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    (Original post by Alexus22)
    Parasitic? You have to be kidding me. People do come here for the economic benefit and who are we to tell them no. Yes there do need to be caps on immigration but there is no reason why we should put a complete stop to immigration. You say that Newcastle is not the place it once was. Complete utter crap. Everytime I go into Newcastle there is an extremely few number of foreigners. I'm not saying this is a bad thing but we can't exactly call it a problem.

    The exact same jobs? Well good, these are the people who benefit the country - the ones who are willing to take what they get and earn a living. But I can tell you now that there are a select few who will put aside any kind of disgrace that comes with working in a "poor" job. A lot of people consider themselves too proud to do any kind of cleaning job and whatnot. An example - out of a team of 10 labourers on a farm, only 1 was British. The owner of the farm said that he had given up on hiring locals because they didn't work as hard. The eastern Europeans were working 60-hour weeks of physical labour and did it with no complaint.

    You say they come over because England is ripe for milking. Ofcourse it is, because many of these immigrants know that they will be in demand, why pay the same wage to a British person who works 25% slower.

    In Britain we have this idea that we are owed a living. I've mentioned this before I think but you have to work to earn. A notion that many people are unfamiliar with.

    You accuse me of believing in a multi-cultural utopia, I say why not try and work towards it? Multi-cultural? Sure, why not forge a diverse society, as time goes by the different races will blend. Sure It will take a long-time, possibly hard to bear because of xenophobic guys like you who go around blaming their lack of living on immigrants.

    You also can't create figures out of your head and 'predict' rates of immigration so don't even come out with this nonsense of the North-East becoming predominantly non-white.

    How is this destroying communities? Where is the evidence? All these people are doing is making a living for themselves.

    There is a reason why "Foreigners doing jobs we don't want to do" is a cliché. Albeit it has a lot more truth to it than "Foreigners take our jobs".
    How can I be making up figures when I offered the sources I got them from in my post?

    Newcastle Council Census figures available at: http://neighbourhood.statistics.gov....lse&nswid=1093

    Complete utter crap that the West end has been ethnically cleansed of white people due to mass immigration? I grew up there, go to the West road and you will see not a single white person (not the city centre).

    The cost of immigration figures is from Oxford University's Prof. David Coleman in the compilation of a report on the economics of immigration to the House of Lords, 2007.

    Your post is filled with so many fallacies that I can barely be bothered. "In Britain we have this idea we are owed a living." - Who exactly has this idea? Anecdotal or just out of your imagination?

    I come from working class stock (but hey I'm a thick Geordie who went to university and acquired the ability to articulate my fellow working class people's discrepancies!), there are members of my family work the same jobs you say British people are too proud to work. I hate middle class people like you who have no idea what it is actually like, you probably live in Northumberland with absolutely zero immigrants and live comfortably because none of the reality of what we are discussing is on your door step. Enough of the ad hominems from me but until you live it, you have no idea.

    The BNP rake in alot of votes in the West end. In the recent local elections they positioned above Lib Dems and Conservatives and came second overall in some wards. Why? Because the people of the area have no voice.
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    (Original post by FluxD)
    How can I be making up figures when I offered the sources I got them from in my post?

    Yes you gave me a figure of a decline in white population at a rate of 1% per year. That is some valid data. You then went on to say that in the next 30 years there would be a 1% decrease. Tell me, how do you know this? Do you have a time-travel machine?

    Complete utter crap that the West end has been ethnically cleansed of white people due to mass immigration? I grew up there, go to the West road and you will see not a single white person (not the city centre).

    I actually laughed. Ethnic cleansing? Christ man, it is typical for people to stick to their communities. East London for example has an extremely large community of immigrants and migrant workers. It's not like these guys kicked the white people out.


    Your post is filled with so many fallacies that I can barely be bothered. "In Britain we have this idea we are owed a living." - Who exactly has this idea? Anecdotal or just out of your imagination?

    It's the impression I'm getting from your post. You talk about immigration as if it is a crime, you feel that these immigrants don't have a right to be in this country, that they don't have the right to work as you do. Tell me? Why do you deserve to get a job, is it because your forefathers lived here? No, It's because you have worked hard, gone to university and earned your living. Why stop an immigrant from doing the same as you.

    I come from working class stock (but hey I'm a thick Geordie who went to university and acquired the ability to articulate my fellow working class people's discrepancies!), there are members of my family work the same jobs you say British people are too proud to work. I hate middle class people like you who have no idea what it is actually like, you probably live in Northumberland with absolutely zero immigrants and live comfortably because none of the reality of what we are discussing is on your door step. Enough of the ad hominems from me but until you live it, you have no idea?

    The BNP rake in alot of votes in the West end. In the recent local elections they positioned above Lib Dems and Conservatives and came second overall in some wards. Why? Because the people of the area have no voice.

    I can compare this - very, very loosely - to the state of Germany in 1933 when Hitler came to power. The people lost faith in the current government (Labour), and they don't trust the mainstream Tories or Lib Dem's. Instead they turn to the more extreme parties who promise a straightforward end to the recession, in this case it includes ending immigration.

