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Caggie is fit.

[emmanottinghil]

It's sooo fake and sooo gay; all the guys are total actors. The girls are the same. It did have some good jokes but they were all totally staged. Nothing like the real Chelsea believe me.

I can't believe they try and pass this play acting off as "reality TV" though - The Hills was loads better. Gossip Girl is ten times more reality and 100% proper acting.

What happened to young, dumb and living off mum - quite like that.

[toofaforu]

it's absolutely hilarious to watch. just so you know it's a complete act to live up to stereotypes. as ms. atherton puts it "that's just not me". i'm afraid no 'sloanes' are actually like this, but instead this is the new malformed view, which the creators are obviously getting the cast to live up to. still, the masses will love it.

(Original post by ipulledhermione)
I heard rahs at my uni defending them because they 'ran businesses/worked hard/wrote blogs'

The diamond miner guy = inherited **** and clearly no 'mining' or frontline is actually involved in his job, he starts off at the very comfortable position in an office.

The jewelry woman = designs jewelry...does she mine the gold, mould and create it herself? I doubt it. What does she need to kick start that business? A cash injection and access to a bunch of idiots/posh rich people who will buy it, both of whivh her privilaged background and parents can provide her with.

it's unfair because I know people from working/under class who work their asses off and no matter what they do/how hard they try these people will most likely be better off than them. I have a friend who graduated with a first in physics from Edinburgh and another with 2.2 in media information and the latter got a £30,000 p/a job at one of their dads mates offices in london (stock analysis department). I know this is not always the case but it does make you realise that success depends on more than just brains. Opportunity has so much to do with it. Of course it wasn't the posh friends fault but it's no competition if you are applying for graduate jobs in a random place along with hundreds of other applicants and when you have a connection who can set you up.

Our society creates an aim for all its citizens and that is to be successful so that your legacy lives on and your kids can also be successful and continue the wealth/knowledge/nurturing/opportunity etc to your future decendors.

Anyone I know with humble beginings who has 'made it' it now has posh rahh kids who have been brought up very differently from their parents and will lead a different life and (it is hoped) live comfortably and in wealth. We want what's best for ourselves and our kids but I do believe those chelsea brats are mostly products of people who have been given the opportunity to become successful and treat their kids.

Atleast with essex most of them are self made men/women. Their rents brought them up and they found what they were good at (promoting and stripping) and live off those kind if assets unlike the chelsea bunch.

I rambled a lot. Sorry if you actually read through it all x

you're a moron. regardless of class, i'm pretty sure most people in this country will go straight to the office if they work in material extraction. the jewelry person is actually at university, whilst running a successful business (where the aim is NOT to create jewelry), which is more than most people can claim to have done whilst at university.

you just sound a bit bitter.

[ipulledhermione]

(Original post by toofaforu)
it's absolutely hilarious to watch. just so you know it's a complete act to live up to stereotypes. as ms. atherton puts it "that's just not me". i'm afraid no 'sloanes' are actually like this, but instead this is the new malformed view, which the creators are obviously getting the cast to live up to. still, the masses will love it.




you're a moron. regardless of class, i'm pretty sure most people in this country will go straight to the office if they work in material extraction. the jewelry person is actually at university, whilst running a successful business (where the aim is NOT to create jewelry), which is more than most people can claim to have done whilst at university.

you just sound a bit bitter.

cool

[PendulumBoB]

(Original post by Milky Milk)
Ugh I really despise these kind of TV shows.

Rah's are just as bad as chavs. Even worse...

I most emphatically disagree; chavs are violent as well as the fact that they live off the state(And so are ruining things for other people) besides, people only hate "rahs" because they're jelly.

Who negged me? Declare yourself and prepare to dual

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[Troubled_Student]

Who cares if they run businesses, go to/have been to University or whatever.
They're all pricks, all of them.

