Thought we needed an official society thread (as the other one was only started to suggest it!) with a front post with names and stuff (hehe) so post your physio comments here but first some quick basic rules....
1. There aren't enough of us already studying to limit this society to current students (like the meds do) only so I think those currently in the middle of applying should also be allowed to join.
2. This thread is for anything physio related, but please try not to fill the whole thread with "are my a-level grades good enough, can you check my personal statement" etc kind of questions as there are tonnes of threads on this already......
3. If you want to join and are NOT on the list then PM me and I'll add you if you are currently studying/currently applying
Is it good or bad that universities implement a random selection process for physiotherapy applicants (i.e. offers given without/after interview on a complete random basis)? See link!
Personally, i think its an unfair way of picking applicants, because the admissions staff only have the UCAS personal statement and mainly an academic profile to go on. Then to go and pick them at random, without interview is even worse.
An applicant should be picked on both academic and personal qualities(which would come out in the interview really). Because by picking random applicants from a system means that you could get a really academic person, but lacks the qualities and then an applicant who has the qualities but lacks the academic side.
I know that it costs alot of money for the uni's to interview applicants etc.
However, i think interviewing is the best way to get an overall 'analysis' of an applicant. Looking at it in one way, it kind of shows that those uni's arent really bothered about who does physio at their uni, but rather, aslong as they have 50 random applicants their happy.
If the uni's interview all the applicants, then pick them at random ...doesnt that just defy the whole point of investing all that time and money into choosing the right applicants.
So does this mean, if there's a uni we've applied to, which is not on the list, then the course is not approved/accredited by the HPC, meaning the course is invalid?
Also, does anyone know what the difference between a BHSc(Hons) Physiotherapy (which Leeds Uni do) and a BSc(Hons) Physiotherapy is ??
So does this mean, if there's a uni we've applied to, which is not on the list, then the course is not approved/accredited by the HPC, meaning the course is invalid?
Also, does anyone know what the difference between a BHSc(Hons) Physiotherapy (which Leeds Uni do) and a BSc(Hons) Physiotherapy is ??
I can't see any uni's missing from that list anyway.......
I don't think there is any difference apart from the fact that BHSc = Bachelors of Health Science or something like that whereas BSc is bachelor of science.....................the overall resulting degree is the same its just classified differently by some uni's
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Originally Posted by shoiab
Personally, i think its an unfair way of picking applicants, because the admissions staff only have the UCAS personal statement and mainly an academic profile to go on. Then to go and pick them at random, without interview is even worse.
An applicant should be picked on both academic and personal qualities(which would come out in the interview really). Because by picking random applicants from a system means that you could get a really academic person, but lacks the qualities and then an applicant who has the qualities but lacks the academic side.
I know that it costs alot of money for the uni's to interview applicants etc.
However, i think interviewing is the best way to get an overall 'analysis' of an applicant. Looking at it in one way, it kind of shows that those uni's arent really bothered about who does physio at their uni, but rather, aslong as they have 50 random applicants their happy.
If the uni's interview all the applicants, then pick them at random ...doesnt that just defy the whole point of investing all that time and money into choosing the right applicants.
offering places at random after interview would probably only occur say if they had 100 suitbale applicants but only 80 places.....they would have to cut 20.....
oh sorry, i got the wrong idea....erm yeah, if they interview 100 people and there all good and only have 80 places, then i think its slightly more fairer to randomly select them, but then again..if you look at it from a different point of view...if you've tried your best and you havent got a place,then it wasnt meant to be.
JackieS, what are your views on this random selection process ??
oh sorry, i got the wrong idea....erm yeah, if they interview 100 people and there all good and only have 80 places, then i think its slightly more fairer to randomly select them, but then again..if you look at it from a different point of view...if you've tried your best and you havent got a place,then it wasnt meant to be.
JackieS, what are your views on this random selection process ??
I think it depends when the random selection takes aplce - if it occurs after you've interviewed and you're trying to get rid of some good students from a bunch of those you're wanting to accept then thats probably not too bad as you will have already decided that they're good enough for your course and its juts bad luck that they got rejected. However, if like some are doing, they are using the random selection as a means of choosing candidates INSTEAD of interviewing then I don't think thats at all fair. I think it leads to very good candidates slipping through the net whilst some who are perhaps not so good being chosen instead.........
I think it depends when the random selection takes aplce - if it occurs after you've interviewed and you're trying to get rid of some good students from a bunch of those you're wanting to accept then thats probably not too bad as you will have already decided that they're good enough for your course and its juts bad luck that they got rejected. However, if like some are doing, they are using the random selection as a means of choosing candidates INSTEAD of interviewing then I don't think thats at all fair. I think it leads to very good candidates slipping through the net whilst some who are perhaps not so good being chosen instead.........
I totally agree. From my own experience random selection before any interview is unfair. It leads to the possiblity that one student may, by luck of the draw, receive 6 offers whilst another student, equally deserving of a place on a physio course, could receive no offers.
I was lucky enough to get 2 offers through the random selection process but was rejected from 3 by the same system. The two uni's both didn't interview at all, which I think is another problem.
