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I swear ugly guys find it easier...
Original post by sawyer
are you a bag head?


Well no.
Sorry to disappoint.
Reply 62
I've no idea. If you're only goal in life is to get laid however, then pity is what you'd probably get from most people.

Oh, and the people who are saying girls are not as shallow, please cut the BS OK. The overwhelming majority of guys wouldn't go out with a complete b**ch, just because she happened to be female. We care about personality, confidence and the like as well.
Original post by Neil_K
Again....stop using famous people as examples. Read my sig.

I'm talking about guys who are not rich or famous. In fact, I suggest you read the folliwing post, 'Are wealth, fame, power, and/or career success the keys to romantic bliss. Nope' >> http://www.examiner.com/men-s-dating-advice-in-los-angeles/are-wealth-fame-power-and-or-career-success-the-keys-to-romantic-bliss-nope

It will clear up some of your misconceptions.


Do you understand what 'social status' means? If you do then you'll understand why girls like famous people or those with money!
Reply 64
Original post by Coke Or Pepsi
I swear ugly guys find it easier...


Exactly. You get it. Unlike the others who have replied to this thread.
Reply 65
Original post by future_hopeful_uk
Do you understand what 'social status' means? If you do then you'll understand why girls like famous people or those with money!


I'm not talking about people who are famous or wealthy. I'm talking about those who are NOT famous or wealthy.

If we took an ugly guy and an ugly girl, both of whom were neither rich or famous, who would find it easier to get laid? The answer: the guy (if he has confidence and personality).
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Reply 66
Original post by philistine
Fantastic disquisition chief, though you've only proven the majority (wait, everyone except for yourself) wrong in this thread by appending a clause onto the original thread question.

The girl, hands down. She would simply have to walk into the street and flag down the nearest chap passing in a car.


I disagree. Even an ugly girl with tons of confidence would find it hard to get laid. No amount of confidence could make up for the deficiencies in her looks.

But with men, women will overlook all sorts of physical traits if he has a great personality and if he has confidence and charm etc.
After a few too many drinks, i'd probably plough through both.

Girl first though, definitely.

So girls.
Original post by Apex9
is this even a question


It has a question mark so I guess so. :tongue:
Reply 69
Original post by Ministerdonut
You are all talking rubbish, confidence ,goodlooks and all the rest is eclipsed by being a rich man when it comes to attracting women of any age . I used to work in a very to notch hotel doing security , there were some seriously hot hot chicks who would not have looked twice at these guys if they were shelf stackers or bin men.(no offence to shelf stackers or binmen I love you ). They were married to them as well, not escorts. It makes a lot more financial sense for a woman to marry these guys then just become escorts because ,the guy gets to do you and walk away if you are an escort. Whats' a couple of grand at most, compared to living in the lap of luxuary or a healthy divorce settlement in the millions if he divorces you?


The problem with guys flashing their money around to get womens' attention is that it attracts manipulative women who are only interested in the guy's money and not the guy himself.

A lot of women who date rich guys are not attracted to the guy himself, but are simply only there because they want to gain access to his money.

That's why flashing money around to try and attract women is actually detrimental to a guy's success with women.

A lot of women use rich guys for financial favours, free dinners, flattering attention, without 'putting out'....meanwhile they are shagging some alpha guy who isn't rich or famous while the rich guy thinks he's 'in there' with her by impressing her with his material wealth, his car, his big house, his yacht, etc.

I've seen this scenario happen tons of times. Also, a lot of girls think guys who flash their money round are douches.Some girls I know have told me about rich guys they've met in bars who have paid for their drinks all night, but these girls didn't sleep with the guy, they just used him for free drinks but didn't fancy him.

So the bottom line is: money alone doesn't turn a girl on or make her sexually attracted to you. Money simply 'attracts' women who are after the guy for his money, but not for who he is as a person.

Original post by Ministerdonut
Do you really think guys would be put off a girl if she was unconfident? Nope they would just see the ass and the breasts.


IF the girl is good looking yeah. If she's ugly, they wouldn't give her a second look.
Original post by Neil_K
I'm not talking about people who are famous or wealthy. I'm talking about those who are NOT famous or wealthy.