[PendulumBoB]

(Original post by Milky Milk)
I don't know, I agree that they are more agressive and I'd feel intimidated if I walked past a group of then. But then I'd feel inferior walking by a group of rahs, I'm not too sure which one is worse.


You're too right I am jelly.. Of what they have, not who they are

Hey, at least you've not got their poor dress sense(Polo shirt, turned up collar-really)

[The_Male_Melons]

(Original post by ipulledhermione)
I heard rahs at my uni defending them because they 'ran businesses/worked hard/wrote blogs'

The diamond miner guy = inherited **** and clearly no 'mining' or frontline is actually involved in his job, he starts off at the very comfortable position in an office.

The jewelry woman = designs jewelry...does she mine the gold, mould and create it herself? I doubt it. What does she need to kick start that business? A cash injection and access to a bunch of idiots/posh rich people who will buy it, both of whivh her privilaged background and parents can provide her with.

it's unfair because I know people from working/under class who work their asses off and no matter what they do/how hard they try these people will most likely be better off than them. I have a friend who graduated with a first in physics from Edinburgh and another with 2.2 in media information and the latter got a £30,000 p/a job at one of their dads mates offices in london (stock analysis department). I know this is not always the case but it does make you realise that success depends on more than just brains. Opportunity has so much to do with it. Of course it wasn't the posh friends fault but it's no competition if you are applying for graduate jobs in a random place along with hundreds of other applicants and when you have a connection who can set you up.

Our society creates an aim for all its citizens and that is to be successful so that your legacy lives on and your kids can also be successful and continue the wealth/knowledge/nurturing/opportunity etc to your future decendors.

Anyone I know with humble beginings who has 'made it' it now has posh rahh kids who have been brought up very differently from their parents and will lead a different life and (it is hoped) live comfortably and in wealth. We want what's best for ourselves and our kids but I do believe those chelsea brats are mostly products of people who have been given the opportunity to become successful and treat their kids.

Atleast with essex most of them are self made men/women. Their rents brought them up and they found what they were good at (promoting and stripping) and live off those kind if assets unlike the chelsea bunch.

I rambled a lot. Sorry if you actually read through it all x

Agreed.

I would admit, if I had that sort of background, I would exploit the advantages that are on the table. Who wouldn't?

They don't have jobs. None of them do.

That Ollie (who wears makeup) is a socialite and is a promoter. He is 26 years old. 26 and a promoter. I am sat there thinking, this guy clearly is not of this world. How long will he do that job? Till he is 40. Has he thought about the future? How does he earn all that money? Mum and Dad?
Granted Markm 23 is doing something similiar but he has thought about his future and is setting up his own business. Heck, even Amy does vajazzles and has her own shop. They got jobs in TOWIE.
If heOllie gets a job in Canary Wharf, it is not because of his own merit, it is because of who his parents are.

You can't help where you come from, contacts are important and you use it to your advantage. I would do the same. I would also ensure I did it on my terms. They haven't got where they were, they given it. There is something morally wrong there.
I don't care if he is a millionaire as long as he worked for it rather than it being allowance money from mummy and daddy.

Stick the cast in Made in Chelsea in the real world- they would not survive.

[PendulumBoB]

(Original post by Milky Milk)
I like polo shirts Sans-turned up collar however

Well I messed that one up didn't I

Still, at least you have superior command of middle english words still acceptable to use today

[toofaforu]

literally everyone in this thread is just jealous. you all need to shut up about the "real world". if you think these people are the 'creme de la creme' of society you are very very sadly mistaken. none of these people's parents have made the times 100, they do not live in extreme luxury (did you see that girls mum's cottage...), i'd estimate all their families have net worths sub 5 million, except for maybe boulle, matthews and at a PUSH hugo taylor.

just so you know, being a nightclub promoter is actually an incredibly lucrative business. these are the types of clubs where they have someone spending over 1k on champagne every night. ollies parents are not some high powered anythings but a former radio presenter (LOL)

those that do not have jobs because they are still at university (amber, fredrik, boulle just finished), and the majority of the rest of the cast do, felstead worked front of house for candy, hull writes for a magazine, matthews is a broker, taylor does some PR stuff (another lucrative business). furthermore, those who are not employed appeared to have recently graduated....i doubt i will have my first serious job until i'm 22.

