[Doughnuts!!]

(Original post by ukdragon37)
I think it's Thursday this week, as start of week 1 is supposed to be when lectures start - hence fresher's week being in week 0 of Michaelmas. Best to ask your supervisor when exactly it's due though.

(Original post by Zoedotdot)
Lectures start this Thursday. I have deadlines tomorrow, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Sunday, the following Monday and then that Tuesday. I have no idea how I was set so much work that I have this many deadlines, but it is sadly the case. Therefore, Friday of week 1 is this Friday 20th and that's when the problem sheet will most likely be due.

EDIT: I've actually already missed a deadline as well - apparently I had a translation due at some point in the past. Potentially last week, but I have no recollection of ever being told this. Oh well

(Original post by TheUnbeliever)
I think your supervision is this Friday 20th.

This can't be right though! My Friday supervision is supposed to be in the same week as a supervision I have on Wednesday. My first Wednesday supervision is on the 25th...

AAAAARGH, this is confusing.

[TheUnbeliever]

(Original post by Doughnuts!!)
AAAAARGH, this is confusing.

So email your supervisor. (Maybe some supervisors do it differently, but mine have always started weeks on Thursday and counted from week zero the Thursday before the start of term.)

[gethsemane342]

(Original post by Doughnuts!!)
This can't be right though! My Friday supervision is supposed to be in the same week as a supervision I have on Wednesday. My first Wednesday supervision is on the 25th...

AAAAARGH, this is confusing.

I'm fairly sure law views the weeks as being Week 1 is next Monday to Friday. Anytime I've had a supervision in the Thursday/Friday of Week 1, we've been asked specifically if we don't mind going. And to do otherwise would make my CPE Supervision suddenly join the same day as my Conflicts Supo or have my conflicts supo suddenly be the day after my labour supo...

[Zoedotdot]

(Original post by Doughnuts!!)
This can't be right though! My Friday supervision is supposed to be in the same week as a supervision I have on Wednesday. My first Wednesday supervision is on the 25th...

AAAAARGH, this is confusing.

I would count that Friday and that Wednesday as being in the same week (as would most of Cambridge). Week 1 begins on Thursday 19th and ends on Wednesday 25th, according to the university calendar. It's been so long since I thought in weeks that ended with a weekend that this seems like the obvious right answer, but maybe Law organise themselves differently. Certainly, my supervisors have so little respect for weekends that I've had essay deadlines on Sundays very frequently for the whole time I've been here. You should email your supervisor to check, but certainly according to the calendar Friday week 1 is this Friday 20th.

Even if it is due then, can you not get the work done on time anyway? I have four essays to write before that date, the beginning of term is always like this!

(Original post by gethsemane342)
I'm fairly sure it'll be 27th. Put it this way.

My Labour supo = Wednesday Wk 1
CPE Supo (from last term) = Friday, 2 days later AKA Friday Wk 1
Conflicts Supo = Thursday Wk 2 (always week after Labour)

If we take this Thursday as starting, my CPE supo (if my supervisor hadn't changed) would be on Friday.

2 weeks later would change this to being the day after my Conflicts Supo instead of the day after my labour supo which is what it always was. There's no real reason for it to change.

That is really confusing This Wednesday is still Week 0. Next Wednesday is the end of week 1, and that Thursday (your Conflicts sup) is the beginning of week 2. Therefore Friday week 1 is this Friday. According to the general university calendar anyway, but perhaps your supervisors name weeks differently? I've never encountered anyone doing it that way though, that's such a headache!

[gethsemane342]

(Original post by Zoedotdot)
I would count that Friday and that Wednesday as being in the same week (as would most of Cambridge). Week 1 begins on Thursday 19th and ends on Wednesday 25th, according to the university calendar. It's been so long since I thought in weeks that ended with a weekend that this seems like the obvious right answer, but maybe Law organise themselves differently. Certainly, my supervisors have so little respect for weekends that I've had essay deadlines on Sundays very frequently for the whole time I've been here. You should email your supervisor to check, but certainly according to the calendar Friday week 1 is this Friday 20th.

Even if it is due then, can you not get the work done on time anyway? I have four essays to write before that date, the beginning of term is always like this!



That is really confusing This Wednesday is still Week 0. Next Wednesday is the end of week 1, and that Thursday (your Conflicts sup) is the beginning of week 2. Therefore Friday week 1 is this Friday. According to the general university calendar anyway, but perhaps your supervisors name weeks differently? I've never encountered anyone doing it that way though, that's such a headache!

I think it's because we sort out new supervisors and supervision times for the year in the first week but no supervisor wants to supervise before we've had lectures on the subject (or, indeed, give us 1 day to read!). So we count week 1 as being the week after. So we technically have supervisions starting on Week 3 but we consider them Week 2. And we have to have 4 supervisions per subject per term.

