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    (Original post by TempleQC)
    This is gonna be me this time next year...
    My goal is Oxford but my GCSE's aren't great.
    9A's 3B's and a D...
    Any advice would be handy?
    kid on the first page got into Oxford with A*BBBCCC (something similar..) Username is James something. If you were to get top AS grades i.e 90%+ you've got a better shot at Cambridge.
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    (Original post by Akiraryuu)
    Are you planning on coming back to Malaysia after you graduate? If yes, then it doesn't really matter much about Bristol's ranking - it is still a reputable uni.
    Hi Akirayuu,

    I know. Even in Malaysia it's a very reputable uni, Bristol grads get top jobs and we even have some politicians and big shot corporate leaders who are Bristol law graduates. Precisely why I'm not really concerned about the alleged fall in ranking. XD Where do you go/are going to go? )
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    (Original post by AnonCoconut)
    Hi Akirayuu,

    I know. Even in Malaysia it's a very reputable uni, Bristol grads get top jobs and we even have some politicians and big shot corporate leaders who are Bristol law graduates. Precisely why I'm not really concerned about the alleged fall in ranking. XD Where do you go/are going to go? )
    For Malaysian firms, it really doesn't matter which uni you go to (as long as it's in the top 20 excluding Oxbridge, Oxbridge gets priority over anything else). They prefer UK grads than local grads, sad but true - I've spoken to a few partners from small-sized firms and they've confirmed this.

    I'm heading off to Nottingham, if I get my grades. Hahaha
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    (Original post by Tsunami2011)
    kid on the first page got into Oxford with A*BBBCCC (something similar..) Username is James something. If you were to get top AS grades i.e 90%+ you've got a better shot at Cambridge.
    Thanks for telling me
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    (Original post by Akiraryuu)
    For Malaysian firms, it really doesn't matter which uni you go to (as long as it's in the top 20 excluding Oxbridge, Oxbridge gets priority over anything else). They prefer UK grads than local grads, sad but true - I've spoken to a few partners from small-sized firms and they've confirmed this.

    I'm heading off to Nottingham, if I get my grades. Hahaha
    Haha..Malaysia boleh. XD Good on you, go to the uni you like.
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    Hey people. Just a question. SOAS or Exeter?
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    (Original post by ancienttt)
    Hey people. Just a question. SOAS or Exeter?
    Exeter.

    SOAS does some funny modules, see their law page.
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    (Original post by tehforum)
    Exeter.

    SOAS does some funny modules, see their law page.
    True enough. Probably not as funny for me as I'm Asian? Intending to return there for work . Now what? :X
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    LOL it took me almost six months after getting the first offer for the last. :O
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    (Original post by ancienttt)
    True enough. Probably not as funny for me as I'm Asian? Intending to return there for work . Now what? :X
    Exeter has marginally better rep, SOAS does modules which might be more applicable to your home country. I don't think not going to SOAS would be detrimental to you though, and in that sense I'd probably still go for Exeter.

    Worth bearing in mind that London and Exeter are very different places to study.
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    Hey everyone, SOAS or Leicester? Both LLB
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    (Original post by jointmeat)
    Hey everyone, SOAS or Leicester? Both LLB
    I would say SOAS, just for the London (aka right-in-the-middle-of-the-law) aspect. Although that would be more expensive. I don't like Leicester as I live right nearby and just think eww a bit. (to the City) uni is apparently good. I always though it weird to go to SOAS and not study OAS, but there you go. I would rather be a student in London than Leicester. Visit them.
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    (Original post by Crystalique)
    =( I guess we just have to wait till after Easter to know! Yep I want to sort accommodation out but luckily after going to my open day for offer holders at LSE I found out its not first come first serve so not too worried anymore =D!

    Well if they've put you in the holding then they definitely like you and you stand a good chance I'm sure it'll be fine =) finger crossed for us all!!
    Well we'll be able to check UCAS for offers starting tomorrow hopefully they won't drag this out past this week, this is ridiculously stressful! Lol back to checking my email every 5 minutes...
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    (Original post by mathsmusicfrench)
    I would certainly say Durham over Bristol. I would suggest King's as the best but obviously you know all the disadvantages of the location (but there are some advantages!) but you should never go to a uni that you don't want to go to.

    Bristol is a very nice city, Nice old uni has a good reputation. I've never been to Durham but its reputation and league table spots are top notch. Sounds a very academic place, people say it is quite small. Also its in the North, dunno if you're up for that... :P Think about your next steps too BPTC? LPC? and where you might do them. Only word of caution about Bristol, as I will repeat below, I have heard people who know things say it is on the decline somewhat. However its reputation will remain strong long after (if) it loses league table places. Visit them both.



