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Does anyone know any gifted people?
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guest1984
So, anyone know any gifted student?
So, anyone know any gifted student?
yes, loads of my classmates get gifts for xmas
mangomaz
I disagree...there are people for example that are talented at music and there are people who are gifted. Theres a huge difference!
But surely "gifted" and "talented" are the same? There's no semantical difference, as far as I know.
The only difference in educational jargon is that one means you're good at passing exams, one means you're good with music/sport/drama.
Both are very far away from the sort of exceptionality that Newton or Einstein had.
gifted in the strict sense of the word means
someone who has been given a gift
that could b beauty, common sense, taste, physical perfomance, intelligence, and just about everything i guess
someone who has been given a gift
that could b beauty, common sense, taste, physical perfomance, intelligence, and just about everything i guess
no need to 
i was just thinkin, didnt mean to contradict anyone 
i was just thinkin, didnt mean to contradict anyone 
Princess Ana
But surely "gifted" and "talented" are the same? There's no semantical difference, as far as I know.
The only difference in educational jargon is that one means you're good at passing exams, one means you're good with music/sport/drama.
Both are very far away from the sort of exceptionality that Newton or Einstein had.
The only difference in educational jargon is that one means you're good at passing exams, one means you're good with music/sport/drama.
Both are very far away from the sort of exceptionality that Newton or Einstein had.
A talented musician can I dont know.. get a distinction at grade 8 piano when they're 16. They have a very high aptitude for it. A gifted musician will do the same when they're say, 8 years old. Thats just an example I've made up
Exactly. A gifted person usually has a natural aptitude for something, requiring little tuition to acheive it, whether it be academically, musically, or athletically.
Gifted? Well academically no i'm not particularly gifted but im very gifted at sport - county level badminton and tennis, good standard at table tennis and football too.
Gifted academically? There was one bloke in a politics class two years back now, in my first year at university and he was just out of this world...pretty mesmerizing (sp inc?).
Gifted academically? There was one bloke in a politics class two years back now, in my first year at university and he was just out of this world...pretty mesmerizing (sp inc?).
Ive never met anyone i would describe as naturally gifted.
Giftedness to me has been about ability - I would happily class a drop-out with amazing perception of scientific facts above someone who, if the serendipity hadn't struck them, would be at best a good scientist. A lot of people would disagree and many people I know believe that if potential isn't cashed in as a person progresses through life, then they no longer count. That to me is greatness or eminence; it has nothing to do with being gifted.
If someone's raw ability is such that they are not only better than their peer group but seem to be able to act with fluency that just seems natural, that's a gift. I don't think you can tell it on qualifications alone, which by their very nature are a benchmark for the average student. Gifted people are anything but average.
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To me, those who are gifted feel that the activity is instinctive. Those who are talented are those who can do well, but perserverence and practice are required to do so.
Having met an awful lot of the individuals at the very top of the country in the sciences/Maths/debating, I would say I've only met a handful of people I would consider "gifted" at what they do. Not even every national champion I'd classify as gifted. Talented, certainly. But you have to draw a distinction between someone who gets to that league with seemingly no effort and can *just see* what needs to be done, than someone possessing the ability to draw distinctions and knows from experience what needs to be done.
If someone's raw ability is such that they are not only better than their peer group but seem to be able to act with fluency that just seems natural, that's a gift. I don't think you can tell it on qualifications alone, which by their very nature are a benchmark for the average student. Gifted people are anything but average.
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Princess Ana
Define talented then.
To me, those who are gifted feel that the activity is instinctive. Those who are talented are those who can do well, but perserverence and practice are required to do so.
Having met an awful lot of the individuals at the very top of the country in the sciences/Maths/debating, I would say I've only met a handful of people I would consider "gifted" at what they do. Not even every national champion I'd classify as gifted. Talented, certainly. But you have to draw a distinction between someone who gets to that league with seemingly no effort and can *just see* what needs to be done, than someone possessing the ability to draw distinctions and knows from experience what needs to be done.
There's usually stories behind these "gifted" people though. And a lot of it is down to experience.
Take Amir Khan the boxer for example, he appears to be gifted, way above his peers, but people didn't actually know the amount of fights he had actually had pre Athens 2004. It wasn't like he just appeared from nowhere. When you look at it like that, it seems we only call people gifted when WE OURSELVES ACTUALLY hear of them or see them. Don't get me wrong he has to have some aptitude to be there at such a young age, but athletically there are many more people out there as talented, it's just that they may not have had the experience or opportunity.
How many inner city kids are there with talent, but because they cannot afford to go to Eton and the like they will never realise their true potential?
A lot of these "gifted" people unless they have the determination to break through barriers, often fall by the wayside.
