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Original post by farrar
would it be stupid to reject the opportunity to study at UCL?


I turned down an unconditional offer from UCL because I thought the course (and other extraneous factors) were better elsewhere. I really wanted to go there, but thought it was more sensible to not. Don't know if that was an error or not, will soon find out.
Original post by farrar
I have applied for Law with German Law


Just read that. Had negative reviews of the UCL Law/French Law course. (Which is why I applied straight Law at UCL and then picked a French Law course elsewhere. Don't know if thats the same for German though.
Reply 3662
I hold unconditionals for SOAS and Queen Mary and having visited them both I still can't decide. Any opinions would be helpful!
Original post by hiyamynameissoph
This is a really good problem to have!

I agree with you that what I think it boils down to is which of the two you prefer - essentially they are extremely different universities.

I've noticed a lot of TSR users talking down on Bristol, saying that it isn't the University that it used to be. I'm not really sure how true that is, because a lot of it seems to be based on either a) opinions that they've read on tsr b) it has a lower amount of applicants this year c) it's place in the league tables. I think what you have to remember is that the league tables change year-on-year, based on a number of factors and the ranking of the University you attend could be pretty different by the time you graduate, same with how many people apply each year.

No matter what anyone says, Durham and Bristol are both prestigious and I dont think going to either would harm your chances of a career. This year, the percentage of graduates getting a career after six months for Durham was 79% and 76% for Bristol, so it's not really that much difference if that's what you're worried about. I think this choice is solely down to personal preference - I guess you'll have to decide which one you like best.

Have you visited both the unis?


Might be worth pointing out that these figures in themselves are not particularly useful for choosing law schools. Any law graduate who has secured a training contract by the end of his or her degree will be in the throes of the LPC 6 months after graduation, not in employment.

P.S. I think I may have accidentally negged you. If so, will atone.
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Original post by TurboCretin
Might be worth pointing out that these figures in themselves are not particularly useful for choosing law schools. Any law graduate who has secured a training contract by the end of his or her degree will be in the throes of the LPC 6 months after graduation, not in employment.

P.S. I think I may have accidentally negged you. If so, will atone.


Though to make plot even thicker, students on the LPC "count" as in graduate employment for these statistics as do students doing a masters because they have failed to get a job!
Original post by Bekah91
I hold unconditionals for SOAS and Queen Mary and having visited them both I still can't decide. Any opinions would be helpful!


Same here, still have to visit both of them too. :/
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Original post by theracinghammock
Same here, still have to visit both of them too. :/


I've visited each of them twice now and have changed my opinion. I originally preferred SOAS (definitely swayed by the location) but after a lot of thought I think Queen Mary will be best for me as a more traditional university. Which are you leaning towards?
I'm currently also favoring QMUL, as SOAS has a different vibe than what I'm going for. Sure, the location is appealing, however I wouldn't mind taking the subway into the city either. QMUL just seems to have the edge right now, but I'm not sure until I've actually visited the universities. :frown:
Original post by Bekah91
I've visited each of them twice now and have changed my opinion. I originally preferred SOAS (definitely swayed by the location) but after a lot of thought I think Queen Mary will be best for me as a more traditional university. Which are you leaning towards?



Original post by theracinghammock
I'm currently also favoring QMUL, as SOAS has a different vibe than what I'm going for. Sure, the location is appealing, however I wouldn't mind taking the subway into the city either. QMUL just seems to have the edge right now, but I'm not sure until I've actually visited the universities. :frown:


It always strikes me as odd that yo ucan go to the University of London's School of Oriental and African studies and study something which is neither Oriental or African. Would that play a part in your decision making at all? Just saying. (I'm trying to say, in terms of a Uni character, Law doesn't seem to be one of its specialisms, do you think that matter? I don't know the answer, don't know SOAS at all, just being l'avocat du diable as it were)

Oh and P.S. subway? Wowzer, have they extended it across the Atlantic now? Cool. :P
Original post by mathsmusicfrench
It always strikes me as odd that yo ucan go to the University of London's School of Oriental and African studies and study something which is neither Oriental or African. Would that play a part in your decision making at all? Just saying. (I'm trying to say, in terms of a Uni character, Law doesn't seem to be one of its specialisms, do you think that matter? I don't know the answer, don't know SOAS at all, just being l'avocat du diable as it were)

Oh and P.S. subway? Wowzer, have they extended it across the Atlantic now? Cool. :P


No more peculiar than reading law at LSE or business administration at Imperial.
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Original post by mathsmusicfrench
It always strikes me as odd that yo ucan go to the University of London's School of Oriental and African studies and study something which is neither Oriental or African. Would that play a part in your decision making at all? Just saying. (I'm trying to say, in terms of a Uni character, Law doesn't seem to be one of its specialisms, do you think that matter? I don't know the answer, don't know SOAS at all, just being l'avocat du diable as it were)

Oh and P.S. subway? Wowzer, have they extended it across the Atlantic now? Cool. :P


