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Original post by jack747
I suppose pills can help, but i don't know if that's the path I'd recommend anyone like me.

Also stay away from anything with a high caffeine dosage. Red bulls had a major effect on my anxiety.
And stay far far away from things like weed and MDMA.


Yeah I think it is very dependent on the individual case. Only the patient themselves can really decide if medication is right for them.

I definitely agree about other drugs like caffeine, alcohol and stronger things, these are all know to have negative affects on mental health problems.
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Original post by Amwazicles
Yeah I think it is very dependent on the individual case. Only the patient themselves can really decide if medication is right for them.

I definitely agree about other drugs like caffeine, alcohol and stronger things, these are all know to have negative affects on mental health problems.


Did you or do you still suffer from anxiety?
Original post by Amwazicles
I think the particular person you see can also affect how you get on. If you are seeing someone you don't really like, you aren't going to want to 'open up' to them. I would say just keep trying until you find 'the one'.

CBT is known for taking a long time I think (I have never had it), but you could also try other types of therapy if you don;t thin kit worked for you. Psychodynamic 'talking' therapy is the type where you talk a lot and the therapist will sort of analyse and suggest what the root of the problem may be and how to deal with it (this is what I have at the moment). You could also try alternative therapies if you are into that sort of thing, such s acupuncture, or EMDR/EFT and other similar things.

:smile:


Obviously anxiety is the root of my problems (e.g. OCD) at the moment. But I wonder what the root of the anxiety is? I didn't have any problems as a young child so I wonder if it is miscommunication between parts of my brain, or an absence of neurotransmitters. Us anxious lot would probably get selected for in nature to a extent, because we were the ones who worried enough not to venture into that cave with the sabertooth. :tongue:
Original post by Ratiocinator
Obviously anxiety is the root of my problems (e.g. OCD) at the moment. But I wonder what the root of the anxiety is? I didn't have any problems as a young child so I wonder if it is miscommunication between parts of my brain, or an absence of neurotransmitters. Us anxious lot would probably get selected for in nature to a extent, because we were the ones who worried enough not to venture into that cave with the sabertooth. :tongue:


Yeah I sort of mean finding the root of the anxiety. Like you, I had no specific traumas or anything as a child, although mental health stuff does run in my family slightly (dad with depression, aunt with depression, uncle schizophrenic...).

I don't really know enough about the brain to know any biological causes, but I guess the natural selection thing could work to an extent. Although maybe not so much when we are too anxious to go out and pick fruit and end up starving... :/
Original post by jack747
Did you or do you still suffer from anxiety?


I did and still do, as described in my OP. Short version: emetophobic (irrational fear of vomiting), leading to food anxiety, weight loss etc, and also more generalised anxiety about a wide range of other things, including travel, death, separation, 'stuckness' etc, the usuals.

I was just going to ask what about you and then remembered that's what your original post was about. :colondollar:
Original post by Amwazicles
Yeah I sort of mean finding the root of the anxiety. Like you, I had no specific traumas or anything as a child, although mental health stuff does run in my family slightly (dad with depression, aunt with depression, uncle schizophrenic...).

I don't really know enough about the brain to know any biological causes, but I guess the natural selection thing could work to an extent. Although maybe not so much when we are too anxious to go out and pick fruit and end up starving... :/


Yes quite, I sort of said it tongue-in-cheek because I doubt extreme anxiety would be of any benefit. What would be some roots of anxiety, do you mean certain events or behaviour?
Original post by Ratiocinator
Yes quite, I sort of said it tongue-in-cheek because I doubt extreme anxiety would be of any benefit. What would be some roots of anxiety, do you mean certain events or behaviour?


