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Re: graduate entry medicine : how hard can it be to get into?Yea, around that. But not a lot of people who get lower than 600 post their results here. Thus making it seem like the average is a lot higher(Original post by quasa)
also i thought people get around 600 average for UKCAT
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Re: graduate entry medicine : how hard can it be to get into?Just that module I averaged a 2.2 in second year but graduated with a 2.1 overall. I reached a brick wall in year 2 where I simply stopped caring. Thank goodness I got my act together in final year!(Original post by quasa)
so u got 46% overall for 2nd year or just for a module/exam? -
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Re: graduate entry medicine : how hard can it be to get into?Think of a normal distribution and you'll find the mean is 600. You don't want to be an average candidate if you can help it!(Original post by quasa)
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Re: graduate entry medicine : how hard can it be to get into?It's not. The most recent collation of data showed that the mean had shifted to about 630 with a s.d. of ~21.(Original post by I<3LAMP)
Think of a normal distribution and you'll find the mean is 600. You don't want to be an average candidate if you can help it! -
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Re: graduate entry medicine : how hard can it be to get into?similar story to me in year 2, except mentally i was suffering coz i was in student accomodation staying next to a foreign student who thought that it was ok to play loud music all day everyday and be physically abusive in front of the landlord; as well as a couple of drunken idiots who were in my seminar group who loved playing loud music and getting on my nerves (1 of them has to repeat 2nd year and the other got a 3rd so serves those 2 right).(Original post by I<3LAMP)
Just that module I averaged a 2.2 in second year but graduated with a 2.1 overall. I reached a brick wall in year 2 where I simply stopped caring. Thank goodness I got my act together in final year!
anyways, in terms of pharmacy, is it true apparently 3rd year has least workload c.f. 2nd year?Last edited by quasa; 28-07-2011 at 16:47. Reason: n/c -
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Re: graduate entry medicine : how hard can it be to get into?There is more information in this thread.
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Re: graduate entry medicine : how hard can it be to get into?Ooh ok. Damn everyone is getting more practised.(Original post by GodspeedGehenna)
It's not. The most recent collation of data showed that the mean had shifted to about 630 with a s.d. of ~21.
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Re: graduate entry medicine : how hard can it be to get into?Sounds fairly typical of student accommodation. I sincerely hope you're not going to be playing the 'mitigating circumstances' card.(Original post by quasa)
similar story to me in year 2, except mentally i was suffering coz i was in student accomodation staying next to a spanish dickhead who thought that it was ok to play loud music all day everyday & physically attack me in front of the landlord & a couple of drunken idiots who were in my seminar group who loved playing loud music and getting on my nerves (1 of them has to repeat 2nd year and the other got a 3rd so serves those 2 right). -
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Re: graduate entry medicine : how hard can it be to get into?Ouch...well I hope you redeem yourself this year.(Original post by quasa)
similar story to me in year 2, except mentally i was suffering coz i was in student accomodation staying next to a spanish dickhead who thought that it was ok to play loud music all day everyday & physically attack me in front of the landlord & a couple of drunken idiots who were in my seminar group who loved playing loud music and getting on my nerves (1 of them has to repeat 2nd year and the other got a 3rd so serves those 2 right).
anyways, in terms of pharmacy, is it true apparently 3rd year has least workload c.f. 2nd year?
No idea about pharmacy I'm afraid, I studied Biomed.
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Re: graduate entry medicine : how hard can it be to get into?Ouch...well I hope you redeem yourself this year.(Original post by quasa)
similar story to me in year 2, except mentally i was suffering coz i was in student accomodation staying next to a spanish dickhead who thought that it was ok to play loud music all day everyday & physically attack me in front of the landlord & a couple of drunken idiots who were in my seminar group who loved playing loud music and getting on my nerves (1 of them has to repeat 2nd year and the other got a 3rd so serves those 2 right).
anyways, in terms of pharmacy, is it true apparently 3rd year has least workload c.f. 2nd year?
