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Reply 100
Original post by sharkin7765
When do Oxford post admissions statistics for 2012 entry?
They haven't posted 2011 entry yet!
Reply 101
The latest statistics (these aren't very surprising or exciting) are the percentage of students for each degree who came from independent schools:

1.

Classics 73.11%

2.

Classics & Modern Languages 72.73%

3.

Ancient & Modern History 57.89%

4.

Theology 57.14%

5.

Music 56.72%

6.

Geography 55.42%

7.

History & Economics 54.55%

8.

European & Middle Eastern Languages 53.85%

9.

History of Art 53.85%

10.

Modern Languages 50.86%

11.

Classics & English 50.00%

12.

History & Modern Languages 50.00%

13.

Philosophy & Theology 48.00%

14.

Archaeology and Anthropology 47.83%

15.

Oriental Studies 46.34%

16.

Engineering Science 45.95%

17.

Engineering Economics and Management 45.45%

18.

PPP 45.16%

19.

History 44.44%

20.

English 43.67%

21.

Economics & Management 42.70%

22.

Medicine 42.31%

23.

Philosophy & Modern Languages 42.11%

24.

Materials Science and MEM 41.94%

25.

English & Modern Languages 40.00%

26.

Chemistry 40.00%

27.

Physics & Philosophy 38.27%

28.

Mathematics & Philosophy 38.10%

29.

Modern Languages & Linguistics 38.10%

30.

Physiological Sciences 37.50%

31.

Law/LSE 35.48%

32.

PPE 35.29%

33.

Mathematics 35.26%

34.

Biochemistry 34.74%

35.

Biological Sciences 34.55%

36.

Human Sciences 34.48%

37.

History & Politics 31.91%

38.

Physics 29.65%

39.

Experimental Psychology 29.63%

40.

Mathematics & Statistics 29.17%

41.

Classical Archaeology & Ancient History 28.57%

42.

Earth Sciences (Geology) 28.57%

43.

Fine Art 27.27%

44.

Law 26.80%

45.

Mathematics & Computer Science 26.09%

46.

History & English 25.00%

47.

Computer Science 15.79%



And in spreadsheet form because everyone loves a spreadsheet.
computer science at just 15%?! wow - didn't know that.
Reply 103
Original post by nexttime
computer science at just 15%?! wow - didn't know that.
It's a pretty staggering contrast!

I should probably point out that this doesn't mean that maintained/state schools make up 85%. Oxford categorise their schools into "Maintained Sector", "Independent" and "Other". I'm guessing Other includes overseas applicants, not sure who else though.
Original post by fluteflute
The latest statistics (these aren't very surprising or exciting) are the percentage of students for each degree who came from independent schools:

1.

Classics 73.11%

2.

Classics & Modern Languages 72.73%

3.

Ancient & Modern History 57.89%

4.

Theology 57.14%

5.

Music 56.72%

6.

Geography 55.42%

7.

History & Economics 54.55%

8.

European & Middle Eastern Languages 53.85%

9.

History of Art 53.85%

10.

Modern Languages 50.86%

11.

Classics & English 50.00%

12.

History & Modern Languages 50.00%

13.

Philosophy & Theology 48.00%

14.

Archaeology and Anthropology 47.83%

15.

Oriental Studies 46.34%

16.

Engineering Science 45.95%

17.

Engineering Economics and Management 45.45%

18.

PPP 45.16%

19.

History 44.44%

20.

English 43.67%

21.

Economics & Management 42.70%

22.

Medicine 42.31%

23.

Philosophy & Modern Languages 42.11%

24.

Materials Science and MEM 41.94%

25.

English & Modern Languages 40.00%

26.

Chemistry 40.00%

27.

Physics & Philosophy 38.27%

28.

Mathematics & Philosophy 38.10%

29.

Modern Languages & Linguistics 38.10%

30.

Physiological Sciences 37.50%

31.

Law/LSE 35.48%

32.

PPE 35.29%

33.

Mathematics 35.26%

34.

Biochemistry 34.74%

35.

Biological Sciences 34.55%

36.

Human Sciences 34.48%

37.

History & Politics 31.91%

38.

