[MJK91]

(Original post by Witty Username)
No, I had applied before (unsuccesfully) as an undergrad after which I decided it wasn't what I wanted to do any more. I took a gap year then started my degree (best decision ever) and I'm so glad I decided to take this path.

I only started to reconsider it as an option around the start of 2nd year, I reckon you'd get pretty down if it was always on your mind throughout your degree.

This is me, hands down. Except 3rd year, and not second.

I agree that if you started your degree wanting to be a medic it'd be a pretty depressing affair, and terribly hard to pull of the all-nighters.

[groovyangel2008]

(Original post by MattKneale)
Just to clarify, I'm aware there is not a 1:2 or anything like that and that a first can be written just as 1st, but if you search on Google 1:1 is quite commonly used too! Semantics :P

Aren't almost all medical schools tough to get into? GAMSAT reduces the applicants : offer ratio quite a bit compared to UKCAT, but aren't most UKCAT uni's pretty similar in terms of competition at graduate entry?

Warwick don't look at A-levels, so one can only assume they go off UKCAT, experience and personal statement. The UKCAT is hit and miss but I have decent experience (with hopefully more to come) and I feel confident with personal statements & interviews should I get that far. If I get a 675+ UKCAT, why would I stand less chance at Warwick to, say, Southampton?

Bristol require decent A-levels, so that's a clear no. Liverpool also require BBB. Keele only offer 10 places and is GAMSAT anyway, so I don't see all that much logic in those choices given I can't apply to two of them and the other is GAMSAT (why apply there instead of Nottingham or SGUL?).

Not trying to be offensive, just curious as to why you think those in particular would suit my background? Have I missed something?

Matt

(Original post by tamimi)
1:1 - Fair enough, I just never heard of/used the term.

Aren't all med unis tough to get into? Yes, of course, but some more than others.

They don't look at A levels? Some do. In the same sense that some unis look at GCSEs when you apply for an undergrad degree.

Keele, Liverpool and Bristol are the ones I would like. I don't know anything about you so it'd be silly to tell you what unis to go to.

No offence taken

Just to let you know that Keele have stopped their GEM course! They only have the 5 year undergraduate course now.

[MJK91]

(Original post by groovyangel2008)
Just to let you know that Keele have stopped their GEM course! They only have the 5 year undergraduate course now.

Ah yeah, that does ring some bells. Pity, does anyone know of any graduate courses being CREATED in the coming years?

[Witty Username]

(Original post by MattKneale)
Ah yeah, that does ring some bells. Pity, does anyone know of any graduate courses being CREATED in the coming years?

I wish
There have been a few changes to existing ones though. Oxford GEM is using the BMAT rather than UKCAT this year

[MJK91]

(Original post by Witty Username)
I wish
There have been a few changes to existing ones though. Oxford GEM is using the BMAT rather than UKCAT this year

All negative changes then? It seems a pity they don't create more opportunities for graduate entrants, particularly science graduates. Take Biomedical Science graduates, for example, we learn a lot of science relevant to medicine and it seems a pity that we can't be taken advantage of by the system. Seems like a waste of talent, but I suppose I'm just bitter and biased haha.

[looroll94]

Hey, I wanna do medicine but don't have the grades so i need to go through the graduate route :L

Any advice on what degree to do first or what uni would be a good choice ??

Thanks
xx

[Vulpes]

(Original post by looroll94)
Hey, I wanna do medicine but don't have the grades so i need to go through the graduate route :L

Any advice on what degree to do first or what uni would be a good choice ??

Thanks
xx

Hi,

I suggest you take a look at our TSR Medicine Wiki, particularly the Guide to Graduate Entry Medicine.

A lot of medical schools will prefer you to do a health sciences related degree but it is not compulsory for most of them. There aren't any good or bad medical schools as they are all GMC approved. However, different medical schools have different methods of delivering the course through TBL and PBL. (look into that)

Graduate Entry medicine is an extremely competitive route to take. If you have any further questions after looking through those articles, feel free to quote me in your next post.

Hope that helps

[looroll94]

(Original post by Vulpes)
Hi,

I suggest you take a look at our TSR Medicine Wiki, particularly the Guide to Graduate Entry Medicine.

A lot of medical schools will prefer you to do a health sciences related degree but it is not compulsory for most of them. There aren't any good or bad medical schools as they are all GMC approved. However, different medical schools have different methods of delivering the course through TBL and PBL. (look into that)

Graduate Entry medicine is an extremely competitive route to take. If you have any further questions after looking through those articles, feel free to quote me in your next post.

Hope that helps

Yeah i would deffo do a science course but there are so many to choose from :s Is there any biosciences degrees that they would prefer for grad medicine? Also would it be any easier to get into grad medicine if i did my first degree at a uni that also offers medicine ??