No idea about pharmacy I'm afraid, I studied Biomed.
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Re: graduate entry medicine : how hard can it be to get into?It was published by some organisation. Probably was Pearson VUE. The .pdf was floating around the subforum for a while.(Original post by I<3LAMP)
Ooh ok. Damn everyone is getting more practised.
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Re: graduate entry medicine : how hard can it be to get into?I can't imagine it being so black and white. If there are 1500 people applying for 40 places, then there's no way luck doesn't play a part.(Original post by GodspeedGehenna)
Luck doesn't come into it. You're either what they're looking for or you're not.
Since there are no 100% objective criteria, luck will play a part anyway. -
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Re: graduate entry medicine : how hard can it be to get into?Luck doesn't come into it.(Original post by Monco)
I can't imagine it being so black and white. If there are 1500 people applying for 40 places, then there's no way luck doesn't play a part.
Since there are no 100% objective criteria, luck will play a part anyway.
Either you're good enough, by whatever standard they're using, to be in the top 40, or you're not.
They don't pick your name out of a hat, bro. And just because it's subjective doesn't mean it's random, either. -
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Re: graduate entry medicine : how hard can it be to get into?I know it's not random. But since we don't know which criteria they use, one cannot say beforehand if he/she is good enough or not. So in that sense, it's luck. You need to be lucky, in the sense that you're the person they're looking for.(Original post by GodspeedGehenna)
Luck doesn't come into it.
Either you're good enough, by whatever standard they're using, to be in the top 40, or you're not.
They don't pick your name out of a hat, bro. And just because it's subjective doesn't mean it's random, either.Last edited by Monco; 28-07-2011 at 17:17. -
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Re: graduate entry medicine : how hard can it be to get into?Do you not bother reading the admission pages then? Or speak to the countless students that have been through the process? Or hell, even straight up ask them what they look for?(Original post by Monco)
But since we don't know which criteria they use
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Re: graduate entry medicine : how hard can it be to get into?Well it's pointless isn't it? The admission pages list very broad criteria. Take the Southampton criteria ( http://www.som.soton.ac.uk/undergrad/course/bm4/entry/ ). I bet there's hundereds of people that meet them.
However, how does soton decide who's more suitable if they receive 1500 applications of candidates who meet the criteria on the page? No one knows, at least the info is not public.Last edited by Monco; 28-07-2011 at 19:13. -
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Re: Graduate Medicine- Advice please(Original post by Monco)
So you're saying Oxbridge is less competitive than most uni's? I would not have thought that to be the case.
Yes that is exactly what I am saying.
And in response to another poster asking for a chemistry A-level and some kind of scientific degree is hardly a specific entry requirement, in fact Cambridge will take any degree subject.
I suspect the reputation and what is said at some of the open days put people off - in that it is very self directed learning.
Also I can assure you there were more than 9 places for 2010 entry!!!! Oxford has places for 33 GEM students each year which is pretty average. In fact, Warwick aside, most universities only have 25 places.Last edited by Alice249; 28-07-2011 at 18:25. -
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Re: graduate entry medicine : how hard can it be to get into?i agree with the gahenna in that u need to ask people, admin people so on & so forth about these things and that ur shooting urself in the foot by just applying, but i still think that luck has something to do with it (some guy who went to my friend's uni dropped out of MPharm after 2 years, done biomed at a uni ranked between 100-112 & is starting medicine at imperial this september)
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Re: graduate entry medicine : how hard can it be to get into?Grad Med course admissions people don't care in the slightest where you got your first degree.(Original post by quasa)
i agree with the gahenna in that u need to ask people, admin people so on & so forth about these things and that ur shooting urself in the foot by just applying, but i still think that luck has something to do with it (some guy who went to my friend's uni dropped out of MPharm after 2 years, done biomed at a uni ranked between 100-112 & is starting medicine at imperial this september)