Physics 29.65%

39.

Experimental Psychology 29.63%

40.

Mathematics & Statistics 29.17%

41.

Classical Archaeology & Ancient History 28.57%

42.

Earth Sciences (Geology) 28.57%

43.

Fine Art 27.27%

44.

Law 26.80%

45.

Mathematics & Computer Science 26.09%

46.

History & English 25.00%

47.

Computer Science 15.79%



And in spreadsheet form because everyone loves a spreadsheet.


Interesting, although not unexpected, that there are far more science students from the state sector than there are arts students.
Original post by fudgesundae
Interesting, although not unexpected, that there are far more science students from the state sector than there are arts students.


That's what I thought. Well, when I first scanned through I thought he had categorised them into Arts and Sciences separately.. ^_^
Reply 106
Original post by nexttime
Next stats we need - stats on how many are pooled from each subject, and where those people subsequently get(or don't get) offers. :wink:


Here you go (only the request, no answers yet): http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/offers_made_by_colleges_not_appl
Original post by fluteflute
Here you go (only the request, no answers yet): http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/offers_made_by_colleges_not_appl


Oh wow thanks for that! Won't be as interesting as the stuff previously on this thread but since you're hoarding stats anyway :wink:
Reply 108
Original post by nexttime
Oh wow thanks for that! Won't be as interesting as the stuff previously on this thread but since you're hoarding stats anyway :wink:
Yeah, there's nothing that will really shock us there... But there could be some interesting stats that come out:

Do people who make open offers have a better or worse or equal chance of getting an offer?

Are reallocated candidates less likely to get an offer than those who are interviewed at their main college?

Which subjects tend to reallocate candidates

Which subjects make use of open offers

Original post by fluteflute
Yeah, there's nothing that will really shock us there... But there could be some interesting stats that come out:

Do people who make open offers have a better or worse or equal chance of getting an offer?

Are reallocated candidates less likely to get an offer than those who are interviewed at their main college?

Which subjects tend to reallocate candidates

Which subjects make use of open offers



Whilst stats are all well and good, we do have to be wary about taking too much from some of them. For instance, if/when such stats do come out, it may appear (for example) that those who make open applications (I assume you meant this rather than "offers") have a greater success rate. But since colleges don't know (I don't think) whether candidates have made specific or open applications, this would just represent a common factor (perhaps dedication/research/preparation) correlated with both specific application and application success.

I appreciate all your (and other people's) efforts on getting data so far, but we shouldn't overemphasise its importance.

Also, I pity the poor sod who has to process that FOI request...
Reply 110
Original post by michael321
Whilst stats are all well and good, we do have to be wary about taking too much from some of them. For instance, if/when such stats do come out, it may appear (for example) that those who make open applications (I assume you meant this rather than "offers&quot:wink: have a greater success rate. But since colleges don't know (I don't think) whether candidates have made specific or open applications, this would just represent a common factor (perhaps dedication/research/preparation) correlated with both specific application and application success.

I appreciate all your (and other people's) efforts on getting data so far, but we shouldn't overemphasise its importance.

Also, I pity the poor sod who has to process that FOI request...
I agree with you on all accounts :smile:
Have you seen these?

Be careful of the rounding however.
Original post by nulli tertius
Have you seen these?

Be careful of the rounding however.


Based on these statistics the areas which send the highest proportion of their undergraduate entrants to Oxbridge are:

Kensington and Chelsea - 7.05%
Richmond upon Thames - 6.82%
Camden - 6.73%
Westminster - 5.94%
Oxfordshire - 5.68%
Barnet - 4.39%
Kingston upon Thames - 3.93%
Hammersmith and Fulham - 3.93%
Surrey - 3.81%
Rutland - 3.7%

There were also more than 10 areas which sent between 0 and 4 students to Oxbridge.
Reply 113
In other news: application figures for the very most recent round of offers have been published by the Mathematics and Computer Science departments.
Reply 114
Following on from last weeks data about the degrees with the most students from independent schools, I now bring you statistics related to how many maintained/state school people end up at Oxford for a degree compared to the number you'd expect from the number that applied. If we ignore "Other" and focus on UK independent and maintained schools we get the figures below.

