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*HYP* Resolution 2011/03 - Ending the invasion of North Korea

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    (Original post by USA)
    We the USA feel the time for talk and condemnation is over. Whilst we still disagree with the actions previously taken by North Korea we must do all we can to ensure peace in that region.

    Therefore:
    *HYP* Resolution 2011/03 (thunder_chunky)Committee: General Assembly
    Submitted by: United States of America

    The General Assembly,

    Alarmed by the invasion of North Korea and the attacks by Argentina and Japan,
    Condemns these actions as counter productive in the peace process,
    Mindful that action must be taken if words are not enough to stop Argentina and Japan,

    1. Requests that North Korea allows participation in North Korea by the USA and other nations to act as a peacekeeping force to form a buffer zone around Argentine and Japanese forces preventing them from advancing;

    2. Calls on as many nations as possible to join the USA in an act which is neccesary to maintain peace and prevent further violence and escalation;

    3. Insists that if refused another form of action be taken to ensure Argentina and Japanese forces are not able to advance any further.


    (Original post by USA)
    We call on all nations to take part and discuss this vital subject.
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    Cprrect me if I'm wrong but isn't the USA currently in an effective state of war with Argentina and Japan?
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    (Original post by Ethereal)
    Cprrect me if I'm wrong but isn't the USA currently in an effective state of war with Argentina and Japan?
    War has not yet been declared with Japan and/or Argentina. We don't wish to enter a state of war with Japan.

    The USA would like to state that we are not going back on our word. This is not an invasion of North Korea, nor does this amount to the USA acting hypocritical. We are merely trying to find a way to stem the violence so that Argentina and Japan are forced to pay more attention and put more effort into the peace negotiations.

    This action may be a step too far, in which case the USA is open to any suggestion as to how to prevent Argentina and Japan from continuing their attacks and invasion.
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    (Original post by thunder_chunky)
    War has not yet been declared with Japan and/or Argentina. We don't wish to enter a state of war with Japan.
    Egypt would like to ask the USA if it would like to remake this point - or has it not ruled out war with Argentina?
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    (Original post by Tenbinza)
    Egypt would like to ask the USA if it would like to remake this point - or has it not ruled out war with Argentina?
    By stating that the USA does not wish to enter a state of war it by no means rules it out completely, it just means we will do all we can to prevent such an occurance. We have been heavily involved in the fighting in South Korea in order to push North Korean forces out of South Korea which has been successfull but we have sustained casualties in doing so.
    In order to maintain public support of our campaign for peace in the region we will not enter a conflict unless entirely and undeniably neccessary.
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    (Original post by thunder_chunky)
    War has not yet been declared with Japan and/or Argentina. We don't wish to enter a state of war with Japan.

    The USA would like to state that we are not going back on our word. This is not an invasion of North Korea, nor does this amount to the USA acting hypocritical. We are merely trying to find a way to stem the violence so that Argentina and Japan are forced to pay more attention and put more effort into the peace negotiations.

    This action may be a step too far, in which case the USA is open to any suggestion as to how to prevent Argentina and Japan from continuing their attacks and invasion.
    Have you been in sustained armed conflict with those nations?
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    (Original post by Ethereal)
    Have you been in sustained armed conflict with those nations?
    No. We have not yet entered a state of combat with either although one of our naval ships has encountered an armed naval vessel in international waters ont he edge of North Korean waters. The ship is thought to be Argentinian but Argentina have yet to confirm (or indeed deny) this. No combat took place although it is understood that there was a level of tension at the time.
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    (Original post by thunder_chunky)
    No. We have not yet entered a state of combat with either although one of our naval ships has encountered an armed naval vessel in international waters ont he edge of North Korean waters. The ship is thought to be Argentinian but Argentina have yet to confirm (or indeed deny) this. No combat took place although it is understood that there was a level of tension at the time.
    Surely the flag gave it away?

    [ooc] :p: [/ooc]
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    (Original post by Ethereal)
    Surely the flag gave it away?

    [ooc] :p: [/ooc]
    There was no flag raised at the time, we think we this was done purposely although the name of the ship was Spanish. As said before since there are (as far as we are aware) no other Spanish speaking nations with blue water ships in the region it is logical to assume that said ship was Argentine.

    [occ] Damn you got me there, nice one. [/ooc]
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    (Original post by Student2806)
    *HYP* Resolution 2011/03 (thunder_chunky)Committee: General Assembly
    Submitted by: United States of America

    The General Assembly,

    Alarmed by the invasion of North Korea and the attacks by Argentina and Japan,
    Condemns these actions as counter productive in the peace process,
    Mindful that action must be taken if words are not enough to stop Argentina and Japan,

    1. Requests that North Korea allows participation in North Korea by the USA and other nations to act as a peacekeeping force to form a buffer zone around Argentine and Japanese forces preventing them from advancing;

    2. Calls on as many nations as possible to join the USA in an act which is neccesary to maintain peace and prevent further violence and escalation;

    3. Insists that if refused another form of action be taken to ensure Argentina and Japanese forces are not able to advance any further.

