[jakemittle]

(Original post by tedward78)
As a small nation, the Republic of Fiji fully supports the proposed changes to the SC and would prefer either more SC members and/or each region being represented by at least one nation.

Nigeria agrees with Fiji

[thunder_chunky]

(Original post by rockrunride)
The UK disagrees. Opinions change and regional cultures are less likely to do so.

The USA suggests putting a clause in so that if any countries do become radical and unfit to remain in the SC they can be removed. Either by a vote in the SC or one in the GA. Or both.

[DayneD89]

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=1693498

[AspiringGenius]

Uganda believes there should be 8 permanetnt members of the security council- to represent the countries in G8, while perhaps there could even more, non-permanent members so more countries can get involved.

[DayneD89]

(Original post by AspiringGenius)
Uganda believes there should be 8 permanetnt members of the security council- to represent the countries in G8, while perhaps there could even more, non-permanent members so more countries can get involved.

The DPRK strongly opposes this idea. The G8 nations do not include China, a country we feel is very important economicaly, democraticaly and politically. It also includes Japan, a nation we do not support becoming a member of the Security Council. The G8 would simply mean more power to Europe (Indeed half of the G8 are European).

[AspiringGenius]

(Original post by DayneD89)
The DPRK strongly opposes this idea. The G8 nations do not include China, a country we feel is very important economicaly, democraticaly and politically. It also includes Japan, a nation we do not support becoming a member of the Security Council. The G8 would simply mean more power to Europe (Indeed half of the G8 are European).

Uganda feels there could be a compromise that means countries such as China could be included.

We do feel, however, that being a major world economy, Japan should be included.

[DayneD89]

(Original post by AspiringGenius)
Uganda feels there could be a compromise that means countries such as China could be included.

We do feel, however, that being a major world economy, Japan should be included.

While that is one issue with your proposal, having 4 European nations (and the European Union, depending on how you define G8) is something the DPRK cannot support. The DPRK opposes the inclusion of Japan as a permanent member of the Security Council, however we have also called for an extension of non-permanent seats to the Security Council, including one with a veto. While we would likely not support their bit to gain this position it would be possible for them to do so.

[AspiringGenius]

(Original post by DayneD89)
While that is one issue with your proposal, having 4 European nations (and the European Union, depending on how you define G8) is something the DPRK cannot support. The DPRK opposes the inclusion of Japan as a permanent member of the Security Council, however we have also called for an extension of non-permanent seats to the Security Council, including one with a veto. While we would likely not support their bit to gain this position it would be possible for them to do so.

The proportion of european countries would actually decrease, considering there are 3 European nations in the current SC, while if we were to change to the countries in the G8 then there would be only 5 (counting Russia who's government and administration is in Physical and political Europe) and even less if we were to include China.

Uganda questions the DPRK's concerns about Japan being in the SC.

[DayneD89]

(Original post by AspiringGenius)
The proportion of european countries would actually decrease, considering there are 3 European nations in the current SC, while if we were to change to the countries in the G8 then there would be only 5 (counting Russia who's government and administration is in Physical and political Europe) and even less if we were to include China.

Uganda questions the DPRK's concerns about Japan being in the SC.

Russia is rather seperate from Europe politicaly. Indeed we would argue that the US is closer to Europe politically than Russia is. The DPRK has put forward a proposal which can be found here.

[AspiringGenius]

(Original post by DayneD89)
Russia is rather seperate from Europe politicaly. Indeed we would argue that the US is closer to Europe politically than Russia is. The DPRK has put forward a proposal which can be found here.

What the DPRK feels is correct, isn't physically or literally.

Russia is a European(/Asian) nation and the USA is a North American one.

[DayneD89]

(Original post by AspiringGenius)
What the DPRK feels is correct, isn't physically or literally.

Russia is a European(/Asian) nation and the USA is a North American one.

The DPRK is fully aware of where these nations are located physicaly, we are stating where they are politically. Giving 6/8 of the SC seats to what is usually termed 'western' nations is something we cannot support. It gives too much power to the western allies and the DPRK is very surprised that this is what Uganda is calling for.

[Theconomist]

(Original post by thunder_chunky)
The USA suggests putting a clause in so that if any countries do become radical and unfit to remain in the SC they can be removed. Either by a vote in the SC or one in the GA. Or both.

Qatar believes that it would be biased and subjective to label a country ''radical'' and would like to remind the US that if it wasn't the world's only superpower it would be considered a radical state due to it's interference in world events throughout the 20th and 21st century. Qatar does understand the USA's position however and remains a loyal ally.

Mexico supports the USA and would like to add to the debate that permanent members should be subject to a vote every half a century to ensure continuity.

[frankayak]

Latvia realises the important and autonomy of the Security Council. The Security Council at critical times makes important decisions that need immediate deliberation not a ferrying of proposals to and fro to the GA. However there needs to be a further deliberation on how to widen activity and interest in the TUN GA first so we can get a GA that is both active and fully functioning and one that is in close contact with the SC not one that is completely separate.

[thunder_chunky]

(Original post by Frank Oxley)


Latvia realises the important and autonomy of the Security Council. The Security Council at critical times makes important decisions that need immediate deliberation not a ferrying of proposals to and fro to the GA. However there needs to be a further deliberation on how to widen activity and interest in the TUN GA first so we can get a GA that is both active and fully functioning and one that is in close contact with the SC not one that is completely separate.

[ooc] The TUN? You mean MUN? [/ooc]

[frankayak]

Yes, sorry!

[jakemittle]

(Original post by Theconomist)
Qatar believes that it would be biased and subjective to label a country ''radical'' and would like to remind the US that if it wasn't the world's only superpower it would be considered a radical state due to it's interference in world events throughout the 20th and 21st century. Qatar does understand the USA's position however and remains a loyal ally.

Mexico supports the USA and would like to add to the debate that permanent members should be subject to a vote every half a century to ensure continuity.

Nigeria agrees with this statement