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Babies, Atheists?

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    Short and sweet; Do you consider babies to be atheists?

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    I would say yes, just like language this is not coded into you imo.
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    They are generally ignorant of any experience of a "God" as such knowledge cannot be considered innate; it has to be taught. So yes.

    That said, in order to be an Atheist, don't you have to be aware that the concept of a god exists in order for you not to believe in him? So no.

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    Babies are atheist.

    Babies have an absence of theism (for that matter, an absence of any belief system) - therefore babies are a-theist, or atheist.



    Someone might argue that everyone has a predisposition towards God, but even if that were true, it certainly does not seem to mature and manifest itself without assistance and teaching from parents; so certainly theism is not innate, or at least innate and active in a baby.
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    (Original post by Munchies-YumYum)
    Short and sweet; Do you consider babies to be atheists?

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    No, ignorant perhaps and unaware as babies have no idea about their surrondings. They don't know who is who, they don't know when they are in danger, and so on.
    Of course I don't know why I gave a serious answer to a stupid question....
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    Seeing as atheism is defined as just the absence of belief, personally I'd say yes. Though I'm sure those who argue that atheism is itself a belief won't agree.
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    Atheism is the default position. Before a baby has professed - or discovered, or whatever - a belief in a religion, it is an atheist.

    To say of a baby that he is a follower of a certain faith makes no more sense than to say that he is one, for example, of a specific school of economics, or of a particular moral philosophy, or of a particular football club. We cannot consider a baby to be of any faith; babies lack faith or belief necessarily, since they know nothing of theology. Hence they are atheist.
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    No, they are agnostic as they are undecided on whether or not a God exists. Atheists have weighed up and evaluated the options and have decided that there is no God.
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    To use a a ananolgy (I think, LOL I didn't take English A-Level. Might be a metaphor for all I know).

    Babies are a clean slate. In which we imbune them with what ever culture we are in, through socialisation. Some people call Relgion innate. I call it something you learn.
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    (Original post by Moleman1996)
    No, they are agnostic as they are undecided on whether or not a God exists. Atheists have weighed up and evaluated the options and have decided that there is no God.
    Agnosticism is the position that the existence of God is unknowable, whereas atheism is not following a specific faith. Seeing as a baby does not follow a specific faith they are atheist by default. I realise that many will question whether you can be an atheist without understanding the concept of God, but understanding is not necessary. Atheism is not an active position, it is by its definition a default position.
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    Depends how you define atheism.

    Absence of belief: yes.
    Belief that there is no god: no.
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    It makes no sense to call a baby an atheist simply because you think they lack belief in God. A baby hasn't yet developed full cognitive function - it would be like calling a cow or a tree an atheist, which is clearly a misuse of the label.
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    (Original post by thunder_chunky)
    No, ignorant perhaps and unaware as babies have no idea about their surrondings. They don't know who is who, they don't know when they are in danger, and so on.
    Of course I don't know why I gave a serious answer to a stupid question....
    Fair enough, the answers given seem to differ as you can see from the poll as well, it's 50/50.
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    Ok maybe "ignorant" wasn't the best word for me to use.
    But I stand by the rest.
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    No.

    They have no idea about any religion, or theological concept/rubbish.

    In that sence, they are absent of belief.

    If only they were allowed to stay that way...
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    Since atheism is not believing in a deity, I'd say technically yes, babies are atheists.
    I don't think babies have the capacity to believe in such abstract things like deities. Only when the child is able to question and/or interpret beliefs (to an extent) they belong to a religion (or lack thereof)- this is probably around the time that parents encourage religion or they go to a religious school.
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    Strictly speaking, atheism is defined as a lack of belief in deities. So if we're going by the premise that babies are unable to hold beliefs of any kind, you might describe them as "atheist". But then, isn't this all a bit pointless? You might as well describe my television or my lamp as atheist as well then. It seems to be nothing more than an exercise in semantics rather than a meaningful discussion.

    But actually, I think babies do have innate (perhaps subconscious) beliefs - for example, the belief that they exist, the belief that drinking their milk will satisfy their hunger etc. If they have these sorts of beliefs, then I don't see why they couldn't have beliefs which may be described as theistic. Whether or not they actually have such beliefs - who knows?
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    (Original post by thunder_chunky)
    No, ignorant perhaps and unaware as babies have no idea about their surrondings. They don't know who is who, they don't know when they are in danger, and so on.
    Of course I don't know why I gave a serious answer to a stupid question....
    A similar view to yours.
    The way we use the word, there's an opinion being presented. There are concepts at work. It doesn't make sense for babies to be atheists because they don't have an opinion, a belief, an understanding of the concepts. It would be like saying that my chair is an atheist.
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    (Original post by tazarooni89)
    Strictly speaking, atheism is defined as a lack of belief in deities. So if we're going by the premise that babies are unable to hold beliefs of any kind, you might describe them as "atheist". But then, isn't this all a bit pointless? You might as well describe my television or my lamp as atheist as well then. It seems to be nothing more than an exercise in semantics rather than a meaningful discussion.

    But actually, I think babies do have innate (perhaps subconscious) beliefs - for example, the belief that they exist, the belief that drinking their milk will satisfy their hunger etc. If they have these sorts of beliefs, then I don't see why they couldn't have beliefs which may be described as theistic. Whether or not they actually have such beliefs - who knows?
    May as well not have bloody replied.
    That said, I don't think the "belief" is as complex as that (for satisfying their hunger).
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    Yes. Their minds are blank slates, meaning that babies have no belief in god.

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