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Reply 60
Original post by Mr. Confused
Hey,

I just wanted to get a general opinion on something. Why do you believe Media is the flagship of all 'mickey mouse' degrees? I'm not out to defend it, but why Media in particular? If one brands it with this title, then surely the following fall victim to the term too:-

Communication.
Sociology.
Journalism.
Psychology.
Film Studies.
Cultural Studies.
Film/TV Production.
Events Management.
Hospitality Management.

Surely the above should receive the same amount of bad press as Media but that doesn't seem to be the case. Media incorporates several attributes of the courses mentioned (with exception of the bottom two) and teaches practical skills (audio/visual production) along with theory (globalisation, media imperialism, hegemony etc.)

I'm not defending it, I'm just curious to why it has been chosen as the leader of this 'soft' degree era, when in fact it is far more broad and informative than the other 'mickey mouse' degrees?

I'm not looking for a war or words, just a discussion, cheers.


I really enjoyed studying Media at A-level but the problem with it is that it is outdated very quickly, becoming irrelevent. :frown:
My Media teacher at Alevel told me once that her degree didn't look at internet because it had only just emerged. Now, pretty much all aspects of media have converged with the internet in some way.

As to your question why media in particular, I think it's the fact that it is so general. The other courses focus deeply on one area of media.
Reply 61
Original post by lechaton-x

Original post by lechaton-x
Yeah it is, you may as well just kill yourself now because no one is ever going to take you seriously.


I lol'd, but ran out of thumbs up...sorry.
Original post by Mr. Confused
Excellent point. And isn't a degree in History rather restricting? Do these people aspire to be librarians or....urm...high school History teachers. I am awfully jealous of their degree choice.


History is very well respected amongst employers, actually.
Reply 63
Original post by TurboCretin

Original post by TurboCretin
History is very well respected amongst employers, actually.


I'm certainly not denying that, I'm simply asking how many jobs does it improve employability with in comparison to Media, for example? Answer: Many, many fewer.
Reply 64
Has anyone mentioned David Beckham Studies at Staffordshire yet? :rolleyes:

Even wikipedia thinks that some degrees are 'Mickey Mouse': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse_degrees

Oh and http://newsthump.com/2010/03/18/university-cuts-threaten-degrees-in-david-beckham-studies/ is a good laugh.

Three quarters of England’s universities are facing real-term budget cuts this year threatening the very existence of degrees such as David Beckham studies at Staffordshire University.

University funding body Hefce has told institutions they will jolly well have to make do with a fund of £7.3bn £449m less than the sector was expecting.
This has led to speculation that some courses will be cut, and is bad news for students who enjoy trying to find the most obscure way to spend three years at the tax payers expense.
The degree in David Beckham studies which looks at football culture and is a very real thing is likely to be one of the first that will suffer.

Professor Cashmore, who leads the degree programme, explained, “It’s terrible news, I’ve only just set the second years a summer assignment on the cultural impact of trying to make crutches look good. I’d hate to think of all those kids out there wanting to know about the trends in mobile phone use among premier league footballers missing out, and how they will now be forced to study something really boring, like maths or History.”
“Why can’t you look to cut something really useless, like that Surf Science degree at Plymouth Uni? They all have long hair you know.”

Unhappy
Students who are currently studying at Universities across the country have expressed concern over the proposed cuts.

Shane Meadows, 19, told us, “Above all else, I wanted to do a degree in something that interested me, which is why I picked medieval fermentation techniques.”
“Yes, it might sound a bit useless right now, but after the nuclear apocalypse I’m going to be very popular indeed.”
“Those three hours of lectures are the highlight of my week and now some faceless suits with proper jobs want to take that away from me. It’s terrible.”

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Reply 65
Original post by srudland8
i am calm, i never said i was right. i was giving an opinion. yes specialising may be a good thing. but what i was trying to say is, that in the example i gave, the individual who i used will not learn in depth about the subjects her course involves not as she would if she just did a course in one. i dont understand how someone can be then specialised in say 4 subjects within the same time period as someone specialised in one. especially seeings as in theory they will only be having a year out by flopping about is las vegas in a year? i thought las vegas was a holiday destination, and i dont really see how it can relate to a course that involves education studies, social work, early years and psychology?


