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Reply 1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4563372.stm

Two Palestinian militants have been wounded in an Israeli air strike on their base in Lebanon, hours after rockets hit two Israeli border towns.

Israel would therefore condemn the 7 rockets that hit Israeli towns that were fired from Lebanese territory. In response, Israel attacked the base where these rockets were fired. Therefore, shouldn't you be condemning the Palestinians firing the rockets from Lebanon? Of course not. Venezuela would prefer to condemn the retaliation by Israel instead.

Israel would like to point out the difference between the missiles fired by Israeli planes and the ones fired by the Palestinians in Lebanon. The Palestinians fired it aiming at innocent people in Israeli towns. The Israeli fired it at Palestinian TERRORISTS!

Israel therefore assumes Venezuela supports the actions of terrorists against Israel, and therefore, against all other countries that are victims of terrorism, including the US, Spain and the UK.
Reply 2
Israel would therefore condemn the 7 rockets that hit Israeli towns that were fired from Lebanese territory. In response, Israel attacked the base where these rockets were fired. Therefore, shouldn't you be condemning the Palestinians firing the rockets from Lebanon? Of course not
It is not acceptable to attack another sovereign country in this manner. If Lebanon had ever retaliated for rockets fired by Israel that landed on Lebanese towns, Israel , I presume would have been up in arms.
Reply 3
Israel would therefore condemn the 7 rockets that hit Israeli towns that were fired from Lebanese territory. In response, Israel attacked the base where these rockets were fired.


Is this the state of Israel's idea of peace? The Islamic Republic of Iran condemns the rockets that hit Israeli towns, and it also condems Israel's response - assuming that Israel is at all interested in peace in the Middle East.
Reply 4
the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia condemns both rocket attacks. however in light of the comments of Israels representative, does this mean that if the palestinian militants attacked Israeli military, instead of civilians, then they would not be doing anything wrong? We are deeply concerned by Israel's justification of its retaliation and that they fired onto the soil of a soveriegn country. We hope that if ever you had suspicions of militants firing from Saudi soil into Israel, that you would not scorch our soil with your weapons but instead allow the local authorities to deal with it. We feel that such retaliation with force, merely damages any hopes of peace, if that is what you desire.
Micronesia is confused as to why many delegates seem to be noting that Israel fired on to the "sovereign" territory of another State, but do not appear to note that rockets were fired from Lebanon on to the SOVEREIGN territory of Israel. As usual, UN states leap to defend the aggresor and condemn the legitimate retaliation of the Jewish State being attacked. Micronesia expresses its full and unconditional support for the Israeli responses and condemns the attack on Israel by terrorists operating out of Lebanon. Micronesia also asks why Lebanon does not take action to prevent terrorists operating out of its territory attacking its neighbours.

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Northumbrian
It is not acceptable to attack another sovereign country in this manner.

Micronesia assumes you are referring to the terrorists in Lebanon attacking SOVEREIGN ISRAEL in this manner, correct?

Northumbrian
If Lebanon had ever retaliated for rockets fired by Israel that landed on Lebanese towns, Israel , I presume would have been up in arms.

What the heck? Micronesia inquires as to what the hell the point is of raising a situation that isn't in existence and then trying to guess at the responses of the parties involved. Micronesia suggests this is a disgusting attempt to distract from the incident at hand in which Israel was the innocent victim, RESPONDING to an attack on its sovereign territory. Micronesia notes sadly that Venezuela's support of terrorism continues, unabated.
teehar
We hope that if ever you had suspicions of militants firing from Saudi soil into Israel, that you would not scorch our soil with your weapons but instead allow the local authorities to deal with it.

Micronesia notes that this is not an isolated incident, but attacks have been launched on Israel from Lebanese territory for YEARS without any response from Lebanese authorities and no attempts to prevent these attacks occurring. Micronesia feels that in the complete absence of any attempts by the "local authorities" to deal with the threat, Israel is perfectly within its rights to defend itself against attacks, wherever they are launched from. To suggest otherwise is digusting, violent and racist.

teehar
We feel that such retaliation with force, merely damages any hopes of peace, if that is what you desire.

Hold up. You're saying that the RESPONSE to attacks launched on Israel is the action that damages hopes of peace? The logic behind this backwards, illogical and nonsensical reasoning is lost on Micronesia. Surely it makes sense to condemn the INSTIGATORS of the violence for damaging hopes of peace, rather than the victims upon their response.


