A well educated person

I would definitely say that a nuclear physicist who was unaware of Homer wasn't well-educated. Definitely. It's not like you are asking him to recite each of his works off by heart, but if they haven't even heard of him, or know who he is or what he was - then they are definitely not well educated. I mean how could you be considered educated if you didn't know who Homer was? The Odyssey and the Iliad permeate modern culture, have influenced tonnes of literature and are referenced all the time (even in things like the Simpsons). If you don't even know what those two stories are about then that is just ****ing tragic.

It's not that you are learning these things to 'show off at dinner parties' - you are actually missing out on things and can't fully participate in society. I mean, if you watch that Simpsons episode about the Odyssey, when you have no clue what it is, then you are missing out. I don't discuss Russian politics or history with people, but I know about it, and so I was blown off my bloody feet when someone told me they thought that Russia has a monarchy. As I said before, you can learn this for free from Wikipedia or books.

Knowing about culture is part of being well-educated. 'Cultured' is someone who goes to see all these operas. I've never been to an opera, but I know an aria from Carmen when I hear it.

I do agree with you, in many sense. I'm a big pub quizzer, so when people don't know things I'd consider essential general knowledge I'm rather shocked!

But at the same time, I can't see how I could honestly call a nuclear physicist poorly educated. Sure, their education is particularly specialised and perhaps narrow, but they're still "well-educated", if not "broadly educated".

See my point?

But the thing is they haven't been well educated if they don't know things that plenty of 12 year olds know, their schooling failed them in one sense. That is my point. You can't say they're not clever or intelligent or whatever - but calling someone "well-educated" is different from just plain "educated". In the same way that I wouldn't call someone who had read every single Barbara Cartland novel (there are 723!) "well-read". To me the "well" implies breadth of knowledge - although I know not everyone shares that opinion

There is other way to hold it ? I mean you are taught that in kinder garden, I can't imagine any other way to use it other than doing it like a 3 years old kid but that will probably lead to food being thrown all around. It's a genuine question, how can you pick and cut in an other way ?

Haha, what an odd post.

No idea what this "kinder garden" place is which taught you eating skills. (For future reference, us Brits call it "school". Americans call it "Kindergarten"). As far as i am aware, nowhere calls it a "kinder garden". Odd.

Anyway, now you know that, i shall answer your question...

An alternative to your way is to hold the fork in your right hand and the knife in your left hand. Then you eat.

No food is thrown. In fact your hands don't touch the food.

Comprendez?

Kindergarten (help·info) (German, literally means "children's garden"), also known as Kindergarden by some individuals.

Lets hope the American 1st Infantry Division come and liberate you then. Operation Wolverhampton Freedom.

Theres no oil in Wolverhampton