[there's too much love]

(Original post by SmallTownGirl)
You can but I don't think I have an answer. I'm not butch. I'm small, I love dresses, shoes and shopping, I care about how I look. I don't act 'male' (If that's possible - which I don't believe). It's more the way when someone says 'girls' I assume they're not talking to me and I cringe when I realise they are. How I'm happy to be classed as part of 'the boys' in my physics class yet I know I'm not male either.

Ah, so you're looking at behaviour/identity rather than anatomy, so it's more you're not sure which gender you are?
I thought you might be a hermaphrodite/"inter-sexual" of some sort :P: .

[SmallTownGirl]

(Original post by there's too much love)
Ah, so you're looking at behaviour/identity rather than anatomy, so it's more you're not sure which gender you are?
I thought you might be a hermaphrodite/"inter-sexual" of some sort :P: .

Yeah. Physically I'm definitely female.

[there's too much love]

(Original post by SmallTownGirl)
Yeah. Physically I'm definitely female.

Do you think the term poly-sexual applies to your sexuality?
Personally I don't understand how pan-sexuality is possible.

[SmallTownGirl]

(Original post by there's too much love)
Do you think the term poly-sexual applies to your sexuality?
Personally I don't understand how pan-sexuality is possible.

I can understand how it is possible to be pansexual. But no. I am most definitely gay. I am only attracted to female-bodied people. Even though a lot of these people have a similar non-binary gender identity to mine.

[there's too much love]

(Original post by SmallTownGirl)
I can understand how it is possible to be pansexual. But no. I am most definitely gay. I am only attracted to female-bodied people. Even though a lot of these people have a similar non-binary gender identity to mine.

To me that just doesn't make sense; because society acts on us in a certain manner, what are considered to be masculine and feminine things to do, just as what are considered to be lower class and toff things to do, seem ingrained to us through social norms. Gender isn't just a matter of actions though, but how we identify ourselves, what our body language is like, and that comes about from how others act on us. For that reason, I don't see how it is escapable.

[SmallTownGirl]

(Original post by there's too much love)
To me that just doesn't make sense; because society acts on us in a certain manner, what are considered to be masculine and feminine things to do, just as what are considered to be lower class and toff things to do, seem ingrained to us through social norms. Gender isn't just a matter of actions though, but how we identify ourselves, what our body language is like, and that comes about from how others act on us. For that reason, I don't see how it is escapable.

I don't quite understand what you mean. I can identify whatever way I want and no-one else can tell me that what I feel is wrong. I can wear a dress and feel male or wear a suit and feel female if that's how I feel. It is possible to escape society's expectations on how we feel about ourselves but it is very hard to persuade anyone else that the way we feel is right.

[there's too much love]

(Original post by SmallTownGirl)
I don't quite understand what you mean. I can identify whatever way I want and no-one else can tell me that what I feel is wrong. I can wear a dress and feel male or wear a suit and feel female if that's how I feel. It is possible to escape society's expectations on how we feel about ourselves but it is very hard to persuade anyone else that the way we feel is right.

Read gender trouble.

[SmallTownGirl]

(Original post by there's too much love)
Read gender trouble.

Why should I? For the first time ever I feel happy with who I am. I don't need some book to tell me all about it.

[FormerlyFrisbeeFan]

Hey all, I'm 26, married but bi.

[ZZ9]

Hi I'm pretty new here, I'm 17 and also near Hull. Perhaps there's something in the water...

[kerily]

(Original post by ZZ9)
Hi I'm pretty new here, I'm 17 and also near Hull. Perhaps there's something in the water...

I think I know you! Do you play tuba?

[Kerny]

So men/transgender people can't post in this thread? ATS DISKRIMINATION!

[ZZ9]

Kerily- don't know how to quote, but yes You're probably thinking of the right person, as all the other tuba players I know are either middle aged men or 13 year old boys... You're a trombonist, aren't you.

[orc7]

Cool thread! - I'm bi, live in Londonnnn

[there's too much love]

(Original post by SmallTownGirl)
Why should I? For the first time ever I feel happy with who I am. I don't need some book to tell me all about it.

Because you don't seem to understand how gender and societies work, and it's a really well written, well explored, book.
The very fact that you're even posting on an LGBT thread is reason enough for anyone to heavily suggest you give it a read.

[forsaken_earth]

(Original post by Tara_Ward)
Firstly Hello everyone it's very nice to see you all here.

This is in H&R due to a problem with creating threads in other sections of the site. If a mod is reading this and despairing at the noobishness going on right now can you move it please (really sorry btw)

Right now that's out of the way, please feel free to introduce yourself here. Tell us your likes and dislikes, hobbies and the like.

Please no troll posts/ anti homosexual posts.

Thanks everyone and be sure to join the society

Helllooo!!

I'm Anna, 20, I live in north london. Chopin, angry french people, nighttime, moody sunless weather, mustard, theatre, bad decisions, grunge, football, poetry, Milton, x-men and ants. Nature, freedom, summer, russian winter. I like the colour purple, when it goes blue.
I'd love to make some friends with lgbt girls, and go 'gaying' together =)

[forsaken_earth]

(Original post by Kerny)
So men/transgender people can't post in this thread? ATS DISKRIMINATION!

yeah get out

[SmallTownGirl]

(Original post by there's too much love)
Because you don't seem to understand how gender and societies work, and it's a really well written, well explored, book.
The very fact that you're even posting on an LGBT thread is reason enough for anyone to heavily suggest you give it a read.

WHAT? I'm gay and slightly genderqueer and thus I have to read all about it. I don't care if anyone else has the same opinion as me. I identify the way I feel.

[Pedrobear]

this is so hot

[kerily]

(Original post by ZZ9)
Kerily- don't know how to quote, but yes You're probably thinking of the right person, as all the other tuba players I know are either middle aged men or 13 year old boys... You're a trombonist, aren't you.

How is the internet such a small place? But yes, yes I am!

(It's quite depressing that there are so few non-straight XX people in our area that I automatically knew it had to be you.)