Well after seeing my therapist for several months, here are some things I/we have found: as a second child, I have quite low self esteem as a result of comparing to my older brother and only ever experiencing 50% of my parents attention. This isn't anything they've done wrong, but you can't help the fact that a first child experiences 100% of the attention for the first years of their life. This resulted in my feeling insecure about myself and uncertain about who I was, and my identity and personality. All this uncertainty and self-doubt generated anxiety, especially relating to control, which 'attached' to the phobia of vomiting (as something we have little/no control over).

That's about how far we've got so far. In recent weeks I've been surprised to find that my own self-confidence and self-esteem is so closely related to my anxiety, I had always thought it was simply *another* separate problem. It actually feels good to know they are related, as it means I can work on my confidence, which is a lot less scary than having to work on the anxiety/phobia itself.
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Original post by Amwazicles
I did and still do, as described in my OP. Short version: emetophobic (irrational fear of vomiting), leading to food anxiety, weight loss etc, and also more generalised anxiety about a wide range of other things, including travel, death, separation, 'stuckness' etc, the usuals.

I was just going to ask what about you and then remembered that's what your original post was about. :colondollar:


Aha it was a bit stupid of me to forget the op anyway aha.
That sounds pretty bad, do you usually throw up after eating? Bulimic?

If you don't wanna talk about it here, more than welcome to pm me if you do want to ever talk about it.
Original post by jack747
Aha it was a bit stupid of me to forget the op anyway aha.
That sounds pretty bad, do you usually throw up after eating? Bulimic?

If you don't wanna talk about it here, more than welcome to pm me if you do want to ever talk about it.


That's OK it feels good to be able to be effectively anonymous on here as no one I know. :smile:

It is pretty horrible, but I literally *never* actually throw up. That seems almost the whole point. The last time I was sick was probably when I was like 7 years old or something, maybe even earlier than that. This is why I am so scared of it, because if I could actually remember what it was like, I would probably know that it's not actually the end of the world.

The food anxiety thing is more like I worry about eating too much or too many sweet things etc, because I'm worried they will make me sick. I get paranoid about food being cooked properly and within use by date and so on, so end up eating less than I should. I am on calorie supplements at the moment to try and maintain my weight so that's good.

:smile:
I'm signing off now cos I'm spending way too much time online now I'm done with school :P

I'll be back later and respond to any posts then.

:smile:
Original post by Amwazicles
Well after seeing my therapist for several months, here are some things I/we have found: as a second child, I have quite low self esteem as a result of comparing to my older brother and only ever experiencing 50% of my parents attention. This isn't anything they've done wrong, but you can't help the fact that a first child experiences 100% of the attention for the first years of their life. This resulted in my feeling insecure about myself and uncertain about who I was, and my identity and personality. All this uncertainty and self-doubt generated anxiety, especially relating to control, which 'attached' to the phobia of vomiting (as something we have little/no control over).

That's about how far we've got so far. In recent weeks I've been surprised to find that my own self-confidence and self-esteem is so closely related to my anxiety, I had always thought it was simply *another* separate problem. It actually feels good to know they are related, as it means I can work on my confidence, which is a lot less scary than having to work on the anxiety/phobia itself.


That is very interesting, because I was the first child, so I guess the same might have happened to me, when attention became diverted away from me when my brother and sister were born. Going back to whether it is hereditary, it might be because my brother has bad OCD and has had panic attacks. My other brother and sister don't have any problems, but my mother is naturally nervous, so I don't know, there is probably a complex mix of factors in my case.
Original post by Ratiocinator
That is very interesting, because I was the first child, so I guess the same might have happened to me, when attention became diverted away from me when my brother and sister were born. Going back to whether it is hereditary, it might be because my brother has bad OCD and has had panic attacks. My other brother and sister don't have any problems, but my mother is naturally nervous, so I don't know, there is probably a complex mix of factors in my case.