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Also, actually talk to a lot of these "gifted" athletes, i.e. Roger Federer and he will tell you thathe has worked hard to get to where he is now.
PS - Sorry about the sporting examples but I am an athlete myself and I fiind it easier as I don't know anyone who is academically "gifted".
It is my opinion that there's always more to it than meets the eye. I've nevermet anyone who completely defies scientific logic.
Take Amir Khan the boxer for example, he appears to be gifted, way above his peers, but people didn't actually know the amount of fights he had actually had pre Athens 2004. It wasn't like he just appeared from nowhere. When you look at it like that, it seems we only call people gifted when WE OURSELVES ACTUALLY hear of them or see them. Don't get me wrong he has to have some aptitude to be there at such a young age, but athletically there are many more people out there as talented, it's just that they may not have had the experience or opportunity.
How many inner city kids are there with talent, but because they cannot afford to go to Eton and the like they will never realise their true potential?
A lot of these "gifted" people unless they have the determination to break through barriers, often fall by the wayside.
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Also, actually talk to a lot of these "gifted" athletes, i.e. Roger Federer and he will tell you thathe has worked hard to get to where he is now.
PS - Sorry about the sporting examples but I am an athlete myself and I fiind it easier as I don't know anyone who is academically "gifted".
It is my opinion that there's always more to it than meets the eye. I've nevermet anyone who completely defies scientific logic.
Platocrates
*******s.
I am a naturally good speller, I didn't do it by reading books at all, I just happen to be very good from birth. I'm not saying it should be a marker of intelligence, I'm merely saying that surely a high level grasp of English is desirable for any real academic/genius. I'd be shocked if I saw a Oxbridge lecturer for example having trouble spelling words.
I am a naturally good speller, I didn't do it by reading books at all, I just happen to be very good from birth. I'm not saying it should be a marker of intelligence, I'm merely saying that surely a high level grasp of English is desirable for any real academic/genius. I'd be shocked if I saw a Oxbridge lecturer for example having trouble spelling words.
I deduce spellings all the time, and am usually right. I'd call that a 'gift', even if it doesn't necessitate intelligence.
Platocrates
Also, actually talk to a lot of these "gifted" athletes, i.e. Roger Federer and he will tell you thathe has worked hard to get to where he is now.
PS - Sorry about the sporting examples but I am an athlete myself and I fiind it easier as I don't know anyone who is academically "gifted".
It is my opinion that there's always more to it than meets the eye. I've nevermet anyone who completely defies scientific logic.
Also, actually talk to a lot of these "gifted" athletes, i.e. Roger Federer and he will tell you thathe has worked hard to get to where he is now.
PS - Sorry about the sporting examples but I am an athlete myself and I fiind it easier as I don't know anyone who is academically "gifted".
It is my opinion that there's always more to it than meets the eye. I've nevermet anyone who completely defies scientific logic.
Well my dad used to tutor this boy who was gifted at maths (he was a family friend). He didnt have those pushy parents either that just make them work all the time. He was just amazing at maths. I think sitting your maths A level when you're in year 9 and getting an A takes a pretty giften person. And he was on a tv programme about gifted people so I say he's gifted
I've just repeated an earlier post I know..
So going off some previous posters definitions of 'talented' and 'gifted' - take the example of Wayne Rooney, the Manchester United footballer, and his girlfriend Coleen McGloughlin (something like that).
Rooney is immensely 'gifted' in what he does, whereas his girlfriend is errr 'talented' in the shopping context...but you can barely call selfish expenditure of her shopping as a 'talent'!...
Rooney is immensely 'gifted' in what he does, whereas his girlfriend is errr 'talented' in the shopping context...but you can barely call selfish expenditure of her shopping as a 'talent'!...
pineapple_face
Who were you expecting to meet, Superman? 
What defies scientific logic is someone that has supposedly never read a book in their lives, yet still claims to get First Class Honours in every university essay.
(Don't watch the hyperbole)
Firebird
Btw, if you did national debating then I think you may know my super genius friend, although he's the year above you and I have no idea how the debating works in terms of ages/years.
Btw, if you did national debating then I think you may know my super genius friend, although he's the year above you and I have no idea how the debating works in terms of ages/years.
... who would that be? Probably... (And yes, debating is all ages thrown together normally!)
Sure i know gifted people some guy i knew got A* in every GCSE he done and he took maths a year early and done AS french a year early also he done single sciences A* in every subject.
At A level he got AAAAA for maths, further maths, french, physics, chemistry
But he does commit to lots of work. I have known him since gcse's. Hes just too clever and does the same amount of work as normal.
At A level he got AAAAA for maths, further maths, french, physics, chemistry
But he does commit to lots of work. I have known him since gcse's. Hes just too clever and does the same amount of work as normal.
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