Doctor Who - Discussion Thread II

Slag is more of a generic word these days used in the same way as 'that hammer is gay'. Feminist rants are a tad tiresome when you spend a lot of time in university at them.

Amy is more than sexually confident. Sexual confidence is a good thing. Knowing who you are etc is a good thing. However, this is a family show (I think they should drop that tag and aim slightly more mature but whatever) and people don't want to have to explain to their kids why a woman who is in a relationship is flirting with another man. And she is doing it even though her boyfriend has met the new man.

Think of it in purely childish terms. The way kids get taught life. Man loves woman, woman loves man, they get married and love eachother forever.
Then on a show aimed at that age group you have. Man loves woman, woman says she loves man, woman flirst aggressively and sexually with man 2, man 1 is now confused and parents are having to explain things they probably can't be bothered doing on a Saturday night.

"I'm a screamer" is something that can be taken two ways so works perfectly, like the original Shrek film etc. However, Amy is a lot more 'physical' about her flirting. She was also introduced as a kissogram which is something quite hard to explain to kids, especially as, yet again, she is in a relationship.

As I said earlier, I like that she is putting it out there as we get more o her but you need to think of the age group this show is aimed at.

But what agegroup is the show aimed at? I've seen everything from 'family show' to 'kids show' to 'adults only'.

I think that Doctor Who should be aimed at an older than general 'family' audience. As it works much better. For family enteratinment there is already Merlin. So DW should be pushed into the higher age realm. They would hopefully be able to discuss the philosophical aspects of the show a bit more then

I am looking forward to the day the writers of DW don't have to rely on paradoxes/deus ex machinas/timey-wimey to tell a story. Then, in my opinion, it would be more accepted outside of the family/sci fi realms.

I read that a while ago and I can kind of understand what he's trying to say but I don't agree with it because the writer, like many others seems to underestimate the current generation. I can't go into detail as I'm off to bed and I really hate using anecdotal evidence, but I know a lot of kids that age that have found it easy to understand the storyline and actually understand what's going on. So the whole kids are being left behind thing is too patronising, although it's definitely something that should be taken into account.

I think Doctor Who is a level above Merlin in that it is far more complex whilst still being able to be viewed on a simple level. Merlin is just so uncomplicated it's ridiculous. Last series was a bit better, but it also had some of the stupidest episodes ever, that I'm sure even Children felt were awful (I'm looking at you Goblin's Gold!)

Merlin is so bad it is brilliant. But you must get the gist of the argument. And if DW is aimed at the same people at Merlin (which it seems to be judging by advertisements and time slots etc) then you can see why some people would be quite miffed at the way DW is heading.

I suppose yes. My thinking is that they have to advertise to children, more than they need to advertise to adults. Adults in general already know if they like it, and it's unlikely an advertising campaign will change their minds about it. They need to target the children so that more parents watch it. So the programme is aimed at everyone, with a slant towards more die-hard fans, while the advertising campaign is generally directed at children. Except for the adverts that were deemed too scary for children, apparently.

I think the "hard to follow" thing that people are complaining about is more that they're impatient and want their answers right away, like they are used to. It probably wont be hard to follow when the series is finished, people just can't seem to understand that, and children DEFINITELY wont be patient enough. It's a good move for the programme though.

Interesting, I just just watched the episode now.

I do kind of agree with the person/ people saying that they should aim for a slightly higher target audience.

Question ahead:



Edit: Not sure about the rules on spoilers... so I just put it in a spoiler. o.o

If you went back 10 pages, you'd know since we only discussed it 2 or more pages ago. Consensus seems to be in favour of a physical manifestation of the TARDIS.

Shes very pretty
No, she didn't have her parents for a long time, maybe its something to do with that

Just a thought, didn't the Doctor's daughter leave in a spaceship a few seasons ago and was then never mentioned again?

Sorry if this has already been covered..