Subjects above 100% give more offers to state school applicants than would be expected based on the numbers that apply, subjects below 100% give less offers to state school applicants than you might expect from the breakdown of applicants.

Usual disclaimers apply and for calculations and data source see this spreadsheet.

1.

Theology & Oriental Studies 0.0%

2.

Engineering Economics and Management 70.5%

3.

PPP 77.4%

4.

History & Economics 77.8%

5.

Classics 79.8%

6.

History & Modern Languages 81.1%

7.

Classics & Modern Languages 81.8%

8.

Mathematics & Statistics 83.1%

9.

Law/LSE 83.4%

10.

Music 83.9%

11.

Oriental Studies 84.7%

12.

English & Modern Languages 85.1%

13.

Ancient & Modern History 85.3%

14.

Mathematics & Philosophy 85.6%

15.

Mathematics 86.5%

16.

Archaeology and Anthropology 88.7%

17.

Theology 88.9%

18.

Modern Languages & Linguistics 89.2%

19.

Medicine 89.2%

20.

Geography 89.7%

21.

TOTAL ARTS 89.8%

22.

Law 90.4%

23.

English 90.5%

24.

TOTAL 91.2%

25.

Chemistry 91.3%

26.

History of Art 92.0%

27.

Fine Art 92.0%

28.

Mathematics & Computer Science 92.1%

29.

TOTAL SCIENCES 92.4%

30.

History & English 94.5%

31.

History & Politics 94.7%

32.

Physics 94.8%

33.

Human Sciences 94.9%

34.

Biochemistry 96.6%

35.

Physics & Philosophy 96.9%

36.

Engineering Science 97.0%

37.

Philosophy & Theology 97.9%

38.

History 98.7%

39.

Modern Languages 98.9%

40.

Computer Science 100.2%

41.

Physiological Sciences 100.5%

42.

Biological Sciences 101.6%

43.

Experimental Psychology 101.9%

44.

PPE 102.2%

45.

Earth Sciences (Geology) 102.6%

46.

European & Middle Eastern Languages 102.9%

47.

Economics & Management 106.6%

48.

Classics & English 106.7%

49.

Philosophy & Modern Languages 107.7%

50.

Classical Archaeology & Ancient History 114.3%

51.

Materials Science and MEM 145.7%

(edited 12 years ago)
Original post by fluteflute
Following on from last weeks data about the degrees with the most students from independent schools, I now bring you statistics related to how many maintained/state school people end up at Oxford for a degree compared to the number you'd expect from the number that applied. If we ignore "Other" and focus on UK independent and maintained schools we get the figures below.

Subjects above 100% give more offers to state school applicants than would be expected based on the numbers that apply, subjects below 100% give less offers to state school applicants than you might expect from the breakdown of applicants.

Usual disclaimers apply and for calculations and data source see this spreadsheet.

1.

Theology & Oriental Studies 0.0%

2.

Engineering Economics and Management 70.5%

3.

PPP 77.4%

4.

History & Economics 77.8%

5.

Classics 79.8%

6.

History & Modern Languages 81.1%

7.

Classics & Modern Languages 81.8%

8.

Mathematics & Statistics 83.1%

9.

Law/LSE 83.4%

10.

Music 83.9%

11.

Oriental Studies 84.7%

12.

English & Modern Languages 85.1%

13.

Ancient & Modern History 85.3%

14.

Mathematics & Philosophy 85.6%

15.

Mathematics 86.5%

16.

Archaeology and Anthropology 88.7%

17.

Theology 88.9%

18.

Modern Languages & Linguistics 89.2%

19.

Medicine 89.2%

20.

Geography 89.7%

21.

TOTAL ARTS 89.8%

22.

Law 90.4%

23.

English 90.5%

24.

TOTAL 91.2%

25.

Chemistry 91.3%

26.

History of Art 92.0%

27.

Fine Art 92.0%

28.

Mathematics & Computer Science 92.1%

29.

TOTAL SCIENCES 92.4%

30.

History & English 94.5%

31.

History & Politics 94.7%

32.

