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Is it better to go to uni in the USA because you don't drink?

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    If you dont want to drink then dont drink....
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    (Original post by Macnoob)
    Well you said "going to uni in the US is completely unfeasible finance-wise", im coming from Canada to the Uk and the living costs are outrageous compared to Canada. In the states almost everything is cheaper than it is in Canada. I have taken out a $80,000 line of credit to fund my 3 year law program in the uk. That same 80 grand would be more than enough to go to the states. (my parents are still giving me another 10-20 grand).
    You haven't really stated anything to prove me wrong that US study is out of the question financially for most British students, all you've said is that being in Britain as an international student is probably more expensive.
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    (Original post by The_resurrection)
    Come to uni in Scotland, we don't drink up here.
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    (Original post by bob247)
    I do.

    But obviously, there is also going to be a fair amount of clubbing considering students will legally be of age. Especially in London.

    This will not be as prevalent in the USA, no?

    Or have I completely misjudged the situation?
    i think you have, fake ids are not uncommon in the us and i'm pretty sure there are clubs that let in over 18s provided they don't drink (use of hand stamps wristbands etc) i don't think you would escape that culture running to the us and it's perfectly avoidable if you stay here so if that is your only reason for going you are being a little silly
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    (Original post by bob247)
    I am.
    you just have to be friends with the right crowd i guess.
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    (Original post by nmudz_009)
    You will see less people drinking alchohol in public, yes, bcoz its illegal at that age. There would be less peer pressure on you but that said im sure you'd find more muslim uni friends in the UK than the US
    It's a fair point. But I don't want to limit myself to muslim friends. I just get the feeling that americans are more accepting of people who don't drink.

    Is it generally tolerated in the UK, or are they social outcasts?
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    (Original post by Chris_23)
    If you dont want to drink then dont drink....
    Not so simple. Especially if 3/4 of the people from your accommodation all decide they want to go out and get pissed and don't want non-drinkers tagging along.
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    (Original post by bob247)
    It's a fair point. But I don't want to limit myself to muslim friends. I just get the feeling that americans are more accepting of people who don't drink.

    Is it generally tolerated in the UK, or are they social outcasts?
    Well...I suppose there's more things to do in the US instead of getting drunk at bars or whatever, and since the legal age is higher, drinking out wud be seen as less "standard". However this is a generalising view of both countries, so there'll be people who dont drink as much and understand that you can have a good time without getting drunk and people totally opposite in both. Ultimately, uni is about defining yourself as you choose so dont feel pressured to be a drunk drone. I think people would respect you stayed true to ur principles.
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    (Original post by bob247)
    It's a fair point. But I don't want to limit myself to muslim friends. I just get the feeling that americans are more accepting of people who don't drink.

    Is it generally tolerated in the UK, or are they social outcasts?
    Also, in the UK, everyones beliefs are respected so no one would be an outcast if they didnt drink bcoz of religion theres other ways to interact. Infact the US myt even be less tolerant bcoz of less contact with Muslim students
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    (Original post by bbq1948)
    lol at you thinking americans don't drink at college
    This
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    (Original post by bob247)
    Before the nit pickers pounce on me, no, this will not be the sole factor in the final decision of my academic future.

    I was just wondering though, as an 18 year who doesn't drink alcohol, would it make more sense to go to university in the US, as you can't go clubbing there until you turn 21? This is assuming finance etc. isn't a problem.

    I know they tend to have more house parties in the USA and I prefer those tbh. It's easier to resist temptation, laugh at the drunk people, and have a nice, relaxed conversation with those who are merely tipsy.

    I know I will find people who don't drink at Uni in the Uk, but it limits options though. I've been overseas with friends and gone on pub crawls and bars and clubs with them and after a few days it just got boring. I felt more and more like an outsider and they just got increasingly irritated at my "anti-social" behaviour and it ruined their fun by me not drinking apparently.

    I imagine this will be more of a problem, especially if I end up going to London? Reading through threads, people from London unis just seem to be jostling with each other, trying to get the closest accomodation to the clubs as possible. I'm just worried of feeling left out.
    Move to the US for the drinking age? Are you sane?

