Libertarian Socialist Society Thread!
Discuss the merits and deficiencies of political theories and philosophical questions.
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Re: Libertarian Socialist Society Thread!I am not sure mastering is the right word. Humans don't, for a moment, consider other animals - for instance. It always amazes me that much of philosophical thought experiments begin like this: "imagine you inhabit an island to yourself" ... what about the ecosystem there? Presumably a bird lives in the nest on the tree? What about its property rights? And since it affects its environment (which is itself subject to its own changes - axis shifts, air currents changing within the hemispheres etc ... ), it too must contribute to global warming ... Thus, humans aren't really the problem .. but all living things ...(Original post by snozzle)
What is it mastering then but nature? I suppose it is seeking to master the behavior of unenlightened others...it is othering the mass of people as well as nature. Saving nature from ourselves and ignorant men from themselves?
What puzzles me is the gusto by which the state has got involved and is committed to the AGW hypothesis. I tend to view the democratic state as a fairly parasitic and useless apparatus with its architects and politicians capable of short termism only. AGW is on such a long time scale as to offer no practical incentive for the politician to care.
I am not sure if I see the state as parasitic, anymore. I see the state as a means of getting things done. We both know the alternative makes a lot more sense, and is most certainly more moral ... -
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Re: Libertarian Socialist Society Thread!I am not sure I am separating human behaviour from anything ... but I do believe we once agreed, wisely I might add, to define our terms before a debate - since we both define capitalism very differently.(Original post by Oswy)
You can't separate human behaviour from the economic and social arrangements within which they must take place. Indeed, given that we very much live within capitalism's dictates our 'voluntary' transactions are all too obviously determined by its machinery.
On that note, I believe I have over-stayed my welcome sauntering your thread ... -
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Re: Libertarian Socialist Society Thread!Relax, I'm just sayin'(Original post by Lord Hysteria)
I am not sure I am separating human behaviour from anything ... but I do believe we once agreed, wisely I might add, to define our terms before a debate - since we both define capitalism very differently.
On that note, I believe I have over-stayed my welcome sauntering your thread ...
