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  1. technik's Avatar
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    punishment?
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    personally i'd have all 4 imprisoned for life (and that means life) or if you like, lined up and shot as a cheaper alternative

    thoughts?
  2. Socrates's Avatar
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    The randomness of it makes me even more sick.

    Kids these days. :rolleyes:
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    I think they should be denied the rest of their youthhood, but I don't think they are that irreversibly f***ed up that they deserve to rot for the rest of their lives. No less than 10 years though for sure.
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    I'd say life and they can come out in 10 years if they've been good boys in jail. I'm too soft.
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    Anything less the death penalty would be a joke. We are talking about the British "justice" system though, so I expect most of them to be out in 3-5 years.
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    Anything less the death penalty
    Civilised people got rid of it a while ago. Get with the programme.
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    Come on guys. They make me as sick as they do the rest of you, but if you call for say, execution- for a 15 year old girl- what do you do when a 40 year old rapes and murders a dozen women?
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    (Original post by Socrates)
    Civilised people got rid of it a while ago. Get with the programme.
    You "civilized people" are the ones who produced these murderers.
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    Life without possibility of parole.
  10. Bismarck's Avatar
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    (Original post by cheesecakebobby)
    Come on guys. They make me as sick as they do the rest of you, but if you call for say, execution- for a 15 year old girl- what do you do when a 40 year old rapes and murders a dozen women?
    If you give life in prison to someone who commits one first-degree murder, what do you do to someone who murders a thousand?
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    (Original post by Socrates)
    I'd say life and they can come out in 10 years if they've been good boys in jail. I'm too soft.
    As soft as a pensioner's turd. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    You "civilized people" are the ones who produced these murderers.
    Oh and remind me of the people who possess guns in the home?
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    If you give life in prison to someone who commits one first-degree murder, what do you do to someone who murders a thousand?
    That's usually a matter for the war courts. But without going into a boring philosophical discussion about justice nobody can give a definitive answer on this. I just hope that sentancing takes into account more than the fact of what crime was committed.
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    The question is, what to do with the state school system they were spawned from? The answer is simple - burn all the schools down (leaving the handful of good comprehensives and grammars) and replace them with private schools, hence eliminating the problem in the long run rather than simply finding a short term remedy. What happens to the thugs after this is irrelevant - execution, torture, life-long imprisonment (and hence BUGGERY, HAHA), or perhaps old-fashioned burning at the stake - either way the problem would have been solved.

    Or did they go to private school?
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    (Original post by cheesecakebobby)
    That's usually a matter for the war courts. But without going into a boring philosophical discussion about justice nobody can give a definitive answer on this. I just hope that sentancing takes into account more than the fact of what crime was committed.
    The point still stands. If you oppose giving the maximum punishment because someone can conceivably commit a more horrible crime, why don't you take the same position on life in prison? Surely life without parole should be reserved for the worst serial murderes as it wouldn't be fair otherwise?

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    (Original post by Socrates)
    Oh and remind me of the people who possess guns in the home?
    Every Swiss male has a semi-automatic in his home and the murder rate in Switzerland is significantly lower than it is in Britain.
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    (Original post by cheesecakebobby)
    Come on guys. They make me as sick as they do the rest of you, but if you call for say, execution- for a 15 year old girl- what do you do when a 40 year old rapes and murders a dozen women?
    execute them too?
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    The murder rate in the US hasn't reduced because of the death penalty. End of.
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    Every Swiss male has a semi-automatic in his home and the murder rate in Switzerland is significantly lower than it is in Britain.
    But probably for a whole host of different reasons.

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    (Original post by Socrates)
    The murder rate in the US hasn't reduced because of the death penalty. End of.
    I think it has. The death penalty was reintroduced in the US in the mid 70's. I think the murder rate is lower today than it was then.
  19. technik's Avatar
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    (Original post by Socrates)
    The murder rate in the US hasn't reduced because of the death penalty. End of.
    this thread is about punishment, not how said punishment effects murder rates
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    (Original post by Howard)
    But probably for a whole host of different reasons.
    Probably, which does suggest that having weapons at home does not have much of an effect on crime. Therefore, the high crime rate in the US can't be attributed to possession of guns.

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    (Original post by Socrates)
    The murder rate in the US hasn't reduced because of the death penalty. End of.
    Firstly, irrelevant. Secondly, you're wrong.
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