[Hard.Target]

Religious types, in whatever view you have of a heaven, would people with severe mental problems still be crazy in heaven and would they even be allowed in? Especially if they've been mad from birth not dementia in old age, because then they couldn't have even have clasped on to any of the religions properly.

[Charzhino]

Not having the mental capability or responsability for your actions, it would be hard to see why a mental person would be granted ''heaven'' since they are not fully aware of the world around them.

[The_Lonely_Goatherd]

I don't think there are any restrictions on my being able to enter Heaven, just because I have severe mental health problems

I hope I'm not this ill in Heaven

[aarora]

Isn't it crazy to believe in heaven?

[Hard.Target]

(Original post by aarora)
Isn't it crazy to believe in heaven?

This was in my mind when making the thread but I'd consider that deluded and I'm thinking more of padded cell.

[neonoctopus]

I'm not religious at all but I can't understand why, assuming god is all loving etc, he would discriminate against someone simply for being ill; also, just being "severely mentally ill" doesn't necessarily mean you cannot understand religion or anything. In fact many very intelligent and philosophical people have suffered mental illnesses because they think so deeply. Equally, mental illness is just an illness; why would God discriminate against someone with cancer or asthma?

[Rzc]

No because it doesn't exist.

[mikeylfc1989]

Fairly sure he filters them out of the 'Heaven' pool and sends them straight to hell. Kids too, I would assume they would piss him off a little.

[Sangha236]

I love the way you look at things. Pretty interesting question. Never thought of something like that.

[Wookie42]

AFAIK, the Bible doesn't specifically address his subject. Perhaps partially relevant however is in the Bible when David's child dies, he says "I will go to him, but he will not return to me" (Somewhere in Samuel). This suggests that even though the child had no idea about God/Jesus/Heaven/etc, David would still meet him in heaven - some people take this and apply it to other similar situations, for example mental illness. In the case of someone who led a 'normal' life and later on had a mental illness though, many people argue that God will judge them based upon their life up until they, ahem, lost their mind...

Just my two pennies, from a sort of Christian point of view.

[yawn]

(Original post by Hard.Target)
Religious types, in whatever view you have of a heaven, would people with severe mental problems still be crazy in heaven and would they even be allowed in? Especially if they've been mad from birth not dementia in old age, because then they couldn't have even have clasped on to any of the religions properly.

There are no illnesses, nor unhappiness in heaven:
Revelation 21:4 "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain, for the former things are passed away."

Originally Posted by Rzc
No because it doesn't exist.

Sheesh...the assumption of the OP is that it does...play the game.

[kerily]

I like to think that I wouldn't have depression in some form of afterlife, but I would still be autistic.

[yawn]

(Original post by kerily)
I like to think that I wouldn't have depression in some form of afterlife, but I would still be autistic.

According to the Bible, you wouldn't. Just like you won't be married...if you were on earth...in heaven either.

Have you read the Bible?

[kerily]

(Original post by yawn)
According to the Bible, you wouldn't. Have you read the Bible?

I have. I'm not a Christian in that I don't follow any form of dogma or organised religion, but I do believe in some form of deity/higher power/underlying logic to the universe/etc.

Do you mean that I wouldn't have depression, or I wouldn't be autistic? The latter is a pretty integral part of my personality, and I'd be quite unimpressed if it went away; I'd be an entirely different person. But not having depression would be lovely Although I'm hoping that that will come with time anyway.

[imzir]

i seriously can't see how the OP can't be a troll with that kind of question

[Joinedup]

Some might say a lot of the prophets were showing signs of schizophrenia and presumably they'll be in heaven.

e.g. 1. Abraham being ordered by the voice of god to murder his own son
e.g. 2. Moses being spoken to by a burning bush

[Joinedup]

could be embarrassing in the afterlife if you were widowed and remarried on earth

[imzir]

(Original post by Joinedup)
Some might say a lot of the prophets were showing signs of schizophrenia and presumably they'll be in heaven.

e.g. 1. Abraham being ordered by the voice of god to murder his own son
e.g. 2. Moses being spoken to by a burning bush

[imzir]

(Original post by kerily)
I have. I'm not a Christian in that I don't follow any form of dogma or organised religion, but I do believe in some form of deity/higher power/underlying logic to the universe/etc.

Do you mean that I wouldn't have depression, or I wouldn't be autistic? The latter is a pretty integral part of my personality, and I'd be quite unimpressed if it went away; I'd be an entirely different person. But not having depression would be lovely Although I'm hoping that that will come with time anyway.

im pretty sure in heaven (of abrahamic religions) it is the completely ideal place and whatever your state of being is - it would be for the best of your satisfaction.

[yawn]

(Original post by kerily)
I have. I'm not a Christian in that I don't follow any form of dogma or organised religion, but I do believe in some form of deity/higher power/underlying logic to the universe/etc.

Do you mean that I wouldn't have depression, or I wouldn't be autistic? The latter is a pretty integral part of my personality, and I'd be quite unimpressed if it went away; I'd be an entirely different person. But not having depression would be lovely Although I'm hoping that that will come with time anyway.

The whole ethos of Salvation is that we loss our earthly encumberances such as husbands/wives (that's a joke, btw) and illnesses that leave us less than perfect, when we get to heaven.

Susceptability to anger, bigotry, spitefulness etc. are also integral parts of our human personalities but we achieve perfection in the afterlife - unless we've gone to share an eternal home with the devil!

I have tried to inject a bit of levity into my posts, but there is seriousness there too, because of what we are told in scripture.