    I think graduating in 2012, Bristol certainly, but graduating in 2015/16 I'm not so sure. From what I've seen, Exeter is very up-and-coming (I've said this a number of times on TSR) (note recent promotion to Russell Group) From what I've heard Bristol is losing its edge somewhat. Visit both places, not necessarily on an open day. You can get a good feel for Exeter by walking around the campus and although Bristol is set within a city you can do the same kind of thing (Beware hills in both cases!!) You could probably do them both in one day if you live miles away - straight down the M5!
    If by 'losing its edge' you mean occupying lower positions in the rankings, that is largely due to student satisfaction ratings. It would be wrong to think that Bristol is losing it academically, or with employers.
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    (Original post by TurboCretin)
    If by 'losing its edge' you mean occupying lower positions in the rankings, that it is largely due to student satisfaction ratings. It would be wrong to think that Bristol is losing it academically, or with employers.
    Still undecided between Bristol and Durham...my concern with Durham is the grades are A*AA which I am not sure I will definitely reach, whereas Bristol is AAA - on this practical front, Bristol is better. I am uncertain as to why Durham think they merit asking for A*AA though this year - is it that they are looking for a higher calibre of student which will in turn increase their reputation and quality in the future?
    If I put Durham as my firm choice, I would most probably put Bristol as my second, insurance choice - and if there is a likelihood I don't achieve the A*, I will have missed out on picking my top choice of accommodation etc. for Bristol.

    The college system at Durham appeals to me in terms of getting to know people/all accommodation is sorted as are all meals. But Bristol's location wins for me.

    Also, for some reason people on here seem to perceive Bristol quite negatively saying the law department/departments in general are not as good as they once were, and that Durham is on the up whilst Bristol maybe declined somewhat - perhaps based on the fact it is lower down in the ratings for law currently? But overall, the general consensus by teachers/general people's opinions and employers all point to Bristol being considered on an equal footing with Durham? Should I take this view of Bristol rather than the largely negative one portrayed by some people here/what the league tables show about Bristol being much lower?

    And of course, I suppose it would be better to get a first at Bristol than a 2:1 from Durham i.e. the quality of your degree is more important than the university itself, seeing as they are both traditional good universities.

    I think, putting aside academics and reputation/league tables, my decision boils down to how much I value the collegiate system and small feel of Durham over it's far northern location/higher entrance grades? And whether Bristol's lower grade and pleasant city outweighs accommodation further from the university itself and less cohesion with everything more dispersed/on a larger scale.

    Nice to have the choice of such good unis and I think essentially, whatever the decision, you live by it and will be happy at whichever. But, any other thoughts?
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    Hi all! Looking for a little bit of advice from anyone in the know...

    I'm currently sitting on offers from Durham, KCL and Newcastle. If I was to take them, Newcastle would be my insurance, with one of the other two as my first choice. Unfortunately I was rejected by Oxford, probably on the account of relatively mediocre GCSEs.

    So, the big question! KCL or Durham? Or even reapply to Cambridge, who apparently interview more (which I've been told plays to my strengths) and look at GCSEs less? And if I did this, would I have any chance of regaining the offers I already have next year?

    Anyone who could give any advice would be greatly appreciated! And generously paid in positive rep
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    (Original post by georget1)
    Still undecided between Bristol and Durham...my concern with Durham is the grades are A*AA which I am not sure I will definitely reach, whereas Bristol is AAA - on this practical front, Bristol is better. I am uncertain as to why Durham think they merit asking for A*AA though this year - is it that they are looking for a higher calibre of student which will in turn increase their reputation and quality in the future?
    If I put Durham as my firm choice, I would most probably put Bristol as my second, insurance choice - and if there is a likelihood I don't achieve the A*, I will have missed out on picking my top choice of accommodation etc. for Bristol.

    The college system at Durham appeals to me in terms of getting to know people/all accommodation is sorted as are all meals. But Bristol's location wins for me.

    Also, for some reason people on here seem to perceive Bristol quite negatively saying the law department/departments in general are not as good as they once were, and that Durham is on the up whilst Bristol maybe declined somewhat - perhaps based on the fact it is lower down in the ratings for law currently? But overall, the general consensus by teachers/general people's opinions and employers all point to Bristol being considered on an equal footing with Durham? Should I take this view of Bristol rather than the largely negative one portrayed by some people here/what the league tables show about Bristol being much lower?

    And of course, I suppose it would be better to get a first at Bristol than a 2:1 from Durham i.e. the quality of your degree is more important than the university itself, seeing as they are both traditional good universities.

    I think, putting aside academics and reputation/league tables, my decision boils down to how much I value the collegiate system and small feel of Durham over it's far northern location/higher entrance grades? And whether Bristol's lower grade and pleasant city outweighs accommodation further from the university itself and less cohesion with everything more dispersed/on a larger scale.

    Nice to have the choice of such good unis and I think essentially, whatever the decision, you live by it and will be happy at whichever. But, any other thoughts?
    First off, I don't think that self-carering and living further from university is necessarily a bad thing. I did my undergrad degree in London, where I never lived closer than a fifteen minute walk from uni and had to cook for myself and run my own errands. I didn't like the idea much at the time, but in retrospect I think that this was good life experience. The fact that I was not tied down to a meal schedule was also a massive bonus, meaning I could eat what I wanted when I wanted.

