[AstroZombie1]

[ElixirOfLife.]

(Original post by blueray)
Anyone here play crossfire?
http://crossfire.z8games.com/

Yeah I do

[LtCommanderData]

Has anyone played Max Payne 3 yet? Any good? I only know one person who has it, and he said the ratio of cut-scene time to action time is 5:1... it seems like he must be exaggerating, but is it really like this? Can't you skip the cutscenes?

[wessle]

I'm really enjoying it, it's a fantastic port. What your friend is a bit of an exaggeration, but the cutscenes are really great in my opinion.

[thetobbit]

Add me if you want i'm easy lol

ID: thetobbit

Games: lots lol

- Orange Box (Half life 2/episode 1/episode 2, Portal, TF2)
- Cod MW2
- Company of Heroes
- Portal 2
- Day of Defeat Source
- Half life 2 deathmatch
- Sacrifice (play this is want to be amazed)
- Counter Strike Source
- F.E.A.R 2
- Garrys Mod
- Hl2 Lost Coast
- Half-life 1
- Half life 1 blue shift
- half life 1 opposing force
- Left 4 dead
- Left 4 dead 2
- Team Fortress Classic
- Unreal Tournament 3




Yes, I'm a Valve fanboy

[thetobbit]

(Original post by Tzarchasm)
I'm in a shameful predicament. I've just recently built my dream computer and don't take me wrong, I'm incredibly happy with my purchase. What's awful is that I'm not enjoying my time gaming. So far, I've got Rome: Total War (Gold), Tropico 4 (and Modern Times), WoW (without Cata/WotLK), Evochron Mercenary and Dead Space 2. I used to be a massive, massive PC gamer in the past. I'd spend all my free time playing games and enjoying every second of it and the games I'm playing now are without a doubt brilliant games, I'm just not connecting with them.

I'd really appreciate it if someone can suggest a game they genuinely enjoy. I have a lot of time to kill at the moment (gap year) and would love to game as much as possible before uni.

Well Rome Total War is an awesome game if you like that kind of stuff

However,

Half-Life series (anything by valve tbh)
Elder scrolls series
Sacrifice (still as amazing as it every was, you can get on steam for 5.99 i think)

[Intriguing Alias]

(Original post by Tzarchasm)
I'm in a shameful predicament. I've just recently built my dream computer and don't take me wrong, I'm incredibly happy with my purchase. What's awful is that I'm not enjoying my time gaming. So far, I've got Rome: Total War (Gold), Tropico 4 (and Modern Times), WoW (without Cata/WotLK), Evochron Mercenary and Dead Space 2. I used to be a massive, massive PC gamer in the past. I'd spend all my free time playing games and enjoying every second of it and the games I'm playing now are without a doubt brilliant games, I'm just not connecting with them.

I'd really appreciate it if someone can suggest a game they genuinely enjoy. I have a lot of time to kill at the moment (gap year) and would love to game as much as possible before uni.

Skyrim is a game that genuinely sucks you in so that's a good choice, I think. Minecraft and Magicka if you have some friends to play with. Saints Row The Third turned out to be lots of fun and doesn't require a lot of effort to play.

I know what you mean though, and I think it's a case of growing up more than anything. You don't get 'hooked' on games as much as you used to

Wow just realised this post was 2 months old


The PC Gaming Society isn't very active, is it

[Dalimyr]

(Original post by hassi94)
Wow just realised this post was 2 months old


The PC Gaming Society isn't very active, is it

It has its moments...but yeah, brief flurries of activity then weeks of inactivity isn't good for the longevity of the thread

[Intriguing Alias]

(Original post by Dalimyr)
It has its moments...but yeah, brief flurries of activity then weeks of inactivity isn't good for the longevity of the thread

Hmm, do you think a plain old 'Gaming Society' thread would be of any use? I think there are a lot of times where people want to discuss things going on in the gaming world that aren't really worthy of their own thread, so it could be pretty active?

[Dalimyr]

Heh, I bought Retro Gamer Collection to read on the bus to work today. In it, there was an interview with Julian Gollop. One part of it that caught my eye was

At one point, they [Games Workshop] did want me to do a game based on their Judge Dredd board game. I wanted to do a strategy game where you controlled a squad of judges and sent them to crimes, with a tactical combat sequence where you dealt with the perps, but they didn't like it, and opted for some sideways-scrolling platform game with Judge Dredd on his bike, which was awful

This was circa 1985. A few years later Julian made Laser Squad, and a few years after that he made the first X-COM game. Oh, what an opportunity Games Workshop missed out on there Enemy Unknown is a truly amazing game, and one that I still play today, nearly 20 years after it came out.