I'm in full support of all physio applicants having to be interviewed. To be a physio you need to be able to communicate and I think that interviews give you a chance to show this skill. There are individuals on my course who have poor communication skills, these have been found out and they've been kicked off the course which in my opinion is a great shame. Their places could have gone to someone more deserving if they'd only been interviewed.
I totally agree. From my own experience random selection before any interview is unfair. It leads to the possiblity that one student may, by luck of the draw, receive 6 offers whilst another student, equally deserving of a place on a physio course, could receive no offers.
I was lucky enough to get 2 offers through the random selection process but was rejected from 3 by the same system. The two uni's both didn't interview at all, which I think is another problem.
I'm in full support of all physio applicants having to be interviewed. To be a physio you need to be able to communicate and I think that interviews give you a chance to show this skill. There are individuals on my course who have poor communication skills, these have been found out and they've been kicked off the course which in my opinion is a great shame. Their places could have gone to someone more deserving if they'd only been interviewed.
Does anyone know the exact list of uni's that employ this random selection process PRIOR to interview? I'd just be intrigued to know more than anything. I know that Georges still inteview and have no plans to stop doing so.,
I also know that KCL do not interview however I don't know if they employ random selection.....
Does anyone know the exact list of uni's that employ this random selection process PRIOR to interview? I'd just be intrigued to know more than anything. I know that Georges still inteview and have no plans to stop doing so.,
I also know that KCL do not interview however I don't know if they employ random selection.....
the "lottery" system is totally unfair leeds met say they choose from a "stratified sample"which is just a nice way of saying randomly chosen. i think physio selection process should be made like medcine and vet med, you should have 4 choices instead of 6 and all appliciants should be interviewd.
I aint too sure about reducing it down to 4 choices.
However, like the medic. applicants they tend to apply for 4 medicine and then apply to 2 courses and are able to transfer nto medicine, like biomedical sciences, clinical sciences etc
Are there any similar courses like that with physiotherapy?
I aint too sure about reducing it down to 4 choices.
However, like the medic. applicants they tend to apply for 4 medicine and then apply to 2 courses and are able to transfer nto medicine, like biomedical sciences, clinical sciences etc
Are there any similar courses like that with physiotherapy?
I too am not too sure about lowering it to 4 choices - I can only see that this would be an advantage to the universities but not to the applicants. The uni's get to look through fewer personal statements but the applicants have less chance of getting in as they have applied to fewer choices.............seeing as its already damm hard to get in I don't really se ehow this would be of benefit................
as for applying for other courses and transfering I don't think there is anywhere where you can start one course and then transfer straight into physio afetr a certain time.....................I know some uni's might let you switch to physio but you would be expected to apply like everyone else through UCAS and then you would be expected to restart the entire course....................instead what happens is people tend to go for other degrees e.g. sports therapy, sports science, anatomy etc and then do a second degree or apply for graduate entry..........
as for applying for other courses and transfering I don't think there is anywhere where you can start one course and then transfer straight into physio afetr a certain time.....................I know some uni's might let you switch to physio but you would be expected to apply like everyone else through UCAS and then you would be expected to restart the entire course....................instead what happens is people tend to go for other degrees e.g. sports therapy, sports science, anatomy etc and then do a second degree or apply for graduate entry..........
I don't think there is anywhere which would say that they allow this but it does happen. One of my friends on my course did exactly that. She didn't get a physio offer but went to the uni anyway, once there she went to the department and asked why she didn't get an offer when she was predicted and gained grades well above what was asked. The uni said that it was luck of the draw but she could have a place for the next year without reapplying as she was too late to transfer for that year.
I don't think there is anywhere which would say that they allow this but it does happen. One of my friends on my course did exactly that. She didn't get a physio offer but went to the uni anyway, once there she went to the department and asked why she didn't get an offer when she was predicted and gained grades well above what was asked. The uni said that it was luck of the draw but she could have a place for the next year without reapplying as she was too late to transfer for that year.
what I was trying to get at is that transferring to physio would not be like transferring to medicine. Some uni's allow you to transfer from biomedicine to medicine if you get something ridiculous like 80% every year for thewhoole of your biomed degree (3years) and then you're allowed to transfer to year 4 of medicine for the remaining 2 years.........................you wouldn't be able to do this on physio - you wouldn't be able to do say year 1 of sports science and then the next year go straight into year 2 of physio - you would have to go back to year 1 and start again
I got my exam results - did really well - sooooo happy!
hey, thats fab, well done you!!
We've got to wait until the 2nd week of Feb!!!!!! How rubbish is that?! At least I know I passed one, the anatomy practical.....the rest is anyones guess!! Pretty sure I've failed the pathology exam, the entire module was self taught!!! Totally mad way of learning but there you go....
University course discussion for physiotherapy, occupational therapy and nursing etc.
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At least I know I passed one, the anatomy practical.....the rest is anyones guess!! Pretty sure I've failed the pathology exam, the entire module was self taught!!! Totally mad way of learning but there you go.... 