Micronesia also sadly notes that some states are maintaining their attempt to focus the entire efforts of the UN upon condemning and attacking ONE state and are again all but ignoring the rest of the world. Look at how many threads have been started regarding Israel in recent days, it's getting ridiculous.
Reply 7
What the heck? Micronesia inquires as to what the hell the point is of raising a situation that isn't in existence and then trying to guess at the responses of the parties involved. Micronesia suggests this is a disgusting attempt to distract from the incident at hand in which Israel was the innocent victim, RESPONDING to an attack on its sovereign territory.
You mean Israel hasn't shelled Lebanese towns? He he he

Micronesia notes sadly that Venezuela's support of terrorism continues, unabated.
Venezuela noted the inability of Micronesia to support this with evidence due to the fact their delegate is lying.
Northumbrian
You mean Israel hasn't shelled Lebanese towns? He he he

I did not claim that. However, Israel has not recently taken action against Lebanon in any way except retaliation against Hezbollah etc. when they attack Israel. So what is the point of raising that situation except as a distraction from the issue in question.

Northumbrian
Venezuela noted the inability of Micronesia to support this with evidence due to the fact their delegate is lying.

Micronesia notes the Venezuelan representatives support of the right of what he terms palestinian 'resistance' groups to carry out attacks on Israelis. Seeing as by any definition (including Venezuela's own) these attacks constitute terrorism - attacks deliberately on civilians for a political purpose - Micronesia cannot see how Venezuela can make a plausible denial of support for terror.

Micronesia also notes that many of its points have gone without response from the Venezuelan representative including the inquiry as to why a distinction was made between attacks on "sovereign" Lebanon and "sovereign" Israel.

Micronesia also notes that either:
the attacks from Lebanon are sanctioned by Lebanon and thus Israel is perfectly within its right to respond against Lebanon
OR
the attacks from Lebanon are without Lebanese consent, in which case in the absence of any Lebanese response, Israel is perfectly within its rights to defend itself and retaliate without it being deemed an attack on Lebanon.
Reply 9
JonathanH
Micronesia feels that in the complete absence of any attempts by the "local authorities" to deal with the threat, Israel is perfectly within its rights to defend itself against attacks, wherever they are launched from. To suggest otherwise is digusting, violent and racist.


firstly, how in any way are my comments racist?? clearly you struggle to grasp the meaning of basic english. maybe you should consider one of those english learning courses before attempting to interpret these threads.

secondly, by your logic it would be correct for saudi arabia to bomb london, if they failed to apprehend an elusive terrorist who had not been apprehended by the local authorities and saudi arabia felt that they knew the location. Maybe it would have been wiser for Israel to inform lebanese authorities of suspected locations of freedom fighters before razing lebanese terrotories to the ground.

Maybe you should THINK BEFORE YOU POST next time.
Reply 10
teehar
maybe you should consider one of those english learning courses before attempting to interpret these threads.

:rofl:
teehar, do you not understand that the air strikes were on TERRORISTS? Now, don't tell me that any other country wouldn't do the same to protect itself against frequent rockets being launched into its cities.
teehar
firstly, how in any way are my comments racist?? clearly you struggle to grasp the meaning of basic english. maybe you should consider one of those english learning courses before attempting to interpret these threads.

Would you deny the right of any other country to defend itself against terrorists launching strikes against it from other countries? Or is it just Israel?
And Micronesia would like to inform the delegate that he is well qualified in speaking 'English' under any system.

teehar
secondly, by your logic it would be correct for saudi arabia to bomb london, if they failed to apprehend an elusive terrorist who had not been apprehended by the local authorities and saudi arabia felt that they knew the location.

False. Your bizarre comaprison is typical of people of your views who have to come up with half-baked comparisons to justify their bizarre ideas. If terrorists were launching potentially deadly rockets from London on to Saudi Arabian soil (presuming that these people could launch ICBMs from London without British intervention) and the British were doing nothing to prevent this and were indeed complicit, then Saudi Arabia would, in Micronesia's view, be allowed to take action. As it stands however, failure to "apprehend an elusive terrorist" is NOTHING like condoning and allowing your sovereign territory to be used for direct rocket attacks against another State.

teehar
Maybe it would have been wiser for Israel to inform lebanese authorities of suspected locations of freedom fighters before razing lebanese terrotories to the ground.