(Original post by hassi94)
Hmm, do you think a plain old 'Gaming Society' thread would be of any use? I think there are a lot of times where people want to discuss things going on in the gaming world that aren't really worthy of their own thread, so it could be pretty active?

Er, to be honest I think it may be slightly superfluous and redundant, personally. While certainly I know that some forums have a "Questions that don't deserve their own thread" sort of thread which can be very active, I'm not entirely convinced it's something that'd be beneficial in here. To me, a good thread with staying power will be something that covers a subject that's not too niche that only one or two people even know about it (so it just ends up being a chat between them until they get bored and the thread dies), but also isn't so broad that nobody reading it has anything in common with each other (so conversation doesn't really build up in the first place). "PC Gaming" sort of skirts on the edge of being on the broad side which is why this thread struggles the way it does, and I think your suggestion is probably heading even further into that territory. That's just my personal opinion, though.

[Radar616]

Looking forward to starting to game again. My final year at uni involved so much work that I had no time to use my PC.

[LtCommanderData]

(Original post by Dalimyr)
Heh, I bought Retro Gamer Collection to read on the bus to work today. In it, there was an interview with Julian Gollop. One part of it that caught my eye was
This was circa 1985. A few years later Julian made Laser Squad, and a few years after that he made the first X-COM game. Oh, what an opportunity Games Workshop missed out on there Enemy Unknown is a truly amazing game, and one that I still play today, nearly 20 years after it came out.

Wow, what could have been...

Dredd could have done with the publicity of a really good game, too. He's such an underappreciated legend of comics!

[badgerkins]

(Original post by LtCommanderData)
Has anyone played Max Payne 3 yet? Any good? I only know one person who has it, and he said the ratio of cut-scene time to action time is 5:1... it seems like he must be exaggerating, but is it really like this? Can't you skip the cutscenes?

Hmm 5:1? I wouldn't say that much but there is definitely alot and whilst I am a fan of the Max Payne games, 3 is very different. If you played Uncharted, where theres alot of cutscenes that smoothly transition into gameplay then that sums it up pretty well. Still a really great game but I wish they kept the neo-noir theme with comic book cutscenes. And I think you can skip them, yes.

[LtCommanderData]

I think I'm going to get MP3 some time this summer if I see it for a reasonable price, thanks for the opinions.

What do you guys think of this?

(Original post by JohnnySPal)
lol @ http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...87-percent-off

Also the article where he originally said that it "cheapens intellectual property"?

I don't really know what he's on about. I mean, if a company is always selling their games for £5, you're going to think of them as a 'cheap games' company. But if a AAA game which has been out for a year or more spends a week on sale for 75% off, people will buy it but surely their views of the brand of the game itself won't change? Maybe your opinion of Steam will be "oh, that's a cheap place to get games" - but not cheap as in poor service. I mean, at the end of the day, a digital copy from one should be more or less identical to a digital copy from another. When he says "we're not trying to be Target [evidently a cheap shop in the US], we're trying to be Nordstrom [presumably a more expensive shop with less rude staff or something]" I think he's being a bit silly. If we're buying the exact same items from each place, then one isn't inherently better quality because it's more expensive. If John Lewis and Poundland are selling the same product at vastly different prices, I'd rather get it from Poundland - and Steam is much more pleasant than Poundland (I'm not dissing Poundland, greatest of shops, btw).

[Intriguing Alias]

(Original post by LtCommanderData)
I think I'm going to get MP3 some time this summer if I see it for a reasonable price, thanks for the opinions.

What do you guys think of this?





Also the article where he originally said that it "cheapens intellectual property"?

I don't really know what he's on about. I mean, if a company is always selling their games for £5, you're going to think of them as a 'cheap games' company. But if a AAA game which has been out for a year or more spends a week on sale for 75% off, people will buy it but surely their views of the brand of the game itself won't change? Maybe your opinion of Steam will be "oh, that's a cheap place to get games" - but not cheap as in poor service. I mean, at the end of the day, a digital copy from one should be more or less identical to a digital copy from another. When he says "we're not trying to be Target [evidently a cheap shop in the US], we're trying to be Nordstrom [presumably a more expensive shop with less rude staff or something]" I think he's being a bit silly. If we're buying the exact same items from each place, then one isn't inherently better quality because it's more expensive. If John Lewis and Poundland are selling the same product at vastly different prices, I'd rather get it from Poundland - and Steam is much more pleasant than Poundland (I'm not dissing Poundland, greatest of shops, btw).