It helps to put it in terms of dates instead.

[Zoedotdot]

(Original post by gethsemane342)
I think it's because we sort out new supervisors and supervision times for the year in the first week but no supervisor wants to supervise before we've had lectures on the subject (or, indeed, give us 1 day to read!). So we count week 1 as being the week after. So we technically have supervisions starting on Week 3 but we consider them Week 2. And we have to have 4 supervisions per subject per term.

It helps to put it in terms of dates instead.

I couldn't handle that, it's so confusing! But yeah, dates are easier to figure out. I've just got so used to the Cambridge system of weeks that I even thought like that when I was in Russia. I'm never going to be able to get used to Monday-Friday timetabling again.

Oh well, back to Buffy and attempting to ignore that term has arrived

[gethsemane342]

(Original post by Zoedotdot)
I couldn't handle that, it's so confusing! But yeah, dates are easier to figure out. I've just got so used to the Cambridge system of weeks that I even thought like that when I was in Russia. I'm never going to be able to get used to Monday-Friday timetabling again.

Oh well, back to Buffy and attempting to ignore that term has arrived

Ha ha, it just means we can be supervised in Week 9. It's actually normal timetabling, it's the rest of the Uni and lectures which are odd.

[Zoedotdot]

(Original post by gethsemane342)
Ha ha, it just means we can be supervised in Week 9. It's actually normal timetabling, it's the rest of the Uni and lectures which are odd.

Normal and Cambridge aren't concepts that frequently overlap

Even without 'normal' timetabling I still get to be supervised in week 9. And week 0. Oh finals. No doubt when I'm here over Easter I'll manage to get supervisions in week 10 or 11 as well, supervisors can be so cruel.

[gethsemane342]

(Original post by Zoedotdot)
Normal and Cambridge aren't concepts that frequently overlap

Even without 'normal' timetabling I still get to be supervised in week 9. And week 0. Oh finals. No doubt when I'm here over Easter I'll manage to get supervisions in week 10 or 11 as well, supervisors can be so cruel.

Ha ha, I actually started panicking, thinking my CPE Supo might be this Thursday. I've literally just remembered that our supervisor wants it in week 1 but specifically said "If I do it on the Thursday, you'll have had 2 lectures by then" so yeah, law does generally do it as Monday-Friday weeks.

I don't generally have Week 0 ones. Maybe it'll change since I have finals this year too...

[Canned Door]

(Original post by gethsemane342)
but no supervisor wants to supervise before we've had lectures on the subject (or, indeed, give us 1 day to read!).

You make it seem as though supervisors in, like, every other department are completely unreasonable or something...

[gethsemane342]

(Original post by Canned Door)
You make it seem as though supervisors in, like, every other department are completely unreasonable or something...

... At the beginning of the year, you seriously only get 1 day or so to read for a Thursday Week 1 Supervision?

Thank God I picked law!

[Zoedotdot]

(Original post by gethsemane342)
Ha ha, I actually started panicking, thinking my CPE Supo might be this Thursday. I've literally just remembered that our supervisor wants it in week 1 but specifically said "If I do it on the Thursday, you'll have had 2 lectures by then" so yeah, law does generally do it as Monday-Friday weeks.

I don't generally have Week 0 ones. Maybe it'll change since I have finals this year too...

This is the first time I've had a week 0 one, but I always have things in week 9. Perhaps we're just disorganised - the one I have on Tuesday is making up for one last term where my essay was a bit rubbish, my supervision partner's essay was entirely absent and my supervisor was having six supervisions in one day and cancelled ours so she could go and get a coffee

(Original post by Canned Door)
You make it seem as though supervisors in, like, every other department are completely unreasonable or something...

A good point! I don't think I've ever written an essay where I've actually had lectures on it first

(Original post by gethsemane342)
... At the beginning of the year, you seriously only get 1 day or so to read for a Thursday Week 1 Supervision?

Thank God I picked law!

As I said to CD, I never have lectures on a topic before I'm supervised on it. We do all our reading in advance of the supervision (and the lectures), write an essay based on that and then spend the supervision being told why we were wrong. However, as literature essays are usually about creative analysis rather than fact dumping that makes sense - you develop your own opinion based on your reading of the text and other secondary sources, and then the supervision helps you through the process of developing that thought through being relentlessly challenged and the lectures usually provide an alternative opinion and a little bit more information on how the topic is tied together.

[TheUnbeliever]

(Original post by gethsemane342)
... At the beginning of the year, you seriously only get 1 day or so to read for a Thursday Week 1 Supervision?

No, our supervisions just start in a later week. (Or the latter end of week 1.)

EDIT: Unless supervisions are left over from a previous term, obv.

[Zoedotdot]

(Original post by TheUnbeliever)
No, our supervisions just start in a later week. (Or the latter end of week 1.)