(Original post by ipulledhermione)
cool

the fact that you ahve a subscription to this website is just hilarious

the amount of vitriol in this thread can be largely attributed to jealousy.

[PendulumBoB]

(Original post by toofaforu)
literally everyone in this thread is just jealous. you all need to shut up about the "real world". if you think these people are the 'creme de la creme' of society you are very very sadly mistaken. none of these people's parents have made the times 100, they do not live in extreme luxury (did you see that girls mum's cottage...), i'd estimate all their families have net worths sub 5 million, except for maybe boulle, matthews and at a PUSH hugo taylor.

just so you know, being a nightclub promoter is actually an incredibly lucrative business. these are the types of clubs where they have someone spending over 1k on champagne every night. ollies parents are not some high powered anythings but a former radio presenter (LOL)

those that do not have jobs because they are still at university (amber, fredrik, boulle just finished), and the majority of the rest of the cast do, felstead worked front of house for candy, hull writes for a magazine, matthews is a broker, taylor does some PR stuff (another lucrative business). furthermore, those who are not employed appeared to have recently graduated....i doubt i will have my first serious job until i'm 22.

That's just typical, the old boys closing ranks at the first sign of trouble; people's problem is how arrogant these people are and most of the fact that their success stems from contacts as opposed to their own talent (ie. are not experiencing the world for what it truly is).

[emmanottinghil]

I'm not jealous and do find the programme both irritating and obnoxious - I like programmes about that kind of thing, this one just isn't very good. Agree that most are probably not all that rich though by Chelsea standards.

(Original post by toofaforu)
literally everyone in this thread is just jealous. you all need to shut up about the "real world". if you think these people are the 'creme de la creme' of society you are very very sadly mistaken. none of these people's parents have made the times 100, they do not live in extreme luxury (did you see that girls mum's cottage...), i'd estimate all their families have net worths sub 5 million, except for maybe boulle, matthews and at a PUSH hugo taylor.

the amount of vitriol in this thread can be largely attributed to jealousy.

[PendulumBoB]

(Original post by Milky Milk)
Hahah no

That's an english word? I only know it because I do French

I thought that it was a (middle) english word taken from french.

[toofaforu]

(Original post by PendulumBoB)
That's just typical, the old boys closing ranks at the first sign of trouble; people's problem is how arrogant these people are and most of the fact that their success stems from contacts as opposed to their own talent (ie. are not experiencing the world for what it truly is).

if you've ever stepped into a brokerage, you'd realise that unless your dad is MD, your contacts mean nothing. this is similiar to pretty much any competitive industry. some of their jobs are specifically tasked with 'who' you know promoters and PRs are essentially this - it's something they have made not their parents. at every top school there are retards and those socially apt people. i believe being socially apt and knowing and becoming acquainted with those who matter is itself a valuable skill. i know someone who's dad is a Lord, a QC and he has a first from Oxford in biology. he has had numerous internships are pharmaceutical firms, arranged by his parents, but still 2 years after graduating he has not managed to secure a job, why? because he is possibly the most socially inept person i have ever met.

[Baller]

(Original post by toofaforu)
literally everyone in this thread is just jealous. you all need to shut up about the "real world". if you think these people are the 'creme de la creme' of society you are very very sadly mistaken. none of these people's parents have made the times 100, they do not live in extreme luxury (did you see that girls mum's cottage...)