But it isnt multiple courses. They are all inter related, psychology can be applied in most enviroments. Vegas would be a great place for it aswell, imagine growing up in vegas, that is different and would be great to study. And also Vegas is just like any other city once you get away from the strip. There are schools, hospitals, families, and even a university.
Original post by Mr. Confused
I'm certainly not denying that, I'm simply asking how many jobs does it improve employability with in comparison to Media, for example? Answer: Many, many fewer.


Care to back that up?
Reply 67
Can I just ask if people think "paramedic science" is a mickey mouse course? It seems to tick all the boxes but it never gets brought up.
Original post by fwed1
Can I just ask if people think "paramedic science" is a mickey mouse course? It seems to tick all the boxes but it never gets brought up.


How does it "tick all the boxes'?
Reply 69
Original post by Poem boy
Economics is the biggest mickey mouse degree (when taught as Chicago School). It's whole theoretical basis is made on false pseudoscientific assumptions of human rationality and utility maximisation.

We have this discipline to thank for the 2008 financial crash.


You're clearly talking out of your arse mate.

It's one of the most respectable degrees out there, DEFINITELY.
Reply 70
There's a difference between mickey mouse and vocational.
Reply 71
Original post by *Hakz*
You're clearly talking out of your arse mate.

It's one of the most respectable degrees out there, DEFINITELY.


No I'm not.

http://www.economist.com/node/14031376?Story_ID=14031376
Original post by Curzon
There's a difference between mickey mouse and vocational.


Indeed.

Considering the term 'Mickey Mouse degree" was originally associated with degrees that have little use in current society other than as self-licking lollipops it could be argued that the term would be apt for many traditional degrees.
Reply 73
So basically, any non-Oxbridge BA degree or any course with a significant vocational element = Mickey Mouse......?
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Reply 74
You can study a lot of the more vocational subjects, the ones to do with sport and journalism, hospitality and events management for example, without going to university. Obviously they are important and demanding courses, but it seems people just chose those courses for the sake of going to uni when they could do just as well with a different type of qualification.
Reply 75
Original post by Poem boy



What statement points out that Economics is a mickey-mouse course?

I don't understand people like you at all that can't seen to reason for themselves.

The fact is no one in their right sense will agree with your absurd claim.
Original post by Poem boy
Economics is the biggest mickey mouse degree (when taught as Chicago School). It's whole theoretical basis is made on false pseudoscientific assumptions of human rationality and utility maximisation.

We have this discipline to thank for the 2008 financial crash.


Economics is Mickey Mouse?

I'll show you some MSc Economics papers from LSE that'll have you running for your mother.
Reply 77
media studies - lets invent some stereotypes and then analyse them! :h:

:facepalm:
Original post by srudland8
which also includes a year out in las vegas may i add)


I doubt that's as a holiday, it's not going to be, "Well, you did well last year, just go to Las Vegas as a treat." They'll be doing something productive out there.

Original post by SpicyStrawberry
The grades required for Media are generally much lower than for other subjects like Psychology, suggesting you need to have better qualifications to succeed on the course.


Suggests nothing of the sort. Entry requirements are based on popularity; psychology is a popular course, hence the high entry requirements. Media isn't so much of a popular course, hence the lower entry requirements.

Original post by Quick-use
You forgot to put David Beckham Studies and Surf Science.


Former is imaginary and, if you look into the latter for just a few minutes, you'll find that it actually incorporates real science and is a worthwhile course.

Original post by Mr. Confused
You're witty and I like it. I do have my own opinion however, no course is easy...except maybe 'Surf Studies'.

Original post by Lunalocket
are you kidding?! surf studies is like...the hardest degree around!

j.k its easy as f*** :wink:

(i assume!! god, dont beat me up anyone for having a joke if you're about too, seriously XD)


Again, if you looked at it for even five minutes, you'd see that it's not a joke course, it incorporates a wide range of very real, very worthy skills. It's not a course about 'how to surf', it's about physics and meteorology, materials science, ecology and business.
Reply 79
Original post by *Hakz*
What statement points out that Economics is a mickey-mouse course?

I don't understand people like you at all that can't seen to reason for themselves.

The fact is no one in their right sense will agree with your absurd claim.


It's Mickey Mouse because the current way it's taught is psuedo science. I have a degree in it and even I think it's *******s.

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