    On the note of me being middle class, I'll hit you with a little bit of family history. My grandparents were all working class, they worked hard in life and with their money bought a house with all their savings. They grew their own vegetables and didn't blame their poor quality of life on anybody. Did I mention that last year that the household income was below £18,000 for all four of my family. So don't get the wrong idea.
    P.S Good for you, I'm pleased your family works hard. Unlike some people that I have had the misfortune of knowing.
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    Lol I do love it when people think like this. I am black and I am British. As British as every other person in Great Britain. I do agree about conforming. Everyone who moves to a country should respect and conform to that countries way of living, as well as their cultural ways. But I would ask the OP, If someone is born here, pays taxes, never commits a crime, etc BUT is not white, does that make them a foreigner? How about people who only have one British parent(Churchill), are they fully British?
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    (Original post by pol pot noodles)
    And how many people have done this to you exactly? Because to be totally honest I've had more whiney athiests attempt to force their views down my throat than Muslims have. So let's kick out all the athiests shall we? After all, the UK is a Christian nation right? We can't have any of that 'science' malarky! :rolleyes:
    Urgh, don't get me started on atheists, I wish they'd all just die. Don't you agree? Arrogant scum. And the amount that buy into that evolution crap? As if any of my relatives were apes:rolleyes:.

    Edit: I'm with you 100%!

    Edited again: I love how I make a troll post, and kick flip pos reps me.
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    The next leader Andrew Brons will improve the image of the BNP enormously. He is the genteel politics lecturer to Griffin's dictator. Hail the new dawn.
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    (Original post by Alexus22)
    People do come here for the economic benefit and who are we to tell them no.
    Well, this is our country and it is named after us for a start. Do you leave your own door open so strangers can sit down and watch telly with you, and raid your fridge? Cheeky swine.
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    My mother was recruited from my country because they was/still is a massive shortage of nurses, doctors and every other health and social practitioner.
    Immigration was increased because they is a lot of British people who DID/DO NOT want to work or want to work a few hours, then take an 'off sick'.

    We have 'sick' leave laws that means you have to virtually employ 1 and half people per job.
    Its virtually impossible/expensive to dismiss an employee.
    They are many stupid laws of that nurture, which means its much cheaper to employ an immigrant on a temporal basis who is probably overqualified for the job.
    Also the amount of benefits, sometimes its much better to be on benefits that to work.

    BNP has taken over and tarnished the ENGLISH flag, St Georges day, and are quickly taking over the BRITISH flag.
    Bar big England games, anyone seen randomly raising these flags is scene as a racist/BNP supporting ****.
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    (Original post by Kickflip)
    Well, this is our country and it is named after us for a start. Do you leave your own door open so strangers can sit down and watch telly with you, and raid your fridge? Cheeky swine.
    Strangers? What makes people living in Wales different from people living from people in Scotland, they're strangers.

    Calling immigrants strangers is just being xenophobic and paranoid, it's a natural human reaction. but you have to get over it.

    Please tell me, how is it your country? Do you have more ownership than say, a black man whose Jamaican grandfather came across in the 50's?

    Don't misinterpret me, I'm not saying we should just open our doors with no limits, immigration has to be controlled for the benefit of everyone else.

    I can tell you're trying to use your house as a metaphor for the country but it's completely different, how are immigrants affecting you, tell me? Apart from taking your jobs?
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    can't say i support the BNP, but remember new labour are responsible for the deaths of one million iraqis, they are all as bad as eachother in my opinion.
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    Tony Blair had most of the country believe they were doing the right thing. War can never be a right thing to do, it's pure idiocy to believe a war can take place without the deaths of innocents.
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    (Original post by Maker)
    I expect the houses of BNP members and supporters will contain the following:

    Large ugly pitbull type dog(s)
    Lots of empty beer bottles on the floor
    Lots of festering take away trays everywhere
    Drug paraphernalia
    Porno mags/vids
    That's about 80% of the bachelor population.
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    If the BNP were truly like how they portray themselves in the media then I might consider voting for them... but unfortunately I think they are still filled with narrow minded nazis.
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    You people are all legalistic, democratic, terrorist sympathizing sheep with no nationalism/respect for england, Who soak up what the media scum say like pigs feeding on slop,at least look like you care about the state of the country that you live and work in.
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    (Original post by ArcticRed)
    You people are all legalistic, democratic, terrorist sympathizing sheep with no nationalism/respect for england, Who soak up what the media scum say like pigs feeding on slop,at least look like you care about the state of the country that you live and work in.
    Nice speedy response there.
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    (Original post by moonkatt)
    Nice speedy response there.
    It's 3 pages long man! Just over a year is pretty bloody good for a BNP supporter!
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    (Original post by Norton1)
    It's 3 pages long man! Just over a year is pretty bloody good for a BNP supporter!
    I see what you did there and I raise my glass to you good sir.
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    Lol at the people who think the bnp arent racist i guess the undercover reporter who attended a bnp confrence and recorded all their racist jokes was imaginary

    This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my HTC Wildfire S A510e
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    (Original post by Norton1)
    It's 3 pages long man! Just over a year is pretty bloody good for a BNP supporter!
    Unlike some people (you) have better things to do than sit behind my pc pressing the f5 button eagerly waiting for the likes of you to reply to my posts, i'll reply in my own sweet time, and no i'm not racist or intoxicated.
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    (Original post by ArcticRed)
    Unlike some people (you) have better things to do than sit behind my pc pressing the f5 button eagerly waiting for the likes of you to reply to my posts, i'll reply in my own sweet time, and no i'm not racist or intoxicated.
    I'm on a laptop...the F5 button brightens the screen. I don't see how that's helpful. Did I say you were racist or intoxicated?

    I said you were a slow reader, because you're a BNP supporter implying you're THICK.

    You are of course also racist.

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