Dear lord, this very sentence in itself is so inherently self-contradictory and delusional that Micronesia wonders about the sanity of the delegate.
If you consider terrorists launching rockets at Israel from Lebanon as 'freedom fighters', what exactly do you think Lebanon, a country still technically at war with Israel, considers them? Furthermore, Lebanon currently does and for years has, allowed most of the South of the country to be run by Hezbollah, a terrorist organisation (which was why Israel occupied a buffer-zone in southern Lebanon for 18 years). Lebanon would do NOTHING to prevent these terrorists from attacking Israel, why would Israel waste time informing them about it, so that Lebanon could...?
Furthermore, what 'razing lebanese territories to the ground', Israel fired less rockets back at the terrorists than the terrorists fired at Israel! If Israel 'razed' Lebanese territory, what did the terrorists do to Israel?!
Micronesia finds the lebanese position (supported by you) completely untenable. Either it is Lebanese territory that Israel retaliated against, in which case Lebanon has done nothing to prevent the attacks and has implicitly allowed them and thus must face the consequences, OR, Lebanon is not responsible for the actions carries out from those areas of it under terrorist control and thus has no right to complain about Israeli retaliation.

teehar
secondlyMaybe you should THINK BEFORE YOU POST next time.

You need to think and acquire the barest hint of knowledge about the situation. Micronesia both thinks and knows, before posting. Micronesia expresses its deepest concerns about the future of a country which appoints UN delegates so sorely lacking in knowledge about important issues.
Socrates
:rofl:
Israel is in no way amused at this poor, immature comment by Saudi Arabia. It is a sad case when one has to resort to personal insults.
Reply 14
gemgems89
Israel is in no way amused at this poor, immature comment by Saudi Arabia. It is a sad case when one has to resort to personal insults.

The Islamic Republic of Iran is in no way amused when Micronesia makes unfounded comments or implications against other members of the UN.
If Micronesia cared what Iran thought about anything, Micronesia might ask which comments and implications Iran had a problem with. But, since Micronesia has no respect for the current Iranian regime, Micronesia will not bother inquiring.
Reply 16
I did not claim that.
However, Israel has not recently taken action against Lebanon
in any way except retaliation against Hezbollah etc. when they attack Israel.
Neither has Lebanon

http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=8503

attacks deliberately on civilians for a political purpose
when did i condone them?

Micronesia also notes that many of its points have gone without response from the Venezuelan representative including the inquiry as to why a distinction was made between attacks on "sovereign" Lebanon and "sovereign" Israel.
Because accept sovereign states to respect each other. Israel constantly acts in the same way terrorist groups do but with even less justification.
Northumbrian
Neither has Lebanon

Neither has Lebanon done what?


Oh no, one shell accidentally fell on to Lebanese territory while Israel was trying to neutralise explosives planted by terrorists operating out of Lebanese controlled areas. And that demonstrates?

Northumbrian
when did i condone them?

Micronesia would encourage delegates to read prior postings of the delegate in question for the answer to that strange enquiry.

Northumbrian
Because accept sovereign states to respect each other. Israel constantly acts in the same way terrorist groups do but with even less justification.

What?! So, what you are saying is that Lebanon bears NO responsibility for attacks from terrorists it ALLOWS to operate on its territory against sovereign Israel, but when Israel responds against these terrorists, Lebanese sovereignty is violated? That is the most preposterous, illogical, unfair and backwards set of standards.
Israel DOES NOT act in the same way as terrorists groups, . Israel does not deliberately target civilians, it defends itself from murderous terrorists that have been hell-bent on Israel's destruction for years. Less justification?! Terrrorists attack Israel to destroy and kill, Israel responds to defend its people and integrity and they have less justification?!
Reply 18
JonathanH



What?! So, what you are saying is that Lebanon bears NO responsibility for attacks from terrorists it ALLOWS to operate on its territory against sovereign Israel, but when Israel responds against these terrorists, Lebanese sovereignty is violated? That is the most preposterous, illogical, unfair and backwards set of standards.
Israel DOES NOT act in the same way as terrorists groups, you piece of ****. Israel does not deliberately target civilians, it defends itself from murderous terrorists that have been hell-bent on Israel's destruction for years. Less justification?! Terrrorists attack Israel to destroy and kill, Israel responds to defend its people and integrity and they have less justification?!
You are sick, mentally-diseased, amoral, racist and deeply stupid.


Now now now, Sit down, chill out and drink Kool-Aid, I bought a virtual batch for everyone in MUN since it looks like they need it. :p:
Reply 19
The Islamic Republic of Iran reminds Micronesia to maintain the decorum of the United Nations General Assembly.

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