Yeah I disagree with his whole logic there. I buy games almost exclusively on sale nowadays and I don't see how that 'cheapens' the ip or even Steam itself. I actually love Steam - for their prices, and their service. If they suddenly got in a situation where they couldn't afford to sell games at such great prices so they were in very close competition to everywhere else's prices I'd still buy from Steam because of the loyalty they've earned.

When I first signed up to Steam there was a sale for an Indie Bundle it was £4 for the lot. I, not being too familiar with steam; nor paying much attention, accidentally went and clicked on one of games that was in the bundle (VVVVV) and bought it for £4 individually. So I sent a customer support message to Steam, explained my situation (and noting that the deal was due to end in 2 hours) and they refunded me within 20 minutes. Just brilliant service and brilliant prices from a fantastic company!

Damn I sound like I work for Valve but I just love them.

Origin on the other hand


Oh, and what I originally came here to say: Playing Team Fortress 2 more and realising how great it is - yet another reason to place Valve on a pedestal.

[Dalimyr]

(Original post by LtCommanderData)
Also the article where he originally said that it "cheapens intellectual property"?

I don't really know what he's on about. I mean, if a company is always selling their games for £5, you're going to think of them as a 'cheap games' company. But if a AAA game which has been out for a year or more spends a week on sale for 75% off, people will buy it but surely their views of the brand of the game itself won't change? Maybe your opinion of Steam will be "oh, that's a cheap place to get games" - but not cheap as in poor service. I mean, at the end of the day, a digital copy from one should be more or less identical to a digital copy from another. When he says "we're not trying to be Target [evidently a cheap shop in the US], we're trying to be Nordstrom [presumably a more expensive shop with less rude staff or something]" I think he's being a bit silly. If we're buying the exact same items from each place, then one isn't inherently better quality because it's more expensive. If John Lewis and Poundland are selling the same product at vastly different prices, I'd rather get it from Poundland - and Steam is much more pleasant than Poundland (I'm not dissing Poundland, greatest of shops, btw).

This is a representative of EA you're talking about. They're such notoriously money-grabbing bastards that Money (That's What I Want) is practically their theme song
As for the difference between Target and Nordstrom, think of it like Tesco/Asda (Target) and Harvey Nichols/Harrods (Nordstrom). As you said, the comparison is very poor as the products (and quality thereof) doesn't change, just the price, and if Steam are prepared to sell for less then who's going to get more sales and therefore more money? Let's face it, if Steam reduce something from £20 to £5, I'm far more likely to buy it, and while they might not be maximising their profit for each individual sale, if they're getting 4 people to buy at the sale price for every 1 who'd buy at the full price, they're not losing any money. After all, many of the people buying it in the sale probably wouldn't be interested at all in buying it at the £20 mark (otherwise they surely would have already bought it), but with the drop to £5 it's priced so low that even if they don't like it, it's not that big a deal.

[udot99]

Minesweeper has the best graphics

[LtCommanderData]

(Original post by hassi94)
Yeah I disagree with his whole logic there. I buy games almost exclusively on sale nowadays and I don't see how that 'cheapens' the ip or even Steam itself. I actually love Steam - for their prices, and their service. If they suddenly got in a situation where they couldn't afford to sell games at such great prices so they were in very close competition to everywhere else's prices I'd still buy from Steam because of the loyalty they've earned.

When I first signed up to Steam there was a sale for an Indie Bundle it was £4 for the lot. I, not being too familiar with steam; nor paying much attention, accidentally went and clicked on one of games that was in the bundle (VVVVV) and bought it for £4 individually. So I sent a customer support message to Steam, explained my situation (and noting that the deal was due to end in 2 hours) and they refunded me within 20 minutes. Just brilliant service and brilliant prices from a fantastic company!

Damn I sound like I work for Valve but I just love them.

Origin on the other hand


Oh, and what I originally came here to say: Playing Team Fortress 2 more and realising how great it is - yet another reason to place Valve on a pedestal.