    My answer, in a word: No.
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    Okay well I'm an American and attended university in the US for two years. Regardless of the drinking age, people drink. A lot. There are plenty of outrageous house parties that get wildly out of control, more mellow house parties, people go out drinking/clubbing/bar hopping with fake IDs all the time, etc. Honestly, most of my high school friends who are now in university have fake IDs to get into bars, clubs, etc. So don't go to the United States assuming that the drinking culture will be vastly different. It won't be. In your first post you said "...with those who are merely tipsy. " Drinking in the US =/= merely tipsy.

    In both countries you can find the parties if you want them and avoid them if you don't want them. You don't have to drink and regardless of which country you're in, you'll be able to find a group of people that aren't huge pub crawlers.

    I know you said it won't be the sole factor, but honestly it shouldn't factor in at all. I wouldn't say that drinking is a part of British culture more than American culture. I'd say that drinking is a part of university/late teen early 20s culture on a worldwide scale. No matter which country you're in, you'll be surrounded by loads of people who want to party and go clubbing. I know it sucks to be in the minority and not want to drink, but it's up to you to work extra hard to find those other people who are like you. They're out there, just a little harder to find, regardless of which country you're in.
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    (Original post by tripsis)
    Okay well I'm an American and attended university in the US for two years. Regardless of the drinking age, people drink. A lot. There are plenty of outrageous house parties that get wildly out of control, more mellow house parties, people go out drinking/clubbing/bar hopping with fake IDs all the time, etc. Honestly, most of my high school friends who are now in university have fake IDs to get into bars, clubs, etc. So don't go to the United States assuming that the drinking culture will be vastly different. It won't be. In your first post you said "...with those who are merely tipsy. " Drinking in the US =/= merely tipsy.

    In both countries you can find the parties if you want them and avoid them if you don't want them. You don't have to drink and regardless of which country you're in, you'll be able to find a group of people that aren't huge pub crawlers.

    I know you said it won't be the sole factor, but honestly it shouldn't factor in at all. I wouldn't say that drinking is a part of British culture more than American culture. I'd say that drinking is a part of university/late teen early 20s culture on a worldwide scale. No matter which country you're in, you'll be surrounded by loads of people who want to party and go clubbing. I know it sucks to be in the minority and not want to drink, but it's up to you to work extra hard to find those other people who are like you. They're out there, just a little harder to find, regardless of which country you're in.
    Thank you, it's much appreciated.
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    In the UK, most universities have an option of quiet halls for the people that are going to university just to study rather than go out clubbing/drinking/being loud etc. If you applied for one of those halls then you would be in with a lot of people like yourself.
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    it seems a bit silly to base your education plan on your drinking habits
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    (Original post by bob247)
    Before the nit pickers pounce on me, no, this will not be the sole factor in the final decision of my academic future.

    I was just wondering though, as an 18 year who doesn't drink alcohol, would it make more sense to go to university in the US, as you can't go clubbing there until you turn 21? This is assuming finance etc. isn't a problem.

    I know they tend to have more house parties in the USA and I prefer those tbh. It's easier to resist temptation, laugh at the drunk people, and have a nice, relaxed conversation with those who are merely tipsy.

    I know I will find people who don't drink at Uni in the Uk, but it limits options though. I've been overseas with friends and gone on pub crawls and bars and clubs with them and after a few days it just got boring. I felt more and more like an outsider and they just got increasingly irritated at my "anti-social" behaviour and it ruined their fun by me not drinking apparently.

    I imagine this will be more of a problem, especially if I end up going to London? Reading through threads, people from London unis just seem to be jostling with each other, trying to get the closest accomodation to the clubs as possible. I'm just worried of feeling left out.
    I'm sorry but there will always be people that will go drink regardless if you're in the UK or US.

    From what I see...I don't think you should put what you've just said as the primary reason for going to university in the US. There are many options as to where you want to meet people and that doesn't limit you from joining associations and university clubs where you could also meet others.