I trade iconic furniture and street art, and many of my clients live in London. I've seen so many lavishly decorated flats in London, owned by fairly young businessmen that when I saw this show I was shocked what E4 considered to be the elite of Chelsea. If anything, these people would only be eligible to work as nannies FOR the elite of Chelsea. I didn't really see much in the show that indicated serious wealth apart from the random cars at the beginning. In some of the show's promo shoots they show Caggie's home which is of B&Q interior quality and at least 20x smaller to what you'd expect from someone that drives around in a RR Phantom. Here in Manchester there are hundreds of people our age that are far more wealthy than these guys/girls.

I'm not trying to boast but even my apartment is better (size, build quality, furniture, view) than Spencer's or Hugo's! I would say that their lifestyle is definitely not upper-class but rather quite middle-class. Right now in England 'magazine' style kitchens, designer living rooms and boutique hotel standard bedrooms are becoming incredibly common, even in middle-class homes. The homes they show are very Argos-esque.

The show doesn't feature any of the Arabs and Russians that live in London that literally make more in a day than all these idiots are worth. Perhaps they wanted to keep it exclusively British?

(Original post by EssexDan86)
Can't believe that tool who was having his portrait painted while holding a globe.... wtf?!

He was quite arrogant and big-headed when he mentioned how the world would understand why he was holding a globe - is he unaware of people like Mark Zuckerberg and Dustin Moskovitz make him seem like a teenage hobo?

(Original post by Troubled_Student)
It's so, so bad. The names are ridiculous - Funda, Caggie, Binky being the culprits. All the guys are practically gay, so much so I thought one was gay even when he was having a meal with his girlfriend. It's just generally terrible and a copy of TOWIE, with one of these already having a girlfriend but a separate love interest.

Are you bashing their names because they are different? Although I do think their names sound slightly odd, I think the point was to make themselves different rather than be like everyone else. I've got a fairly unique name and let me tell you, NOBODY ever forgets it and I'm so glad my parents decided this rather than a generic name like 'John' or 'Scott'.

(Original post by Troubled_Student)
Right is he gay or not?
Because he definitely acts gay, he wears make-up, has longer hair than most girls and is just generally gay in the gayest of ways. Yet he's sitting with this girl, kissing her talking about the relationship BUT then turned down a shag from her. Confused

That Ollie character is a metrosexual and I'm surprised that nobody on this thread has mentioned that term and just goes with 'gay'. Metrosexual's are basically lesbians in a man's body - they are men that take care of themselves in a feminine way but are still very much into girls. In my 1st year I did turn into a bit of a metrosexual but ended the phase as I noticed I was only attracting incredibly vain women and actually turning off the good girls.

I'd turn down a shag from his girlfriend even if I was single. That girl just has something wrong with her…like her mouth surgery went wrong with a really unattractive lisp when she talks, and her neediness is a turnoff. All this just kills all the attraction (kind of like when a hot girl has bad breath).

The show would have been very likeable if they had chosen better characters, preferably of whom are actually the elite of London that work for a living. Even the wealthiest people in the world still work.

[Nutta!]

(Original post by ipulledhermione)
I heard rahs at my uni defending them because they 'ran businesses/worked hard/wrote blogs'

The diamond miner guy = inherited **** and clearly no 'mining' or frontline is actually involved in his job, he starts off at the very comfortable position in an office.

The jewelry woman = designs jewelry...does she mine the gold, mould and create it herself? I doubt it. What does she need to kick start that business? A cash injection and access to a bunch of idiots/posh rich people who will buy it, both of whivh her privilaged background and parents can provide her with.

it's unfair because I know people from working/under class who work their asses off and no matter what they do/how hard they try these people will most likely be better off than them. I have a friend who graduated with a first in physics from Edinburgh and another with 2.2 in media information and the latter got a £30,000 p/a job at one of their dads mates offices in london (stock analysis department). I know this is not always the case but it does make you realise that success depends on more than just brains. Opportunity has so much to do with it. Of course it wasn't the posh friends fault but it's no competition if you are applying for graduate jobs in a random place along with hundreds of other applicants and when you have a connection who can set you up.