    In my view this is not a peacekeeping resolution
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    (Original post by thunder_chunky)
    There was no flag raised at the time, we think we this was done purposely although the name of the ship was Spanish. As said before since there are (as far as we are aware) no other Spanish speaking nations with blue water ships in the region it is logical to assume that said ship was Argentine.
    [/ooc]
    Then why didn't you sink it?
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    (Original post by Ethereal)
    In my view this is not a peacekeeping resolution
    Whilst the USA accepts that it may seem like a bit of an extreme measure, we are simply trying to gather as much support within the general assembly as possible and to stop Argentine and Japanese forces continuing as they are and to convince them one way or another to cease and maintain in peaceful talks and negotiations.

    As said before if any other representatives have a better solution the USA welcomes any suggestions.

    (Original post by Ethereal)
    Then why didn't you sink it?
    Our vessel was not attacked therefore it was decided that to attack pre-emptively was not appropriate nor neccesary.
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    (Original post by thunder_chunky)
    Whilst the USA accepts that it may seem like a bit of an extreme measure, we are simply trying to gather as much support within the general assembly as possible and to stop Argentine and Japanese forces continuing as they are and to convince them one way or another to cease and maintain in peaceful talks and negotiations.


    As said before if any other representatives have a better solution the USA welcomes any suggestions.

    Be open and honest and seek a resolution authorizing force. You can't call this a peacekeeping mission as the UN can't, in my view, properly intervene in that manner. You are, potentially, one of the waring sides - your forces should not be bolstered with or by peacekeepers.

    [ooc] Also in the words of ****er moon when he was discussing darfur "there is no peace to keep" [/ooc]

    Our vessel was not attacked therefore it was decided that to attack pre-emptively was not appropriate nor neccesary.
    Your navy saw an armed ship sailing under no flag and it did not challenge it and then go on to sink it as a pirate? Really?
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    (Original post by Ethereal)
    Be open and honest and seek a resolution authorizing force. You can't call this a peacekeeping mission as the UN can't, in my view, properly intervene in that manner. You are, potentially, one of the waring sides - your forces should not be bolstered with or by peacekeepers.
    The USA takes this on board and awaits the opinion on this and any other solution avaliable from the rest of the General assembly.

    [ooc] Also in the words of ****er moon when he was discussing darfur "there is no peace to keep" [/ooc]
    [ooc] It's a hard one to call but if this were real I think it's a possiblity this is the line the USA would really take. I don't think they would be so quick to invade North Korea again not least because they would have very little public support if they tried. [/ooc]


    Your navy saw an armed ship sailing under no flag and it did not challenge it and then go on to sink it as a pirate? Really?
    It was not a pirate ship it was a legitimate naval vessel and we are more than certain it was an Argentine naval vessel that had strayed albeit purposely or not. We don't need Argentina to confirm this for reasons already mentioned.
    We had no reason to assume it was pirates, since when did pirates control millitary naval vessels? They may have been able to seize said vessells centuries ago maybe, but not in the 21st century.

    The decision to attack was difficult considering the intimidation, however since we are not at war with Argentina at this time and since we were not actually attacked we thought it best.
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    Egypt would like to commend the US for showing restraint in the confrontation with this vessel. It should be clear to all parties that no pirates we are currently aware of are capable of operating a large naval vessel. Firing upon what the American crew must have assumed was an Argentine ship from all the situational evidence could only have further antagonised the crisis.
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    (Original post by thunder_chunky)
    It was not a pirate ship it was a legitimate naval vessel and we are more than certain it was an Argentine naval vessel that had strayed albeit purposely or not. We don't need Argentina to confirm this for reasons already mentioned.
    We had no reason to assume it was pirates, since when did pirates control millitary naval vessels? Centuries ago maybe, but not in the 21st century.

    The decision to attack was difficult considering the intimidation, however since we are not at war with Argentina at this time and since we were not actually attacked we thought it best.
    If a vessel is not sailing under flag it is not legitimate at all.
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    (Original post by Ethereal)
    If a vessel is not sailing under flag it is not legitimate at all.
    We believe they only did so briefly to avoid conflict with the US Navy, physical, diplomatic or otherwise. For further divalgence into the semantics feel free to discuss this with the representative for Argentina, for the USA is merely reporting on what it encountered.
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    (Original post by thunder_chunky)
    We believe they only did so briefly to avoid conflict with the US Navy, physical, diplomatic or otherwise. For further divalgence into the semantics feel free to discuss this with the representative for Argentina, for the USA is merely reporting on what it encountered.
    Why would I discuss it with a representative whose ship it may not be?
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    Egypt believes that The Assembly should focus on the fact that DPRK troops have begun shelling Japanese positions.
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    (Original post by Ethereal)
    Why would I discuss it with a representative whose ship it may not be?
    Because it is th only plausible explanation for whom the ship could belong to.
    We have since identified the ship as Argentine.

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