Why is English Literature a respected subject at university?

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  1. Abir Ishtiaq's Avatar
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    Why is English Literature a respected subject at university?
    Now, guys, don't get me wrong, I am definately NOT saying it shouldn't be a respected subject. I was just interested in WHY it's a respected subject at university, because I really can't think of many jobs where, i dunno, shakespeare helped them. There must be a reason as to why it's respected, can anyone explain why?
  2. Abir Ishtiaq's Avatar
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    Re: Why is English Literature a respected subject at university?
    How nice of you to :bump: into my thread. Pun intended.

    EDIT: awhh c'mon guys....this was such a well thought out pun. How could you give me neg rep for this?!
    Last edited by Abir Ishtiaq; 06-07-2011 at 22:49.
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    Re: Why is English Literature a respected subject at university?
    No idea
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    Re: Why is English Literature a respected subject at university?
    Because it was one of the first subjects to be studied and is a relic from a time when we actually valued education for education's sake rather than education as a way of earning a salary.
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    Re: Why is English Literature a respected subject at university?
    maybe universities isn't just about jobs but is about learning :O
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    Awful lot of essay writing plus the analysis that goes into it I guess. For a job in research, or admin something or other, or a museum, or in academia, it has the sorts of skills you need. And it's 'traditional' as well I think x)
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    Re: Why is English Literature a respected subject at university?
    It's not. Well, it isn't in my eyes anyway. I think people do it for the personal educational benefit rather than employment prospects.

    Edit: Neg repped for an opinion, go me. XD
    Last edited by Electronica; 06-07-2011 at 22:12.
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    For the passing down of knowledge and the enrichment of humanity. Shakespeare and Flaubert write about people, and we can learn a lot about ourselves from them.

    (And for the more practically-minded, essay writing and argument-winning skills)
    Last edited by Octohedral; 06-07-2011 at 22:11.
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    Because University used to be about education and learning, not just getting a job. Now there are no more polytechnics and a wave of job-related degrees like "Hospitality management" the original purpose of uni has been diluted... Now that just going to university no longer marks you out as one of the elite, people have found something else to feel superior about.
    Last edited by Tefhel; 06-07-2011 at 22:11.
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    Re: Why is English Literature a respected subject at university?
    (Original post by Abir Ishtiaq)
    Now, guys, don't get me wrong, I am definately NOT saying it shouldn't be a respected subject. I was just interested in WHY it's a respected subject at university, because I really can't think of many jobs where, i dunno, shakespeare helped them. There must be a reason as to why it's respected, can anyone explain why?
    Because spelling counts for something in exams.
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    Education isn't just the means to getting a job.
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    Because it was one of the first subjects to be studied and is a relic from a time when we actually valued education for education's sake rather than education as a way of earning a salary.
    Actually, it's quite a new academic subject and was the Mickey Mouse degree of a century ago.
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    Re: Why is English Literature a respected subject at university?
    Because people want to learn it, and it is a complex subject. Some people value knowledge outside of making them money.
    Last edited by Abbadon27; 06-07-2011 at 22:17.
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    Re: Why is English Literature a respected subject at university?
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    Actually, it's quite a new academic subject and was the Mickey Mouse degree of a century ago.
    Hardly. It wasn't known as English Literature but the original trivium contained lessons in grammar and rhetoric and involved the reading and emulation of classic literature, English Literature is a natural progression from that.
    Last edited by JCC-MGS; 06-07-2011 at 22:20.
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    The only respectable subjects to study at a university are the maths + sciences, engineering, medicine and law. I may have forgotten one or two but that about covers it.
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    Re: Why is English Literature a respected subject at university?
    (Original post by Abir Ishtiaq)
    EDIT: awhh c'mon guys....this was such a well thought out pun. How could you give me neg rep for this?!
    You bumped your thread after just a couple of minutes, with a lame pun. What sort of reaction were you expecting?:erm:
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    Re: Why is English Literature a respected subject at university?
    (Original post by JCC-MGS)
    Hardly. It wasn't known as English Literature but the original trivium contained lessons in grammar and rhetoric and involved the reading and emulation of classic literature, English Literature is a natural progression from that.
    Just because something looks like a natural progression with the benefit of a century's hindsight doesn't mean it wasn't controversial at the time. Surely the maligned media studies is just a natural progression from the study of eng lit?
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    (Original post by Joinedup)
    Just because something looks like a natural progression with the benefit of a century's hindsight doesn't mean it wasn't controversial at the time. Surely the maligned media studies is just a natural progression from the study of eng lit?
    Not really, media studies is totally different to English Lit, especially at university level. The controversy that most people attribute to the creation of the English Literature degree is more often than not part of a wider controversy of overall rehaul of the university curriculum in the 19th century. English Literature was not the only well-respected subject to originally face opposition even though it wasn't essentially any different to its equivalent in the original seven liberal arts, and the reason why English Literature is respected is because people acknowledge the fact that it is essentially a repackaging of the grammar and rhetoric teachings that have been in universities since the beginning.
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    Re: Why is English Literature a respected subject at university?
    (Original post by hobnob)
    You bumped your thread after just a couple of minutes, with a lame pun. What sort of reaction were you expecting?:erm:
    Pffhhtt...Still a pun though :fuhrer:
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    Re: Why is English Literature a respected subject at university?
    (Original post by JCC-MGS)
    Hardly. It wasn't known as English Literature but the original trivium contained lessons in grammar and rhetoric and involved the reading and emulation of classic literature, English Literature is a natural progression from that.
    That's nonsense. What modern day university teaches grammar or rhetoric in English literature courses? Most modern classics courses don't teach rhetoric. To say nothing of the huge differences between how classics were taught in the Middle Ages and how English literature is taught nowadays. People would love to think that English literature is a very old traditional subject, but it really isn't. That doesn't mean it's not hard work - because it's a lot of hard work and that's one of the main reasons why it's so respected - it's just not old and traditional in any way.
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