill through the post
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    (Original post by cdsmith1990)


    I emailed them last night, with information of the ports that would need opening for Xbox Live and PSN, as well as a strong argument in favour of it, such as allowing people from different halls to socialise through gaming, and allowing people to keep in touch with friends and family back home etc. It was quite well thought out tbh...

    They emailed back this morning asking for my login and student number. Am I in trouble? lol...
    I hope not.... :rofl: or they could be trying to provide special access to you ?

    Keep us updated, I definitely need some online gaming now and then :mad:

    I shall annoy them once I reach there !!!
    Last edited by Zinio; 08-09-2011 at 15:22.
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    (Original post by cdsmith1990)


    I emailed them last night, with information of the ports that would need opening for Xbox Live and PSN, as well as a strong argument in favour of it, such as allowing people from different halls to socialise through gaming, and allowing people to keep in touch with friends and family back home etc. It was quite well thought out tbh...

    They emailed back this morning asking for my login and student number. Am I in trouble? lol...
    Well at least they didn't say no, see what happens when you give them the info.
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    Will do guys

    On a similar note.. does anyone know if these restrictions will affect things like Skype?

    I was hoping to use that to keep in touch with friends and family back home :/
  19. Kylepott's Avatar
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    If you e-mailed using your personal e-mail account then that is why they want your log in details. Just making sure your a student.

    Its not looking good so far, thinking about it, i highly doubt we will be able to torrent or anything on the network :/

    Lack of free films and music for me!
  20. Kylepott's Avatar
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    Just checked my e-mails and i have recived this since sending them the ports we need:

    ***** THIS EMAIL WAS AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED. REPLIES WILL BE SENT TO IT.SERVICEDESK@NCL.AC.UK *****

    Thank you for contacting the ISS IT Service Desk.

    Your service request has been logged and assigned a reference of -----
    Please quote this reference if you contact the ISS IT Service Desk again about this
    request. See below for contact details.

    Your service request has now been passed to a support representative, and you will be
    contacted again with further information in due course.

    Brief description of your service request:

    Summary: Live gaming request
    Category: core services
    Subcategory: network connection
    Time Logged: 08/09/11 10:57:58


    Hope we can get something sorted!
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