    It would certainly be better to get a 1st from Bristol than a 2.1 from Durham. To get a 2.1 comparable to a Bristol 1st you would probably need to attend Oxford or Cambridge.

    I don't know wherher Durham is on the up. I do get the impression that neither Bristol nor Durham are as prestigious as they were 30 years ago, when they were the natural and immediate secondary choices for Oxford and Cambridge applicants.

    A friend of mine at Bristol did his undergrad in law at Durham, and told me early on that he wishes he had gone to Bristol instead. He found Durham too provincial and quiet, and believe me as a law student you will need to let some steam off.
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    (Original post by FrogInABog)
    Hi all! Looking for a little bit of advice from anyone in the know...

    I'm currently sitting on offers from Durham, KCL and Newcastle. If I was to take them, Newcastle would be my insurance, with one of the other two as my first choice. Unfortunately I was rejected by Oxford, probably on the account of relatively mediocre GCSEs.

    So, the big question! KCL or Durham? Or even reapply to Cambridge, who apparently interview more (which I've been told plays to my strengths) and look at GCSEs less? And if I did this, would I have any chance of regaining the offers I already have next year?

    Anyone who could give any advice would be greatly appreciated! And generously paid in positive rep
    King's and Durham are set in radically different environments. I think that is much more significant than any academic distinction that might exist between them.
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    (Original post by georget1)
    Still undecided between Bristol and Durham...my concern with Durham is the grades are A*AA which I am not sure I will definitely reach, whereas Bristol is AAA - on this practical front, Bristol is better. I am uncertain as to why Durham think they merit asking for A*AA though this year - is it that they are looking for a higher calibre of student which will in turn increase their reputation and quality in the future?
    If I put Durham as my firm choice, I would most probably put Bristol as my second, insurance choice - and if there is a likelihood I don't achieve the A*, I will have missed out on picking my top choice of accommodation etc. for Bristol.

    The college system at Durham appeals to me in terms of getting to know people/all accommodation is sorted as are all meals. But Bristol's location wins for me.

    Also, for some reason people on here seem to perceive Bristol quite negatively saying the law department/departments in general are not as good as they once were, and that Durham is on the up whilst Bristol maybe declined somewhat - perhaps based on the fact it is lower down in the ratings for law currently? But overall, the general consensus by teachers/general people's opinions and employers all point to Bristol being considered on an equal footing with Durham? Should I take this view of Bristol rather than the largely negative one portrayed by some people here/what the league tables show about Bristol being much lower?

    And of course, I suppose it would be better to get a first at Bristol than a 2:1 from Durham i.e. the quality of your degree is more important than the university itself, seeing as they are both traditional good universities.

    I think, putting aside academics and reputation/league tables, my decision boils down to how much I value the collegiate system and small feel of Durham over it's far northern location/higher entrance grades? And whether Bristol's lower grade and pleasant city outweighs accommodation further from the university itself and less cohesion with everything more dispersed/on a larger scale.

    Nice to have the choice of such good unis and I think essentially, whatever the decision, you live by it and will be happy at whichever. But, any other thoughts?
    This is a really good problem to have!

    I agree with you that what I think it boils down to is which of the two you prefer - essentially they are extremely different universities.

    I've noticed a lot of TSR users talking down on Bristol, saying that it isn't the University that it used to be. I'm not really sure how true that is, because a lot of it seems to be based on either a) opinions that they've read on tsr b) it has a lower amount of applicants this year c) it's place in the league tables. I think what you have to remember is that the league tables change year-on-year, based on a number of factors and the ranking of the University you attend could be pretty different by the time you graduate, same with how many people apply each year.

    No matter what anyone says, Durham and Bristol are both prestigious and I dont think going to either would harm your chances of a career. This year, the percentage of graduates getting a career after six months for Durham was 79% and 76% for Bristol, so it's not really that much difference if that's what you're worried about. I think this choice is solely down to personal preference - I guess you'll have to decide which one you like best.

    Have you visited both the unis?
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    (Original post by georget1)
    Still undecided between Bristol and Durham...[etc]
    I would hate you to think my comments on Bristol above, and in other places are designed to be negative. In no way could I or anyone else justify a view that Bristol is not a fantastic city and university, with a solid reputation as a leading UK institution. Some of the comments made are being hyper-critical, in order to attempt to distinguish between two very good unis.

    All of your arguments are sound, grades, 2.1 v 1st etc. Don't therefore be put off by people (me) saying that Bristol is perhaps slightly less good, if anything there's nanometres in it and everything I've mentioned is not significant enough to outweigh other factors, like those you mention. Because the decision is yours to make, and I might be wrong, or I might even be a 10 year old Swedish kid who's never been to the UK, or heard of its universities, who knows?

    I would maintain though (and this applies to anybody) that the best way to choose is by visiting each uni, however costly and time-consuming and unnecessary that seems.

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