Our society creates an aim for all its citizens and that is to be successful so that your legacy lives on and your kids can also be successful and continue the wealth/knowledge/nurturing/opportunity etc to your future decendors.

Anyone I know with humble beginings who has 'made it' it now has posh rahh kids who have been brought up very differently from their parents and will lead a different life and (it is hoped) live comfortably and in wealth. We want what's best for ourselves and our kids but I do believe those chelsea brats are mostly products of people who have been given the opportunity to become successful and treat their kids.

Atleast with essex most of them are self made men/women. Their rents brought them up and they found what they were good at (promoting and stripping) and live off those kind if assets unlike the chelsea bunch.

I rambled a lot. Sorry if you actually read through it all x

Yeah but some of the 'chelsea rah type people' that have made the best of their education and wealth. Holly Branson- UCL medic? Our own prime minister- David Cameron... the Mayor of London...

[ipulledhermione]

(Original post by Nutta!)
Yeah but some of the 'chelsea rah type people' that have made the best of their education and wealth. Holly Branson- UCL medic? Our own prime minister- David Cameron... the Mayor of London...

Of course they have! And good on them for it.

[PendulumBoB]

(Original post by toofaforu)
if you've ever stepped into a brokerage, you'd realise that unless your dad is MD, your contacts mean nothing. this is similiar to pretty much any competitive industry. some of their jobs are specifically tasked with 'who' you know promoters and PRs are essentially this - it's something they have made not their parents. at every top school there are retards and those socially apt people. i believe being socially apt and knowing and becoming acquainted with those who matter is itself a valuable skill. i know someone who's dad is a Lord, a QC and he has a first from Oxford in biology. he has had numerous internships are pharmaceutical firms, arranged by his parents, but still 2 years after graduating he has not managed to secure a job, why? because he is possibly the most socially inept person i have ever met.

What's your point? Some people take advantage of the opportunities daddy brings, some don't, but most don't even get those extra opportunities in the first place.

[toofaforu]

(Original post by PendulumBoB)
What's your point? Some people take advantage of the opportunities daddy brings, some don't, but most don't even get those extra opportunities in the first place.

my point was most opportunities aren't provided by daddy at all, well i guess you could quantify going to a public school wehre you'd make some of these connections as an 'opportunity from daddy'

(Original post by Baller)
I trade iconic furniture and street art, and many of my clients live in London. I've seen so many lavishly decorated flats in London, owned by fairly young businessmen that when I saw this show I was shocked what E4 considered to be the elite of Chelsea. If anything, these people would only be eligible to work as nannies FOR the elite of Chelsea. I didn't really see much in the show that indicated serious wealth apart from the random cars at the beginning. In some of the show's promo shoots they show Caggie's home which is of B&Q interior quality and at least 20x smaller to what you'd expect from someone that drives around in a RR Phantom. Here in Manchester there are hundreds of people our age that are far more wealthy than these guys/girls.

I'm not trying to boast but even my apartment is better (size, build quality, furniture, view) than Spencer's or Hugo's! I would say that their lifestyle is definitely not upper-class but rather quite middle-class. Right now in England 'magazine' style kitchens, designer living rooms and boutique hotel standard bedrooms are becoming incredibly common, even in middle-class homes. The homes they show are very Argos-esque.

The show doesn't feature any of the Arabs and Russians that live in London that literally make more in a day than all these idiots are worth. Perhaps they wanted to keep it exclusively British?

i think the reason for it is because most of the genuine 'chelsea set' (more the lifestyle this programme pertains too) (many who don't even live in chelsea anymore as well) do not want to be associated with this programme. none of the people are like this in real life, francis boulle does not wear saville row suites everyday, usually a t shirt and jeans. the show has basically created personalities for real people. none of the actual influential/socialite/rich people in west london are like the stereotype.

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