That's cool - the refund policy is interesting, actually. Officially, they don't give refunds. However, I know someone who bought a game once a couple of years ago (when the download speeds were worse), and a couple of days later it wasn't nearly finished downloading. He ordered a physical copy off amazon and sent Steam an annoyed email, and they said something like "We officially don't give refunds, but all right we'll give you a refund". Then, when I first bought the first L4D, I bought it on a Thursday... and the very next day it was the weekend deal. I basically sent them an email asking if I could be refunded the difference, and they refunded me the cost I paid and let me re-buy it at the lower price! I wonder if they have an internal 'every account gets one refund ever' policy or if they just really don't want to piss anyone off who might get them bad press.

(Original post by Dalimyr)
This is a representative of EA you're talking about. They're such notoriously money-grabbing bastards that Money (That's What I Want) is practically their theme song
As for the difference between Target and Nordstrom, think of it like Tesco/Asda (Target) and Harvey Nichols/Harrods (Nordstrom). As you said, the comparison is very poor as the products (and quality thereof) doesn't change, just the price, and if Steam are prepared to sell for less then who's going to get more sales and therefore more money? Let's face it, if Steam reduce something from £20 to £5, I'm far more likely to buy it, and while they might not be maximising their profit for each individual sale, if they're getting 4 people to buy at the sale price for every 1 who'd buy at the full price, they're not losing any money. After all, many of the people buying it in the sale probably wouldn't be interested at all in buying it at the £20 mark (otherwise they surely would have already bought it), but with the drop to £5 it's priced so low that even if they don't like it, it's not that big a deal.

Exactly - and if they're selling at a quarter of the price and making four times as many sales, they're making the same amount of money and more likely to be making fans who will spread word-of-mouth about the game, and when the developer is pitching the sequel they'll have more impressive numbers to back them up. Ah well, it's EA's loss!

(Original post by udot99)
Minesweeper has the best graphics

Are you taking the piss? It's all about Angband!

[thetobbit]

(Original post by LtCommanderData)
That's cool - the refund policy is interesting, actually. Officially, they don't give refunds. However, I know someone who bought a game once a couple of years ago (when the download speeds were worse), and a couple of days later it wasn't nearly finished downloading. He ordered a physical copy off amazon and sent Steam an annoyed email, and they said something like "We officially don't give refunds, but all right we'll give you a refund". Then, when I first bought the first L4D, I bought it on a Thursday... and the very next day it was the weekend deal. I basically sent them an email asking if I could be refunded the difference, and they refunded me the cost I paid and let me re-buy it at the lower price! I wonder if they have an internal 'every account gets one refund ever' policy or if they just really don't want to piss anyone off who might get them bad press.




Exactly - and if they're selling at a quarter of the price and making four times as many sales, they're making the same amount of money and more likely to be making fans who will spread word-of-mouth about the game, and when the developer is pitching the sequel they'll have more impressive numbers to back them up. Ah well, it's EA's loss!


Are you taking the piss? It's all about Angband!

Lol you asked for far too much. It's tough luck if a game goes on sale the next day, you should just wait until a game goes on sale.

Lol I still can't believe they gave you a refund, oh Valve you so great

[thetobbit]

(Original post by hassi94)
Yeah I disagree with his whole logic there. I buy games almost exclusively on sale nowadays and I don't see how that 'cheapens' the ip or even Steam itself. I actually love Steam - for their prices, and their service. If they suddenly got in a situation where they couldn't afford to sell games at such great prices so they were in very close competition to everywhere else's prices I'd still buy from Steam because of the loyalty they've earned.

When I first signed up to Steam there was a sale for an Indie Bundle it was £4 for the lot. I, not being too familiar with steam; nor paying much attention, accidentally went and clicked on one of games that was in the bundle (VVVVV) and bought it for £4 individually. So I sent a customer support message to Steam, explained my situation (and noting that the deal was due to end in 2 hours) and they refunded me within 20 minutes. Just brilliant service and brilliant prices from a fantastic company!

Damn I sound like I work for Valve but I just love them.

Origin on the other hand


Oh, and what I originally came here to say: Playing Team Fortress 2 more and realising how great it is - yet another reason to place Valve on a pedestal.

Yeh I know the amount of free content Valve have poured into TF2 is astounding tbh. I've clocked easily 400/500 hours on tf2 mainly because of the every updating weaponry (Spy mainly)