EDIT: Unless supervisions are left over from a previous term, obv.

But don't you have work and stuff to do over Christmas? I have a supervision this Friday (week 1) for which I'm handing in an essay on Thursday.

Although I guess other people switch supervisors between terms? My department is pretty tiny so we don't move around a lot, and if we do all our teaching is centralised anyway so we get emails about essay titles and so on.

[TheUnbeliever]

(Original post by Zoedotdot)
But don't you have work and stuff to do over Christmas? I have a supervision this Friday (week 1) for which I'm handing in an essay on Thursday.

See the edit But, yeah, we usually have a new supervisor for each course. Have had some supervisors more than once, but mostly because a later year has a more advanced course in the same topic (e.g. IB compilers and II optimising compilers).

[Doughnuts!!]

(Original post by gethsemane342)
I'm fairly sure law views the weeks as being Week 1 is next Monday to Friday. Anytime I've had a supervision in the Thursday/Friday of Week 1, we've been asked specifically if we don't mind going. And to do otherwise would make my CPE Supervision suddenly join the same day as my Conflicts Supo or have my conflicts supo suddenly be the day after my labour supo...

(Original post by Zoedotdot)
I would count that Friday and that Wednesday as being in the same week (as would most of Cambridge). Week 1 begins on Thursday 19th and ends on Wednesday 25th, according to the university calendar. It's been so long since I thought in weeks that ended with a weekend that this seems like the obvious right answer, but maybe Law organise themselves differently. Certainly, my supervisors have so little respect for weekends that I've had essay deadlines on Sundays very frequently for the whole time I've been here. You should email your supervisor to check, but certainly according to the calendar Friday week 1 is this Friday 20th.

Even if it is due then, can you not get the work done on time anyway? I have four essays to write before that date, the beginning of term is always like this!



That is really confusing This Wednesday is still Week 0. Next Wednesday is the end of week 1, and that Thursday (your Conflicts sup) is the beginning of week 2. Therefore Friday week 1 is this Friday. According to the general university calendar anyway, but perhaps your supervisors name weeks differently? I've never encountered anyone doing it that way though, that's such a headache!

Oh Cambridge, why can't you be more normal?

I have mocks and a mooting competition this week so it'll be impossible to do all the supervision reading and the problem Q if the supervision is indeed on Friday.

[Zoedotdot]

(Original post by TheUnbeliever)
See the edit But, yeah, we usually have a new supervisor for each course. Have had some supervisors more than once, but mostly because a later year has a more advanced course in the same topic (e.g. IB compilers and II optimising compilers).

It's not left over from a previous term though, I had four supervisions in this paper last term, and this is the first of my four this term. We were just set the work for over Christmas. Ditto all my other supervisions and classes in week 1.

I do have a supervision this week that is left over from last term, but that's on Wednesday and it's a different paper

I guess the difference is that we study all five of our papers for the entire year, so there's no real opportunity to switch supervisors.

[gethsemane342]

(Original post by TheUnbeliever)
No, our supervisions just start in a later week. (Or the latter end of week 1.)

EDIT: Unless supervisions are left over from a previous term, obv.

*shrugs* Law has fairly rigid timetabling. We book the timeslots, they can't change unless the supervisor is ill or something. We have to have 4 supervisions a term for each subject and they can't run over to another term unless the supervisor was ill (only happened once to me). I guess it's just that some supervisions technically start in Week 3 but we just don't call it that. If your supervision is in Week 1, it will be the week after you booked the supervision.

(Just checked with another law student to ensure I'm not going mad. He assures me I'm not and that our Supervision Week 1 does start on Monday)

[TheUnbeliever]

(Original post by Zoedotdot)
It's not left over from a previous term though, I had four supervisions in this paper last term, and this is the first of my four this term. We were just set the work for over Christmas. Ditto all my other supervisions and classes in week 1.

In that case, no. We don't specifically get set Christmas work, although it's entirely conceivable that other colleges do. The only time we've had anything like you describe was in first year, where we had the same supervisor for our one-quarter natsci option all year. Like you say, most of our courses are about 4 weeks long or so, although the exam structure changes fairly significantly for each Part.

[Craghyrax]

(Original post by Zoedotdot)
Third ski trip - third injury. A bruised coccyx this time, largely because I was wearing well fitting and comfortable boots (woo snowboarding), wrist guards and a helmet so I was fast running out of places to injure. It was still fun even if I appear to be too fragile to cope

Maybe its a sign

(Original post by Zhen Lin)
Huh? The 19th is the start of week 1, as far as I know...

(Original post by Doughnuts!!)
AAAAARGH, this is confusing.

You guys know there are two different types of University term dates? Full University term, I think, is the one which starts Tuesdays and finishes Fridays. The other sort of term time is the one starting on Thursdays.