If we took an ugly guy and an ugly girl, both of whom were neither rich or famous, who would find it easier to get laid? The answer: the guy (if he has confidence and personality).


If he had personality and if you assume confidence you actually mean social status, then he's got 2x alpha traits out of the possible 3 and isn't 'ugly' to a girl.......

own goal....
Ugly girl hands down. There are more desperate guys than girls.
Original post by Neil_K
Exactly. You get it. Unlike the others who have replied to this thread.


I agree seriously.

Girls tend to look for personality... Whereas if a girl is ugly then the guy won't even give her a shot...

It's like I've seen soooo many pretty girls date ugly guys... Never seen an ugly girl with a hot guy (well, I have? But less often...)

Ps sorry for all the elipses LOOOOL :tongue:
Reply 73
Original post by future_hopeful_uk
If he had personality and if you assume confidence you actually mean social status, then he's got 2x alpha traits out of the possible 3 and isn't 'ugly' to a girl.......

own goal....


Define 'social status'. That sounds like some PUA or 'pseudo social science' theory or something

I never think about bull**** like 'social status' etc...I just concentrate on letting my real self shine in the most confident manner, and the results take of themselves.
Reply 74
Original post by Neil_K
I can't believe everyone here believes it's easier for an ugly girl to get laid than an ugly guy. You've all got it so wrong.

An ugly guy with a boatload of confidence will have no problem at all attracting women. But an ugly girl with confidence will still have problems. This is because men are attracted to women primarily by their looks (at least initially), but for women it is a guy's personality and confidence that is the most important.

This is why you regularly see ugly or average looking men with hot girls...but you rarely see hot men with ugly women.

History is littered with examples of men who were notoriously ugly yet did phenomenally well with women. For example, Voltaire, Jean Paul Satre, Casanova, David X...they were/are notoriously ugly, yet women fell for them because of their personalities and because they knew what women universally responded to. They were not 'celebrities' or anything...so it wasn't their fame women fell for, nor was it their looks!

Women are attracted to men who are ATTRACTIVE, not merely men who are good looking. Being attractive is more than just looks.

Have you ever heard the term 'sexy ugly'? This is a term women use to describe men who are not good looking, but who they are attracted to and who they find sexy. Again, this is a secret women will never reveal, but it is 100% true.

Don't believe what women SAY about this...pay attention only to what they do. There are examples all around us of ugly guys with hot girls.

A confident guy who is average looking or ugly will do better with women than a guy who has male model type looks but lacks confidence.

So really...being physically ugly isn't as big a problem for a guy as it is for a woman. Women have to rely on their looks far more than a guy to attract the attention of the opposite sex.

So the bottom line is: it's easier for ugly men (with confidence) to get laid than ugly women.


you are so wrong.
Reply 75
Original post by quintus
you are so wrong.



How so? If you're going to make the statement 'you are so wrong, state WHY you think so, so we can have a friendly philosophical discussion on the subject.
Reply 76
Is it easier for an ugly guy to get laid, or an ugly girl?


It's not going to be "easier" for anyone. They will both have to work much harder in a typical bar scenario than someone who is average looking let alone someone who is deemed as very attractive.
If you want to put this in a relationship context , then i'd say it would be nigh on impossible for a very unnattractive, overweight girl to pull someone who looks like a footballer. However it's quite possible for a unnattractive man to get whatever women he desires aslong as he has money, humor and a fun outgoing personality.
Reply 77
Original post by Coke Or Pepsi
I agree seriously.

Girls tend to look for personality... Whereas if a girl is ugly then the guy won't even give her a shot...

It's like I've seen soooo many pretty girls date ugly guys... Never seen an ugly girl with a hot guy (well, I have? But less often...)

Ps sorry for all the elipses LOOOOL :tongue:


EVERYONE take note of what this girl has said here....everyone who disagreed with me, well you've just heard it from a girl herself confirming what I said was correct.

I think my work here is done...
If you just look at the celebs and crap my point is proven

Everyone wants to hit Cheryl Cole or whatever
You don't see guys going DAYUMMMMMM Susan Boyle or DAYUMMMM Adele (even though I think she's pretty personally)

Whereas us girls find average looking famous guys (or even ugly famous guys with a seemingly cool personality) date-worthy.


I'm just saying :tongue:
Depends on which one has lower standards..

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