[Annoying-Mouse]

As do I but for selfish reasons. Meh, it depends on your family. Are they liberal? Do they've a western education?

[tufc]

Have them exorcised.

Bring the neg train.

[Triple_H]

(Original post by Pzychotic)
Generally I would say leave it. They are free to believe what they want to, and as others have already said, there is a great risk you will lose them entirely. I empathise with your frustrations, but you have to ask yourself if they would be happier as atheists or not. If you don't think they will disown you, there is no harm in possibly explaining your point of view, and how you arrived to it. Be sure to talk very calmly, politely and explain things down to the smallest detail. At no point should you get agitated or frustrated, even thought you might feel like it sometimes, or you will lose their respect for your opinion.

If you think explaining your beliefs in one go is too much of a challenge, try starting off with something small. If a religious discussion ever arises between your family, you can interject with a small portion of your opinion, without coming out completely as an atheist. For example, if they were talking about prayer, you could discuss whether or not praying for things can change the future, if God is omniscient and already knows the future. Just small philosophical points like this can eventually build you up to explaining your entire view.

~Ian

This is surprisingly good advise, i'll bear it in mind, thank you.

[MathsLord]

You'll get struck by lightning don't bother.

[Annoying-Mouse]

Also, lol at all the people against conversions. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. If any of you have argued you've attempted to convert someone.

[searchingshadow]

"We are spiritual beings, having a human experience"-Rumi

[Evangelica]

(Original post by Extended Arpeggio)
How about you shut the **** up you miserable excuse for a human being. God doesn't exist. Besides that, the OP has every right to try and change his families beliefs, just as theists like you everywhere try to convert people to their "One true religion", out of thousands. You're a shame on the entire human race, you still haven't figured out that God/Allah, whoever you want to refer to him as, doesn't exist. Get a clue, brah.

You can believe something without being rude. Trying to convert people to atheism is just as annoying as trying to convert people to theism, and I'm speaking as someone who's experienced both sides. Also there's a difference between "I don't believe God exists" and "God doesn't exist". Why can't people just live and let live? There'd be a lot less conflict if we did.

[searchingshadow]

(Original post by Triple_H)
I'm not going to be rude or aggressive or crazy. I just want to approach them with ideas and thoughts they've never ever had before. I'm doing them a favour.

lol, please save the self righteousness. "ideas they never had" and "i'm doing them a favor". it couldn't at all be a 'dialogue' where you exchange ideas, and listen to one another? oh no that would be too difficult

ps: i've been full circle on this (i guess you've only got pass the semi-circle)

[Whatever9999]

(Original post by Extended Arpeggio)
How about you shut the **** up you miserable excuse for a human being. God doesn't exist. Besides that, the OP has every right to try and change his families beliefs, just as theists like you everywhere try to convert people to their "One true religion", out of thousands. You're a shame on the entire human race, you still haven't figured out that God/Allah, whoever you want to refer to him as, doesn't exist. Get a clue, brah.

prove me wrong get evidences !!!!! and i'm not talking to you i'm talking to the person who wrote this thread so keep your **** to urself and let me tell you other thing in 20 years there will be 1 muslim in every 5 people so islam is growing day after dayyyy
now goo cry in ur corner

[searchingshadow]

(Original post by Annoying-Mouse)
Also, lol at all the people against conversions. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. If any of you have argued you've attempted to convert someone.

Not quite, its mearly an exchange of ideas; the progotive is on the person themselves to 'convert'.

[Triple_H]

(Original post by searchingshadow)
lol, please save the self righteousness. "ideas they never had" and "i'm doing them a favor". it couldn't at all be a 'dialogue' where you exchange ideas, and listen to one another? oh no that would be too difficult

ps: i've been full circle on this (i guess you've only got pass the semi-circle)

Oh yes. I definitely want a dialogue where we exchange ideas. But I do see it as me opening their eyes as they're currently very disillusioned not even considering their could be another side of the story.

And please you are being very patronizing suggesting you are more enlightened than anyone else.

[Whatever9999]

(Original post by amazin_sk8a_dude)
and this is exactly what is wrong with religious sheep.

Am i talking to you pig.

[Extricated]

You're an idiot, attempting to convert muslims to atheism when Islam is the complete religion.

[Annoying-Mouse]

(Original post by searchingshadow)
Not quite, its mearly an exchange of ideas; the progotive is on the person themselves to 'convert'.

You've still attempted which is what I said. Why are you exchanging ideas? In the hopes they'll accept it.

[Cesar Lecat]

I pity you

[ibysaiyan]

(Original post by Whatever9999)
prove me wrong get evidences !!!!! and i'm not talking to you i'm talking to the person who wrote this thread so keep your **** to urself and let me tell you other thing in 20 years there will be 1 muslim in every 5 people so islam is growing day after dayyyy
now goo cry in ur corner

It's growing only because of the 'kinship' which exists between the majority of the Asian/Muslim society.There is absolutely no correlation between a validity of a religion against no. of followers.

I would say: a person using his/her own logic and not limiting her/his imagination (which to theists is a gift by god) is much commendable then a bunch of illiterate,superstitious followers(not that all theists are but for most they limit their reasoning,to them questioning some uncertainty is a sin or so they are told).


What evidence to you speak of?
Could you kindly elaborate them.
Regards,
ibysaiyan

[Pzychotic]

(Original post by Annoying-Mouse)
You've still attempted which is what I said. Why are you exchanging ideas? In the hopes they'll accept it.

I don't think that's always the case. It's often mutually beneficial that both parties have a decent level of respect and understanding for each other's beliefs and values.

~Ian

[ibysaiyan]

(Original post by Extricated)
You're an idiot, attempting to convert muslims to atheism when Islam is the complete religion.

Why is he an idiot(if nothing he has used his own logic/reasoning which has been bestowed by the same creator)? and by becoming complete what has humanity gained.
I am eager for your response to this.

In response to OP, have a sensible debate and try to stay calm. I usually lose my cool during such debates. Start to question them for instance: What's the purpose of creation ? why is the east so backward ? polygamy,women rights.
Regards,
ibysaiyan

[Aku-gila]

(Original post by Triple_H)
Are there any non aggressive good texts I can use to show them how irrational and silly they're being?

I want to stop them being closed minded and be free and happy. Seeing them wake up every day in the morning is so annoying when there is no god out there. Are there any links or calm clever lectures I can show them that'll disillusion them? Surely calm reason and logic will work on them.

Thank you for all your advise

And you're not being closed-minded at all are you?

I'm not muslim but the bit in bold is quite rude. Are you saying a person cannot be muslim and happy?

[Annoying-Mouse]

(Original post by Pzychotic)
I don't think that's always the case. It's often mutually beneficial that both parties have a decent level of respect and understanding for each other's beliefs and values.

~Ian

That's not mutually-exclusive. Most (if not all) people still want the other person to embrace their viewpoint.