    Therefore, my answer would be no. It doesn't matter where you go...it's what you want to do.
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    (Original post by tripsis)
    Okay well I'm an American and attended university in the US for two years. Regardless of the drinking age, people drink. A lot. There are plenty of outrageous house parties that get wildly out of control, more mellow house parties, people go out drinking/clubbing/bar hopping with fake IDs all the time, etc. Honestly, most of my high school friends who are now in university have fake IDs to get into bars, clubs, etc. So don't go to the United States assuming that the drinking culture will be vastly different. It won't be. In your first post you said "...with those who are merely tipsy. " Drinking in the US =/= merely tipsy.

    In both countries you can find the parties if you want them and avoid them if you don't want them. You don't have to drink and regardless of which country you're in, you'll be able to find a group of people that aren't huge pub crawlers.

    I know you said it won't be the sole factor, but honestly it shouldn't factor in at all. I wouldn't say that drinking is a part of British culture more than American culture. I'd say that drinking is a part of university/late teen early 20s culture on a worldwide scale. No matter which country you're in, you'll be surrounded by loads of people who want to party and go clubbing. I know it sucks to be in the minority and not want to drink, but it's up to you to work extra hard to find those other people who are like you. They're out there, just a little harder to find, regardless of which country you're in.
    What most americans won't understand is that, if you're not drinking then forget about socialising with 90% of people in the uni. becuase the drinking age is younger you get more people who regularly drink and by regularly drink I mean piss drunk, puking in gutters, that sort of thing. where as in america, drinking isn't considered the norm, don't get me wrong here but no one is naive enough to think americans dont drink but people who want to get drunk do and others who want to socialise can in one place, where as if you are the only one not drinking you become a sort of care taker when your friends are drunk.
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    (Original post by Gutterville)
    What most americans won't understand is that, if you're not drinking then forget about socialising with 90% of people in the uni. becuase the drinking age is younger you get more people who regularly drink and by regularly drink I mean piss drunk, puking in gutters, that sort of thing. where as in america, drinking isn't considered the norm, don't get me wrong here but no one is naive enough to think americans dont drink but people who want to get drunk do and others who want to socialise can in one place, where as if you are the only one not drinking you become a sort of care taker when your friends are drunk.
    I lol at some of the assumptions of drinking here in the States. I need to address the part I bolded.

    1) "If you're not drinking then forget about socializing with 90% of people in the uni."
    I'd say that's a pretty fair assessment of most schools in the US, too. I go to university in the US. The overwhelming majority of people drink. Like, almost everyone. I can probably count on one hand the number of people I know that don't drink at university. Even the kids that didn't drink at first, drink now.

    2) "Whereas in America drinking isn't considered the norm."
    Hahahahahahaha. Drinking is by far the norm in just about every university in this country. As I said before, the vast majority of kids drink. And not just tipsy as some of you in this thread seem to think. I'm talking full-on, puking, black-out drunk.

    Also, even the small minority of kids that don't drink, still go to parties. Otherwise, they would just be sitting in their rooms by themselves all night.

    And yes, American kids do go clubbing. 18+ clubs are common (once you're in you can just get someone who is 21 to buy you alcohol) and fake id's are also common.

    In summary, drinking is a huge part of American university life. OP, don't come here just because of the drinking age.
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    +1 to everything Baltimoron said. The drinking age is completely irrelevant in the US. Yes the drinking age might be higher, but that doesn't stop anyone from drinking. People were puking in my dorm halls last year, going to the emergency room, etc. Drinking is probably just as much the norm in the US as it is in the UK.
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    Have you heard of secret societies, sororities and frats? The U.S educational system (in the south) is riddled with them and they throw large elaborate parties where getting tanked is the main purpose…well getting laid is but to get to that wonderful outcome you must drink first.

    University culture in the U.S and Canada is based on a drinking culture. Many of the U.S universities are known party/hook-up locations. Like any campus you have to ask people and ask what it’s really like. I’d say stay in the U.K it’s cheaper and less of a hassle.

    Like house parties? Throw one.

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