No I think you're right. One of the things that put me off was the specialist nature of SOAS as I'm just looking to do a traditional law degree. I fear that the lecturers at SOAS would find it more difficult to be passionate about this, considering that they specialise in African and Oriental fields of law. I don't doubt that it would be a great uni if that's what you were looking for. On the contrary, law is at the centre of Queen Mary being one of the leading departments there. Thanks to this and multiple other factors I think my mind is finally made up!
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Original post by theracinghammock
I'm currently also favoring QMUL, as SOAS has a different vibe than what I'm going for. Sure, the location is appealing, however I wouldn't mind taking the subway into the city either. QMUL just seems to have the edge right now, but I'm not sure until I've actually visited the universities. :frown:


Yeah, I went to both of them today and Queen Mary seemed a bit more relaxed to me. I also thought the campus was really nice, better that I remembered from my first visit. Everyone at SOAS looks a bit too much like they're trying to be cool, perhaps I'm wrong but I have read a lot about SOAS online (literally everything I can find) and a worrying amount supports this assumption. Will you get a chance to visit before the deadline?
Original post by mathsmusicfrench
It always strikes me as odd that yo ucan go to the University of London's School of Oriental and African studies and study something which is neither Oriental or African. Would that play a part in your decision making at all? Just saying. (I'm trying to say, in terms of a Uni character, Law doesn't seem to be one of its specialisms, do you think that matter? I don't know the answer, don't know SOAS at all, just being l'avocat du diable as it were)

Oh and P.S. subway? Wowzer, have they extended it across the Atlantic now? Cool. :P



As far as I know SOAS is considered to be one of the top universities for the LLB degree, not only for it's fancy Oriental and African modules. Though not ranking as high as UCL and LSE etc., it fares pretty well against the rest.

@Bekah:
Yeah, I will. My offer from QMUL came in pretty late, which gives me till June to decide which is gonna be my firm choice! I hope that will clear things up for me. Damn, last year I was debating whether to skip school for a day or not and now I'm choosing between two universities where I'll stay 3 years of my life. :/
Original post by Jackasaurus Rex
I thought it was quite unusual, as initially I had planned on applying there with the previous AAAb + LNAT requirements. Then I decided it would be too much hassle considering I probably wouldn't get an offer. On the UCAS website for 2012 requirements it initially stated AAAa + LNAT, which differed to the KCL website. So I emailed KCL and they came back to me with A*AAa + LNAT, which seems a bit strange to me considering there are law schools which are just as good that ask for lower grades.


Hi Jackasaurus,

I felt the exact same thing when I was browsing for unis to apply to. Oxford accepts AAA and King's A*AA. I applied for King's, though, with an AAA forecast and got an offer. Although I'm not sure if my offer will actually remain, cause my final results were A*AB only.. So I doubt I'll be going there ultimately. But yeah, I don't see the point of an A*AA requirement if it reduces the number of applicants for King's... *scratches head*
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Original post by AnonCoconut
Hi Jackasaurus,

I felt the exact same thing when I was browsing for unis to apply to. Oxford accepts AAA and King's A*AA. I applied for King's, though, with an AAA forecast and got an offer. Although I'm not sure if my offer will actually remain, cause my final results were A*AB only.. So I doubt I'll be going there ultimately. But yeah, I don't see the point of an A*AA requirement if it reduces the number of applicants for King's... *scratches head*


Reducing the number of applicants is precisely the purpose of the A*AA offer :smile:

If they have 10 A*AA applicants for every place, having to evaluate any more is unnecessary, additional work for admissions staff.
Is there anywhere I could find average GCSE/A-level results of students at each of the better law schools? University websites, perhaps? Thanks :smile:
Original post by gainsbourg
Is there anywhere I could find average GCSE/A-level results of students at each of the better law schools? University websites, perhaps? Thanks :smile:


Probably not. Which were you thinking of? you might be able to find it for specific Oxbridge colleges and possibly LSE.. and I saw somewhere that Nottingham look for mainly A*/As on their site somewhere.
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Original post by theracinghammock
As far as I know SOAS is considered to be one of the top universities for the LLB degree, not only for it's fancy Oriental and African modules. Though not ranking as high as UCL and LSE etc., it fares pretty well against the rest.

@Bekah:
Yeah, I will. My offer from QMUL came in pretty late, which gives me till June to decide which is gonna be my firm choice! I hope that will clear things up for me. Damn, last year I was debating whether to skip school for a day or not and now I'm choosing between two universities where I'll stay 3 years of my life. :/


just to point out, when looking at just University top lists for law, Queen Mary is right now the place to be noted being fourth right behind Oxford, Cambridge and UCL, which is firstly amazing, second, its nice to live, since accomodation is not the most expensive, and you are really close to the centre. And they have amazing internships with big law firms. and the legal advice centre. and I have now been there twice and the people are really nice, and it is a very stimulating environment. Also they are now part of the Russel Group, boosting its image
Original post by sarah peacehope
just to point out, when looking at just University top lists for law, Queen Mary is right now the place to be noted being fourth right behind Oxford, Cambridge and UCL, which is firstly amazing,


Original post by Tsunami2011


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