[Vulpes]

(Original post by looroll94)
Yeah i would deffo do a science course but there are so many to choose from :s Is there any biosciences degrees that they would prefer for grad medicine? Also would it be any easier to get into grad medicine if i did my first degree at a uni that also offers medicine ??

A lot of people would go for Biomedical Sciences although it is not a stated requirement / preference. Not necessarily, I have marked this thread for a thread move into the Medicine forum, where you should get replies from people who have successfully applied via the graduate-entry route.

[groovyangel2008]

(Original post by MattKneale)
All negative changes then? It seems a pity they don't create more opportunities for graduate entrants, particularly science graduates. Take Biomedical Science graduates, for example, we learn a lot of science relevant to medicine and it seems a pity that we can't be taken advantage of by the system. Seems like a waste of talent, but I suppose I'm just bitter and biased haha.

Well Warwick medical school is now open to applicants of any degree which I guess is a positive change and I heard that the Newcastle GEP course is thinking of increasing their intake number.

[MJK91]

(Original post by groovyangel2008)
Well Warwick medical school is now open to applicants of any degree which I guess is a positive change and I heard that the Newcastle GEP course is thinking of increasing their intake number.

Its certainly not a positive change if you're a science graduate like me, more competition! good news about Newcastle GEM if its true though

[select the right name]

(Original post by MattKneale)
Its certainly not a positive change if you're a science graduate like me, more competition! good news about Newcastle GEM if its true though

I wouldn't get overly excited about the increase in places for Newcastle Accelerated programme. It's only increasing from 23 to 28-30, if they're allowed to! Nothing was definite.

[Witty Username]

(Original post by MattKneale)
Its certainly not a positive change if you're a science graduate like me, more competition! good news about Newcastle GEM if its true though

Ditto

[reee]

Hey guys, I am wondering if it is a good idea to apply to just non UKCAT unis (Bristol, Liverpool and bham?) I started doing the UKCAT and tbh I am finding it quite difficult.

Since there are only 3 non UKCAT unis, Am I allowed to apply for both undergraduate and postgraduate(same UNI)?

Any help please? I will carry on practicing the UKCAT but really, I can't see myself doing really well.

[MJK91]

(Original post by select the right name)
I wouldn't get overly excited about the increase in places for Newcastle Accelerated programme. It's only increasing from 23 to 28-30, if they're allowed to! Nothing was definite.

Still, better than nothing?

[MJK91]

(Original post by reee)
Hey guys, I am wondering if it is a good idea to apply to just non UKCAT unis (Bristol, Liverpool and bham?) I started doing the UKCAT and tbh I am finding it quite difficult.

Since there are only 3 non UKCAT unis, Am I allowed to apply for both undergraduate and postgraduate(same UNI)?

Any help please? I will carry on practicing the UKCAT but really, I can't see myself doing really well.

The UKCAT is, in my eyes, 60% technique (knowing when to flag questions to come back to) and recognising the right signs from the questions, and then 20% knowledge and 20% luck. The knowledge comes from brushing up on your maths (try GCSE papers, BBC bitesize etc), and through reading and practicing gathering information from large chunks of text.

Then there's the luck, and it's significant because some people are naturally going to get more questions that 'click' with them, or that are easier and shorter. This is particularly important in QR & AR. If you think a question will take ages, or it's beyond you, flag it. At the end of all the easier questions you can do, come back and have another look if you have time. If you don't, guess intelligently (A,B,C,B,A,B,C etc). You'll get some right by chance.

It's do-able, hundreds of people get very good scores with not a whole lot of practice, give it a go as it'll open up your options significantly.

[Nasher and Basher]

(Original post by MattKneale)
Still, better than nothing?

Definitely

[Lantana]

(Original post by select the right name)
I wouldn't get overly excited about the increase in places for Newcastle Accelerated programme. It's only increasing from 23 to 28-30, if they're allowed to! Nothing was definite.

30 cramed in that room for lectures

[select the right name]

(Original post by Lantana)
30 cramed in that room for lectures

Yeah, that's what I thought! Should be, er......interesting!

[canŵio]

Hello all,

I'm starting a degree in September (see sig). It's what I really wanted to do when leaving school and I know I'll enjoy it.

However, I'm now having thoughts about what career I'd like to have, and I know I want to be a doctor. I wanted to before but really wanted to look further into Biology first, because it really interests me and I wouldn't want to leave that behind.

After my degree, I'd prefer to go for Grad Medicine but wouldn't mind doing the long course either.

At the end of my first year, I've got the option to either continue on a Biology degree or a Biomed degree. My question is, which would be better for a Medicine application, if any?
I got the feeling when I was applying that Biomed was the second choice for those who didn't get into Medicine - which is why I didn't choose it in the beginning. However, it does seem like a relevant degree, wouldn't it give those who studied it a leg-up over those who weren't studying anything medical or is it seen as second-choice in university applications too?

Thank you for any help/advice/ideas