Physics 94.8%

33.

Human Sciences 94.9%

34.

Biochemistry 96.6%

35.

Physics & Philosophy 96.9%

36.

Engineering Science 97.0%

37.

Philosophy & Theology 97.9%

38.

History 98.7%

39.

Modern Languages 98.9%

40.

Computer Science 100.2%

41.

Physiological Sciences 100.5%

42.

Biological Sciences 101.6%

43.

Experimental Psychology 101.9%

44.

PPE 102.2%

45.

Earth Sciences (Geology) 102.6%

46.

European & Middle Eastern Languages 102.9%

47.

Economics & Management 106.6%

48.

Classics & English 106.7%

49.

Philosophy & Modern Languages 107.7%

50.

Classical Archaeology & Ancient History 114.3%

51.

Materials Science and MEM 145.7%



So, the next step is to try to eliminate variation and find out which subjects differ significantly based on private/state school acceptance. Where did you get this data from? If you point to where i can find acceptance rates by subject i don't mind doing to t-tests. Its probably in this thread somewhere but there are so many data sets up now... What to take as significant will of course be difficult, performing so many significance tests, but i'd be interested to see how low it gets.

On a related note, do you think there is any way you can edit the opening post to include clearly labelled links to all of the data you have found? It would make it all a lot easier to find for everyone! Just a suggestion.
Reply 116
Original post by nexttime
So, the next step is to try to eliminate variation and find out which subjects differ significantly based on private/state school acceptance. Where did you get this data from? If you point to where i can find acceptance rates by subject i don't mind doing to t-tests. Its probably in this thread somewhere but there are so many data sets up now... What to take as significant will of course be difficult, performing so many significance tests, but i'd be interested to see how low it gets.
Data for that particular post is originally from here, but here are my calculations.

Original post by nexttime
On a related note, do you think there is any way you can edit the opening post to include clearly labelled links to all of the data you have found? It would make it all a lot easier to find for everyone! Just a suggestion.
I ought to do that sometime...
Reply 117
Once more, some non-exciting stats: a summary of the Norrington table statistics over all years.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Asg7Ze9sc7PfdHdFZjg4dEExa0ZGeXdyRG5NRWdQMHc

Does anyone know if anyone has looked at the stats to see if there's been "grade inflation" (over the years, more Oxford students being given firsts and upper seconds)? If not, I might sometime... [although I suspect the results would be fairly unexciting, so I might not bother anytime soon!]
Original post by fluteflute
Once more, some non-exciting stats: a summary of the Norrington table statistics over all years.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Asg7Ze9sc7PfdHdFZjg4dEExa0ZGeXdyRG5NRWdQMHc

Does anyone know if anyone has looked at the stats to see if there's been "grade inflation" (over the years, more Oxford students being given firsts and upper seconds)? If not, I might sometime... [although I suspect the results would be fairly unexciting, so I might not bother anytime soon!]


Looking at that, there does seem to be a top 6 colleges, that consistently rank in the top 6. Most other colleges fluctuate quite a bit, however these 6 are all ways around the same few spots.

Merton, Magdalen, St Johns, New, ChCh and Balliol

Although Balliol has fallen off quite drastically in recent years, and St Johns had a bad year last year.

Do you think they do have higher entry standards? Or work their undergrads harder maybe, more tutes etc.
(edited 12 years ago)
Original post by fluteflute
Once more, some non-exciting stats: a summary of the Norrington table statistics over all years.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Asg7Ze9sc7PfdHdFZjg4dEExa0ZGeXdyRG5NRWdQMHc

Does anyone know if anyone has looked at the stats to see if there's been "grade inflation" (over the years, more Oxford students being given firsts and upper seconds)? If not, I might sometime... [although I suspect the results would be fairly unexciting, so I might not bother anytime soon!]


Original post by fudgesundae
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Some slight correlation between result and college popularity then. Not as much as i expected though.

Of course, figures would be being skewed by relative prevalence of subjects within each college. It is well known that sciences get more firsts than arts.

Also, there is the correlation between college wealth and results to consider in explaining what causes some colleges to do well.
(edited 12 years ago)

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