I expect every case is a big mixture of things, I don't think anyone could truthfully say "I have anxiety because..." without it taking them a lifetime to explain it.
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Original post by Amwazicles
That's OK it feels good to be able to be effectively anonymous on here as no one I know. :smile:

It is pretty horrible, but I literally *never* actually throw up. That seems almost the whole point. The last time I was sick was probably when I was like 7 years old or something, maybe even earlier than that. This is why I am so scared of it, because if I could actually remember what it was like, I would probably know that it's not actually the end of the world.

The food anxiety thing is more like I worry about eating too much or too many sweet things etc, because I'm worried they will make me sick. I get paranoid about food being cooked properly and within use by date and so on, so end up eating less than I should. I am on calorie supplements at the moment to try and maintain my weight so that's good.

:smile:


Hmmm yeah, i suppose its a tricky situation you have to slowly tell yourself that not everything is going to make you sick. Much easier said than done obviously, but its the only way i found to get round that type of illness.

At least your maintaining your weight, do you feel healthy or do you feel you need to eat proper food but just can't get yourself to do it?
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I suffer from general anxiety and opening my email inbox is the most terrifying thing I do every morning. I wish I could get rid of it. :frown:
Original post by jack747
Hmmm yeah, i suppose its a tricky situation you have to slowly tell yourself that not everything is going to make you sick. Much easier said than done obviously, but its the only way i found to get round that type of illness.

At least your maintaining your weight, do you feel healthy or do you feel you need to eat proper food but just can't get yourself to do it?


Yeah most times I just feel pretty hopeless about the actual phobia ever going away, but just learning to live with it instead. :frown:

I don't feel *healthy* as such, because I get tired easily and whatnot, due to my weight, I think I am slightly underweight, although not as badly as I have been in the past. I often feel like I am eating well, because I eat until I feel like I'm full, but when I compare to what other people eat, it actually isn't as much as I should be. I think I have sort of learnt to tell myself I'm full before I actually am, in order to prevent the anxiety I get when I am very full.
I think the kinds of food I eat are generally OK, it's not like I just live on chocolate or anything, I do eat a fair variety of fruit, veg, carbs, protein etc, just not really enough of any of them.

I often feel like I have to decide between (for example), having a bigger portion at dinner, and then being really anxious/panicky in the evening and not sleeping, or eating slightly less and then at least sleeping well. But it's sort of lose-lose, because if I don't sleep well, then I feel tired, but if I don't eat enough, i also feel tired.

:frown:
(sorry for the ramble)
Original post by Anatheme
I suffer from general anxiety and opening my email inbox is the most terrifying thing I do every morning. I wish I could get rid of it. :frown:


Why is that a worrying experience for you?
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Oh I knew I was gonna get negged for that. Right, let me introduce myself again. I have suffered from general anxiety my whole life, and have only been diagnosed a year ago. Because I feel the same way I do when I'm looking forward to something, I never realised what it was, until I had a sort of breakdown at university. There I went to counselling sessions as well as relaxation sessions, and it helped a bit. Unfortunately there are still a gazillion stupid situations like opening my emails in the morning that mess me up, make me feel more stressed and anxious. So yeah, it is the most terrifying thing I do in the morning, whether your think it's a joke or not.
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Original post by Amwazicles
Why is that a worrying experience for you?


I assume it's because I generally get news that could affect my life in manners I don't always wish to happen. I hate picking up the phone for the same reason. Even going on TSR makes me go all jumpy because I know some stuff will get me upset or angry.
Original post by Anatheme
I assume it's because I generally get news that could affect my life in manners I don't always wish to happen. I hate picking up the phone for the same reason. Even going on TSR makes me go all jumpy because I know some stuff will get me upset or angry.


I'm sorry to hear that. :frown: I hope visiting this thread will always cheer you up :smile:

What other things make you anxious?


Edit: Four pages!!!... Gonna have to give up doing this soon...
Original post by Amwazicles
I expect every case is a big mixture of things, I don't think anyone could truthfully say "I have anxiety because..." without it taking them a lifetime to explain it.


I'm seeing the doctor next week. I hope it gets better from there.

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