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Can leftwingers like the royal family?

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    (Original post by Fusilero)
    Probably because the left-right wing classification system is fundamentally flawed in that it assumes people's political opinions are exclusively bidirectional :holmes:
    Well done that man
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    I don't really mind them myself and I'd say I'm left-wing. However part of me can't get over the fact that, no matter how hard you work or how gifted you are, a citizen of this country could never become head of state. Something just seems very wrong about that. So I'm kind of torn in two at the moment.
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    (Original post by Sim188)
    I don't mind them, and I support labour,

    But the only reason I don't mind them is because of the functional aspect of the dosh they bring to the UK
    http://www.republic.org.uk/What%20we...rism/index.php
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    Yeah.
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    I got no problem with the royal family, but they are a bit of a waste of money :/

    Also barely anybody's left wing or right wing, people actually have opinions.
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    I'm very left in terms of the economy, very liberal... and I adore the monarchy. "God" bless the Queen.
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    I don't see the Monarchy as a left or right wing issue. You either believe in Republicanism or you don't - whether you are Labour, Liberal or Tory.
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    (Original post by JoeLatics)
    "In politics, Right, right-wing and rightist are generally used to describe support for preserving traditional social orders and hierarchies."
    That's facile. It would suggest in an uncontacted tribe or even a socialist country where monarchy is not a traditional practice that attempting to create a monarchy would be an extremely left-wing practice.

    I would also suggest that Margaret Thatcher was a rather left-wing Prime Minister.
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    Far-left wing pour vie!
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    I'm left and right, depending on the issue.

    I have nothing against the Royal Family, I just don't see why we need to keep them.
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    Well, depends on how you mean 'like'. A left winger may like the royal family or a member of it on the basis of personality and whatnot, but you wouldn't really be much of a leftie if you like the royal family as a symbol of the ideology and system they represent.
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    (Original post by JoeLatics)
    "In politics, Right, right-wing and rightist are generally used to describe support for preserving traditional social orders and hierarchies."
    Conservatism is generally more associated with traditionalism. However I could well be a "left winger" as OP puts it in regards to pursuing an enlarged welfare state but also a traditionalist in the sense that I also believe in preserving the traditional institutions of the country.

    It may surprise you but this isnt football. You are allowed to "change sides" with regards to different issues and topics.
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    (Original post by adam_zed)
    Conservatism is generally more associated with traditionalism. However I could well be a "left winger" as OP puts it in regards to pursuing an enlarged welfare state but also a traditionalist in the sense that I also believe in preserving the traditional institutions of the country.

    It may surprise you but this isnt football. You are allowed to "change sides" with regards to different issues and topics.
    For roughly the 718th time this thread, yes, you can be left wing and be a monarchist. Monarchism is a right wing ideology. Those 2 statements do not contradict, and both are true. OK?
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    (Original post by JoeLatics)
    For roughly the 718th time this thread, yes, you can be left wing and be a monarchist. Monarchism is a right wing ideology. Those 2 statements do not contradict, and both are true. OK?
    Sorry I misread your post (though you appear to be having a go at me despite agreeing with what I am saying?)
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    If you're a dogmatic left-winger, then probably not. If you're a more pragmatic left-winger, then yes.
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    Yes. They act as a permanent reminder of the inherent inequalities in our society and so are compatible with left leaning ideology regarding equality. Were they not there, society may take the view it is a fairer system than it actually is. The monarchy may in fact be a means to achieving greater fairness (as oxymoronic as that may seem) which I pressume is a main priority of the left.

    Marxists would probably have a lot to say about this. I guess it depends whether you favour values and ideals or actual outcomes. There would appear to be a slight conflict here.

    ....and also some people just find them interesting/amusing/endearing. Besides, opinion isn't binary, you aren't either Left or Right, there's a whole contnuum of belief and ideals.
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    Im quite left, but think the positives of the royal family outweigh the negatives, so theres your answer
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    (Original post by JoeLatics)
    Of course they can. But monarchy is a right wing ideology.
    Number one, monarchy isn't necessarily an 'ideology' per se and secondly, the concepts of left and right emerged after monarchical institutions, which have been around for thousands of years.

    This is merely a leftist attempt to portray the right as being everything 'bad' in the world - from hereditary monarchies to fascism to racism - encompassing every last badism in the world. Of course, this suits the left very well; for the more you denigrate your adversary, the better you yourself appear in the process.
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    I do, so yes
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    Monarchy isn't really a Left- Right issue.

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