St Andrews Applicants 2012

Congrats everyone so far who has an offer!
Having bitterly convinced myself that St A only accept Americans, EU students, Scots and mega rich people, I was utterly surprised to get a phone call asking if I would like a place Some UCAS mess-up said that I had already rejected them so they asked if I'd accept another course (which was actually the course I had applied to)

Anyways, I have an offer for Molecular Biology. But the main reason for message is this - My expected grades are AAB - So if you're a little intimidated by all these A* applicants raving about being accepted at Oxbridge and not St A then don't be! The guy on the phone implied it was hugely based of PS and a well-rounded character. Good luck to all you guys still waiting!!

Unconditional for computer science came through today!!!!!!!!!! Woooooooo!!!!!!!!!! Woooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! I FEEL LIKE A CHEETAH ON COCAINE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

I got an unconditional for MA Economics, with my 37 points in the IB! They switched me to it from a conditional of Econ - IR asking 38 points AND for me to be classified "overseas". I'm really happy and feel lucky since my IGCSE grades for example aren't anything special.

Now that they've removed that condition, I'd really like to try to change my classification to "EU" (slightly possible). However, I wouldn't want to take the risk of having my offer wirthdrawn! Especially since I previously had that condition, which suggests that my Fee $tatu$ "might" have been a factor why they accepted me...

Can they wirthdraw an unconditional offer even if I have already accepted it?

Yeah that's what I thought. Thank goodness!

In my case, I was informed that "You were classed as an Overseas student back in December, and that is how we processed your application. Should you wish to change fee status to Home, we would have to re-consider your application under the Home/EU framework. At this time of year, we have no further places, so it is possible that your offer would be rescinded, should your fee status be changed."

I guess it depends on the University. I think I'll accept the offer anyway and just put up with the cost, and then maybe get a lower fee for 2nd year.

Hello! Has anyone firmed for Computer Science?

Yup, you?

It's because overseas and home/EU students are considered for place differently. I mean, really differently. And sad to say, most of it is based on the fact that you bring in a lot more cash than the rest of us.

I'm not 100%, but I'm pretty sure what you're suggesting to do; potentially changing fee status in 2nd year won't work. I can be wrong, but my guess is that they'll say straight out that you're not allowed to do that. But one thing I am fairly sure of it that your fee won't change over the course of the degree. Besides maybe some inflation, it'll stay the same, so no horrific jumps in cost.
Hopefully, if I'm wrong one of the others will tell me, but I'm pretty sure you can't switch fee status once you're here. Sorry.

Found this:
"Students who are unhappy with being assessed as overseas fee payers may challenging their fee status after they have accepted a place on the course. However, fees set at the time of the matriculation must be paid. Refunds will be given, if a student status changes the fee due. Note: When a fee statusis reasessed after the term starts, the home fees are charged for the next academic year"
- http://www.docstoc.com/docs/16206543/FEE-STATUS
It's written by St. Andrews. However, it's maybe a bit outdated.

I've not managed to find anything about this on the university's system, but the document you found looks legit. And it more or less looks like you can start asking around about the change once you're here. As long as you qualify for home fee status. Are you in the EU...? Because I find it odd you became an overseas fee payer if you said in the application that you're from Holland or somewhere.

Hi! My case is complicated, but if you're interested I'll summarize it haha.
To be classified as EU, you have to have been "ordinarily resident" in the EU for 3 years before the starting date of the course. I'm from Finland, but I've been living in Peru for seven years... a long time!

BUT there is one valid exception: parent's "temporary work overseas". For this, a contract is needed as proof. My mom is self-employed, she came here to invest, therefore there is NO contract, but my argument would be to say that she originally came here to invest short-term, but due to economic difficulty (coincides with the 2007-2008 financial crisis) we were unable to return to Finland. Also, she intents to return to Finland -yeah, maybe not, but you know, sometimes you have to make a case

My father is and always has been resident in Finland. This should help, since "significant ties" are also a factor. This includes family, property and so on.

I'd say I have a 20% chance, it's not too big since the university will "do anything" to keep me as international. Like my admission officer here said, they're "de$perate for money" in these economically hard times

But that's what I'll do. Once I'm settled there and have my bags unpacked I'll begin to ask around -once they can't kick me out! Lol

Hi! My case is complicated, but if you're interested I'll summarize it haha.
To be classified as EU, you have to have been "ordinarily resident" in the EU for 3 years before the starting date of the course. I'm from Finland, but I've been living in Peru for seven years... a long time!

BUT there is one valid exception: parent's "temporary work overseas". For this, a contract is needed as proof. My mom is self-employed, she came here to invest, therefore there is NO contract, but my argument would be to say that she originally came here to invest short-term, but due to economic difficulty (coincides with the 2007-2008 financial crisis) we were unable to return to Finland. Also, she intents to return to Finland -yeah, maybe not, but you know, sometimes you have to make a case

My father is and always has been resident in Finland. This should help, since "significant ties" are also a factor. This includes family, property and so on.

I'd say I have a 20% chance, it's not too big since the university will "do anything" to keep me as international. Like my admission officer here said, they're "de$perate for money" in these economically hard times

But that's what I'll do. Once I'm settled there and have my bags unpacked I'll begin to ask around -once they can't kick me out! Lol

Firmed St Andrews

I don't know what the specifics of your case are, but if you are a Finnish citizen with a Finnish passport, you just tell them you lived within the EU for the past three years and be over with it. Nothing that you resided in Peru for 7 years.

I am an EU citizen and have lived in the EU my whole life, but if I did live outside the EU for the past 3 years, no one would know about it and no one requires an actual proof that you have in fact resided within the EU 3 years prior to your university enrollment.

Was it absolutely necessary to reveal the fact that you resided in Peru?

Hello !

I have a question... I received a conditional offer to study in St Andrews, and on the offer on UCAS they say I need to provide them with evidence of all my previous qualifications. So here's the question: should I send them my reports from previous years or is the information I added on the UCAS application enough ?
Just so you know, I am not in the UK, I live in Brussels, and study in an European School (I don't know if you've heard of them) and I'm preparing my European Baccalaureate, if you want to know everything .

No one wants to help me ?